Toa of Gallifrey Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 I was reading Tales of the Masks and I came across a couple things that puzzled me: 1-When the Turaga are discussing their secrets, Matoro is there as Nuju's translator. Is he aware of Metru Nui? Or just knows they have secrets and doesn't try to find out any more? 2-Macku refers to Hahli as her Kohlii partner, but this takes place before Nokama appoints Hahli over Kotu, right? 3-This one's a bit more nitpicky, but in the Turaga's stories they mention some things they can't know like the Toa's thoughts and the details of Hahli's arrival and what Macku was doing when she arrived, even if the theory that Matau and Onewa were spying on the Toa while using their Huna is true. Are the stories as we read them narrated by a normal omniscient narrator while they just tell each other adaptions in-universe? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Smith Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 To the best of my knowledge:1. He was the one Matoran whom the Turaga told of Metru Nui.2. Yes. I guess that's a slip-up on Greg's part.3. That's the idea I've always gotten, that the stories presented to us aren't actually being narrated by the Turaga. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toa of Gallifrey Posted September 28, 2014 Author Share Posted September 28, 2014 Alright, thanks! That's really cool about Matoro. I suppose Macku's line is just non-canon due to it being an error. Thanks again! Thread can now be closed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N.S.M.8 Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 Alright, thanks! That's really cool about Matoro. I suppose Macku's line is just non-canon due to it being an error. Thanks again! Thread can now be closed.Turaga Nokama was telling this story after Hahli was appointed, and that line is in the narration. Maybe she was just making it easier for the other Turaga. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishers64 Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 For Macku/Hahli, I'm pretty sure the storytelling takes place right before Mask of Light, given how the Turaga run into Jaller at the end. The stories the Turaga tell take place during the events of Makuta's Revenge, but the storytelling itself takes place between Makuta's Revenge and Mask of Light, concurrent with the events of MNOG 2. 1 Quote Hero Factory RPG | Bionicle Mafia XXIX: Storyline & Theories Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katuko Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 (edited) I'm certain that if there was a super-secret meeting where Nuju couldn't afford to have Matoro present, he'd just speak normal Matoran. Otherwise Matoro could possibly know about Metru Nui, the Bohrok, and of Makuta's true form, the Kraata cave in Po-Wahi, and a whole slew of other things. For what it's worth, Nuju speaks Matoran/English when he first meets Kopaka in the comics, despite Matoro being right there. In another comic I believe we see him alone with the rest of the Turaga, though I can't remember if he speaks there. Edited September 29, 2014 by Katuko Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xeo Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 1. Yes, Matoro knew. That was why he felt so guilty. He was also the one Matoran who knew Mata Nui was dying.2. It could be an error. It could also be Makuta mentioning something he glimpsed from the future perhaps?3. I see it as what they imagine what happened. It is like telling stories around a camp fire or other traditional setting. You may not know what the character in your story said or thought, but you know the outcome, and you very well heard their own personal account as well. Quote ~Xeo~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Friend of Fire Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 For the Matoro knowing, read Legends 1: Island of Doom. When Jaller found Matoro in Ko-Metru, he knew something was up. And from the look in Matoro's eyes, a secret he wasn't suppose to share. Now, I know this is in relation to Mata Nui dying, but in order for Jaller to recognize a look in Matoro's eyes as he was keeping a secret means that Jaller knew that Matoro's roll meant he had to keep secrets and that his character, i.e. who he is, meant that Matoro couldn't tell anyone anything. So yeah, I say Matoro knew about Metru Nui, why else would he have been Nuju's personal aid if he didn't and kept it a secret. As for the narration, I'm going with oversight. It's a common thing that happens in "published" storytelling. By that, I mean, when someone else is writing a story that a character is suppose to be telling. It happens a lot in books, TV (great example would be How I Met Your Mother), and sometimes in movies. Just take it with a pinch a salt as to whether or not you believe it's canonical or not. Quote FoF Credit to ~the Big X~ for avatar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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