Doctor Makuta Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 The colors issue is always ridiculous anyway because basically any Toa can be any color for reasons. Heck, that was a canonization squibble of its own back in the day, when people kept getting Greg to approve their own headcanon color schemes for various Matoran (we'll ignore that I may or may not have done that for Ba-Matoran :U). I think the LMB has seen its share of that, too. That said... I've only ever seen dark grey on Ko-Matoran, and not black, so I'm not sure where people ARE getting black from as Ice's secondary color.http://biosector01.com/wiki/images/f/f8/Talvi_Metru.PNG What about this one? Or is that dark grey? Quote Tahu; Hau (x) Pakari (x) Kakama (x) Miru (x) Akaku (x) Kaukau (x). Lewa; Hau (x) Pakari (x) Kakama (x) Miru (x) Akaku (x) Kaukau (x). Onua; Hau (x) Pakari (x) Kakama (x) Miru (x) Akaku (x) Kaukau (x). Kopaka; Hau (x) Pakari (x) Kakama (x) Miru (x) Akaku (x) Kaukau (x). Pohatu; Hau (x) Pakari (x) Kakama (x) Miru (x) Akaku (x) Kaukau (x). Gali; Hau (x) Pakari (x) Kakama (x) Miru (x) Akaku (x) Kaukau (x). Vakama; Huna (x) Ruru (x) Komau (x) Mahiki (x) Matatu (x) Rau (x). Matau; Huna (x) Ruru (x) Komau (x) Mahiki (x) Matatu (x) Rau (x). Whenua; Huna (x) Ruru (x) Komau (x) Mahiki (x) Matatu (x) Rau (x). Nuju; Huna (x) Ruru (x) Komau (x) Mahiki (x) Matatu (x) Rau (x). Onewa; Huna (x) Ruru (x) Komau (x) Mahiki (x) Matatu (x) Rau (x). Nokama; Huna (x) Ruru (x) Komau (x) Mahiki (x) Matatu (x) Rau (x). Matoran; Hau (x) Pakari (x) Kakama (x) Miru (x) Akaku (x) Huna (x) Rahi; Infected Hau (x) Huna (x) Kakama (x) Komau (x) Pakari (x) Ruru ()Promotional Kanohi - Vahi (x) Chrome Hau (x) Ruru (x) TNGM (x) Copper Huna (x) Copper Komau () An (x) means I have, a () means I dont. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boidoh Posted December 15, 2014 Author Share Posted December 15, 2014 Looks like someone painted that thing. Quote Add me on 3DS: 0516-7750-0068Add me on Wii U: Boidoh "I am Lloyd Garmadon, son of Lord Garmadon." - Lloyd, Episode 4: Never Trust a Snake"I am Lloyd Garmadon, son of Lord Garmadon." - Lloyd, Episode 44: Corridor of EldersLike, Comment, And Subscribe for Nintendo Content - NinBoidoh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Collector1 Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 The colors issue is always ridiculous anyway because basically any Toa can be any color for reasons. Heck, that was a canonization squibble of its own back in the day, when people kept getting Greg to approve their own headcanon color schemes for various Matoran (we'll ignore that I may or may not have done that for Ba-Matoran :U). I think the LMB has seen its share of that, too. That said... I've only ever seen dark grey on Ko-Matoran, and not black, so I'm not sure where people ARE getting black from as Ice's secondary color.http://biosector01.com/wiki/images/f/f8/Talvi_Metru.PNG What about this one? Or is that dark grey? It looks dark gray to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMSOG Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 (edited) The colors issue is always ridiculous anyway because basically any Toa can be any color for reasons. Heck, that was a canonization squibble of its own back in the day, when people kept getting Greg to approve their own headcanon color schemes for various Matoran (we'll ignore that I may or may not have done that for Ba-Matoran :U). I think the LMB has seen its share of that, too. That said... I've only ever seen dark grey on Ko-Matoran, and not black, so I'm not sure where people ARE getting black from as Ice's secondary color.http://biosector01.com/wiki/images/f/f8/Talvi_Metru.PNG What about this one? Or is that dark grey? Comparing it as apple-to-apples as I can (with an onu matoran from those same promo cds), that is indeed dark grey. Despite the fact that only one kadin has ever been in a set, i doubt that anyone will bat an eye at a slightly off mask color if it's used in a MOC. Edited December 15, 2014 by JMSOG 1 Quote Hi. If you remember me from when I was most active on BZP, from 2009-2011... I know I was cringy. But please keep in mind I was literally 12. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boidoh Posted December 15, 2014 Author Share Posted December 15, 2014 Who ever said before that they could grab a bunch of friends from another site to vote, you may do so now.... Quote Add me on 3DS: 0516-7750-0068Add me on Wii U: Boidoh "I am Lloyd Garmadon, son of Lord Garmadon." - Lloyd, Episode 4: Never Trust a Snake"I am Lloyd Garmadon, son of Lord Garmadon." - Lloyd, Episode 44: Corridor of EldersLike, Comment, And Subscribe for Nintendo Content - NinBoidoh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toa kopaka4372 Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 I voted for the Kadin. I think it'd be nice for a Toa of Ice to have one. Quote Credit goes to Linus Van Pelt (Formerly known as Cherixon) and Spectral Avohkii EnterprisesMy Memoirs of the Dead entry, Reflectons:http://www.bzpower.com/board/index.php?showtopic=7351 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boidoh Posted December 17, 2014 Author Share Posted December 17, 2014 It seems as if BIONICLE 2015 info has taken a toll on the poll. 2 Quote Add me on 3DS: 0516-7750-0068Add me on Wii U: Boidoh "I am Lloyd Garmadon, son of Lord Garmadon." - Lloyd, Episode 4: Never Trust a Snake"I am Lloyd Garmadon, son of Lord Garmadon." - Lloyd, Episode 44: Corridor of EldersLike, Comment, And Subscribe for Nintendo Content - NinBoidoh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boidoh Posted December 21, 2014 Author Share Posted December 21, 2014 Well.... It seems like it has been a week. Kaukau wins. Quote Add me on 3DS: 0516-7750-0068Add me on Wii U: Boidoh "I am Lloyd Garmadon, son of Lord Garmadon." - Lloyd, Episode 4: Never Trust a Snake"I am Lloyd Garmadon, son of Lord Garmadon." - Lloyd, Episode 44: Corridor of EldersLike, Comment, And Subscribe for Nintendo Content - NinBoidoh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regitnui Posted December 21, 2014 Share Posted December 21, 2014 I don't get it, but I won't argue (much). Kaukau always seemed to be an out-of-combat mask to me. Did the MoCers win this vote? Quote Elemental Rahi in Gen2, anyone? A write-up for an initial video for a G2 plot I really wish everyone would stop trying to play join the dots with Gen 1 and Gen 2 though,it seems there's a couple new threads everyday and often they're duplicates of already existing conversations! Or simply parallel them with a slightly new 'twist'! Gen 2 is NEW, it is NOT Gen 1 and it is NOT a continuation. Outside of the characters we already have I personally don't want to see ANY old characters return. I think it will cheapen the whole experience to those of us familiar with the original line... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jam Pot Studios Posted December 21, 2014 Share Posted December 21, 2014 So hang on - we're able to canonise material now? Does Greg approve all of these after the votes have been held and say which can become canon? I voted Kaukau for the same reason as Boidoh's original post. Quote Blog|YouTube|Flickr Making brickfilms since 2007. Check out my latest animations: , , and Avengers Tower! The first episode of Nuva, Magnetic Mania, is now live! Check it out! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boidoh Posted December 22, 2014 Author Share Posted December 22, 2014 So hang on - we're able to canonise material now? Does Greg approve all of these after the votes have been held and say which can become canon? I voted Kaukau for the same reason as Boidoh's original post.We can only hold polls with Greg's permission. He's given us permission to do a mask poll for every member of the Toa Manga. Yes, he does have to approve all of this. He's the only one who can canonize stuff these days. We hold the polls, he gives a word of approval. 1 Quote Add me on 3DS: 0516-7750-0068Add me on Wii U: Boidoh "I am Lloyd Garmadon, son of Lord Garmadon." - Lloyd, Episode 4: Never Trust a Snake"I am Lloyd Garmadon, son of Lord Garmadon." - Lloyd, Episode 44: Corridor of EldersLike, Comment, And Subscribe for Nintendo Content - NinBoidoh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tuuli Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 Why try to "approve" canon I'm sure Greg does not like making things "canonized" especially since bionicle is coming back -.- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boidoh Posted December 22, 2014 Author Share Posted December 22, 2014 He made the suggestion... 1 Quote Add me on 3DS: 0516-7750-0068Add me on Wii U: Boidoh "I am Lloyd Garmadon, son of Lord Garmadon." - Lloyd, Episode 4: Never Trust a Snake"I am Lloyd Garmadon, son of Lord Garmadon." - Lloyd, Episode 44: Corridor of EldersLike, Comment, And Subscribe for Nintendo Content - NinBoidoh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irrie Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 Why try to "approve" canon I'm sure Greg does not like making things "canonized" especially since bionicle is coming back -.-If he didn't like doing it, he would ask to drop out from the chat topic. He hasn't done it yet, so we can assume that he wants to do this. 3 Quote bZpOwEr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonesiii Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 Why try to "approve" canon I'm sure Greg does not like making things "canonized" especially since bionicle is coming back -.-I don't see why Gen2 starting should make Greg not want to keep improving some of the details of Gen1? You do know he isn't involved with Gen2, right? So not like Gen2 will make him too busy or anything... I think Gen2 increasing interest in Bionicle in general means now is a more likely time to want some more Gen1 additions, not less. 4 Quote The Destiny of Bionicle (chronological retelling of Bionicle original series, 9 PDFs of 10 chapters each on Google Drive): Part 1 - Warring with Fate | Part 2 - Year of Change | Part 3 - The Exploration Trap | Part 4 - Rise of the Warlords | Part 5 - A Busy Matoran | Part 6 - The Dark Time | Part 7 - Proving Grounds | Part 8 - A Rude Awakening | Part 9 - The Battle of Giants My Bionicle Fanfiction (Google Drive folder, eventually planned to have PDFs of all of it) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tuuli Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 Why do the masks of the Toa mangai matter anyway? Story is over, build your own toa mangais <.> why must little details such as the masks of a few side characters be so dealt with? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boidoh Posted December 22, 2014 Author Share Posted December 22, 2014 To fill in the unknowns of the universe. Why is the excuse, "story is over", always brought up? That's like saying I can't play my NES games because they stopped making games for the system and I must ONLY play my Wii U because there are still games for the thing coming out. Quote Add me on 3DS: 0516-7750-0068Add me on Wii U: Boidoh "I am Lloyd Garmadon, son of Lord Garmadon." - Lloyd, Episode 4: Never Trust a Snake"I am Lloyd Garmadon, son of Lord Garmadon." - Lloyd, Episode 44: Corridor of EldersLike, Comment, And Subscribe for Nintendo Content - NinBoidoh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonesiii Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 Ras, that has already been discussed in this and several previous topics. Quote The Destiny of Bionicle (chronological retelling of Bionicle original series, 9 PDFs of 10 chapters each on Google Drive): Part 1 - Warring with Fate | Part 2 - Year of Change | Part 3 - The Exploration Trap | Part 4 - Rise of the Warlords | Part 5 - A Busy Matoran | Part 6 - The Dark Time | Part 7 - Proving Grounds | Part 8 - A Rude Awakening | Part 9 - The Battle of Giants My Bionicle Fanfiction (Google Drive folder, eventually planned to have PDFs of all of it) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorek Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 To fill in the unknowns of the universe. Why is the excuse, "story is over", always brought up? That's like saying I can't play my NES games because they stopped making games for the system and I must ONLY play my Wii U because there are still games for the thing coming out.I think a better analogy for that would be "why waste time haranguing the devs of an old game to patch it?". At what point are we willing to accept the game for what it is, imperfections and all? Nobody is saying you can't play the old game, but count your blessings that one of the developers has some spare time on his hands. 1 Quote BS01's Ambassador (Like us, Follow us) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irrie Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 I think a better analogy for that would be "why waste time haranguing the devs of an old game to patch it?".The problem with that statement is that Greg has no issue with canonizing things, at least to my knowledge. As long as he's happy with doing what he's doing, I don't see why you want to challenge it. Quote bZpOwEr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorek Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 I think a better analogy for that would be "why waste time haranguing the devs of an old game to patch it?".The problem with that statement is that Greg has no issue with canonizing things, at least to my knowledge. As long as he's happy with doing what he's doing, I don't see why you want to challenge it. I'm not challenging it, just wanted to clarify what I didn't think was a great analogy. In video games, one of the best thing about anything with a passionate enough fanbase (PC based, 8bit, anything mod-able) is that fans will go in and patch it themselves, or even create brand new content to the game; there's no worry about what's "official" or recognized by the developers. Fans just do it for the fun, and then spread that along to other people. This is much more like some of the arguments I've seen coming from the creative people, and it's much more applicable. There's plenty of ways to contribute to the lore and the franchise without requiring constant official approval. 1 Quote BS01's Ambassador (Like us, Follow us) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor Makuta Posted December 29, 2014 Share Posted December 29, 2014 So what's the cannon status of this? Quote Tahu; Hau (x) Pakari (x) Kakama (x) Miru (x) Akaku (x) Kaukau (x). Lewa; Hau (x) Pakari (x) Kakama (x) Miru (x) Akaku (x) Kaukau (x). Onua; Hau (x) Pakari (x) Kakama (x) Miru (x) Akaku (x) Kaukau (x). Kopaka; Hau (x) Pakari (x) Kakama (x) Miru (x) Akaku (x) Kaukau (x). Pohatu; Hau (x) Pakari (x) Kakama (x) Miru (x) Akaku (x) Kaukau (x). Gali; Hau (x) Pakari (x) Kakama (x) Miru (x) Akaku (x) Kaukau (x). Vakama; Huna (x) Ruru (x) Komau (x) Mahiki (x) Matatu (x) Rau (x). Matau; Huna (x) Ruru (x) Komau (x) Mahiki (x) Matatu (x) Rau (x). Whenua; Huna (x) Ruru (x) Komau (x) Mahiki (x) Matatu (x) Rau (x). Nuju; Huna (x) Ruru (x) Komau (x) Mahiki (x) Matatu (x) Rau (x). Onewa; Huna (x) Ruru (x) Komau (x) Mahiki (x) Matatu (x) Rau (x). Nokama; Huna (x) Ruru (x) Komau (x) Mahiki (x) Matatu (x) Rau (x). Matoran; Hau (x) Pakari (x) Kakama (x) Miru (x) Akaku (x) Huna (x) Rahi; Infected Hau (x) Huna (x) Kakama (x) Komau (x) Pakari (x) Ruru ()Promotional Kanohi - Vahi (x) Chrome Hau (x) Ruru (x) TNGM (x) Copper Huna (x) Copper Komau () An (x) means I have, a () means I dont. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALVIS Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 So what's the cannon status of this? Boidoh has submitted the results to Greg for approval in the LMB thread. Since Greg hasn't been answering many questions over the break, however, he has not approved or disapproved any of the results. Quote "You are not entitled to your opinion. You are entitled to your informed opinion. No one is entitled to be ignorant." -- Harlan Ellison Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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