Fry Posted December 26, 2014 Share Posted December 26, 2014 (edited) I love J.R.R.Tolkien and there was no topic about Middle Earth, so I figured that I'd start one. Well, ere' goes.The latest Hobbit movie was okay, in my opinion, though it had way more 'filler' moments than Desolation had. *SPOILERS! IF YOU HAVEN'T SEEN THE MOVIE, LOOK AWAY!* For instance, they stretched out the battle between Thorin and Azog way too long. It didn't have to be half of the movie!When you're working off of a book that you can finish in the time it takes to watch ONE of the movies based off of that book, you know that somwthing isn't right. Don't get me wrong, the movies aren't bad, alot of the 'filler' comes from books like the Silmirillion, so it isn't inaccurate 'filler' but I found myself really feeling this movies length. Edited January 15, 2015 by PrismWind Quote Visit my Bionicle 2001 site recreation! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skakdi Chronicler Posted December 26, 2014 Share Posted December 26, 2014 SPOILERS Yeah, The battle between Azog and thorin was really long, I kinda wished that they left the battle at azog falls into the water for a little of a twist ending. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irrie Posted December 26, 2014 Share Posted December 26, 2014 I've only seen the first Hobbit movie, and I loathed it. I'm not going to see any more of that insult to J.R.R. Tolkien's work. 2 Quote bZpOwEr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hodor Posted December 26, 2014 Share Posted December 26, 2014 Haven't sat down and watched the Jackson Hobbit movies yet. I did get the blu-ray set for the LotR Extended cuts as a gift, though, and have been trying to get my hands on the animated films. Can't say I'm much of a fan of Tolkien's prose, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Hip Historian Iaredios Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 *Spoiler* I thought the first Hobbit movie was great, but the last two had too many fillers. :/ I loved the ending for Five Armies though, that hint of Aragorn made me smile. Quote A RUDE AWAKENING - A Spherus Magna redo | Tzais-Kuluu | Pushing Back The Tide | Last Words | Black Coronation | Blue Man Bound | Visions of Thasos ن We are all but grey specks in a dark complex before a single white light Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archer Vonn Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 such a brilliant man. his contributions to his genre of literature and of fantasy are so taken for granted, too. it's a real shame, but i suppose that's the world we live in. 2 Quote 3DS: 3711-9364-3152 PSN: AidecVoros Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. House Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 (edited) In regards to Hobbit films, I think the first one was good, the second was horrific, and the third, while having some awesome moments, was a particularly mediocre film. They took a small square of butter, and tried to spread it onto a giant sub roll. I will keep my DVD of the Rankin-Bass version close, childish as it is, It was in my opinion an oddly better and more faithful adaption. Edited January 13, 2015 by Mr. House 1 Quote I occasionally return to BZP for a nostalgic trip back. Hit me up on discord if you need anything. BZPRPG Characters that I will possibly revive, Mons-Shajs-Tarotrix-Aryll Vudigg-Jorruk Yokin-Senavysh Angavur Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fry Posted January 14, 2015 Author Share Posted January 14, 2015 In regards to Hobbit films, I think the first one was good, the second was horrific, and the third, while having some awesome moments, was a particularly mediocre film. They took a small square of butter, and tried to spread it onto a giant sub roll. I will keep my DVD of the Rankin-Bass version close, childish as it is, It was in my opinion an oddly better and more faithful adaption.The Rankin-Bass version butchered Barad-Dûr. It also butchered the Witch king of Angmar... and the Mouth of Sauron. It completely destroyed the serious tone of the book by making it for little kids. When you read the books you realize; The Lord of the Rings is not for kids. It is more accurate, but I find my self cringing when I watch it. I actually prefer the 1978 Lord of the Rings animated movie. Quote Visit my Bionicle 2001 site recreation! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hasreadit Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 I've only seen the first Hobbit movie, and I loathed it. I'm not going to see any more of that insult to J.R.R. Tolkien's work.This haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
randomreviewerbros Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 (edited) I personally loved The Hobbit movies and i can have that opinion My favorite has to be Desolation of Smaug, this scene is my favorite in that movie: Edited January 14, 2015 by randomreviewerbros Quote Go check out our Youtube channel! We review BIONICLE and other LEGO related items! https://www.youtube.com/user/RandomReviewerBros Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hodor Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 In regards to Hobbit films, I think the first one was good, the second was horrific, and the third, while having some awesome moments, was a particularly mediocre film. They took a small square of butter, and tried to spread it onto a giant sub roll. I will keep my DVD of the Rankin-Bass version close, childish as it is, It was in my opinion an oddly better and more faithful adaption.The Rankin-Bass version butchered Barad-Dûr. It also butchered the Witch king of Angmar... and the Mouth of Sauron. It completely destroyed the serious tone of the book by making it for little kids. When you read the books you realize; The Lord of the Rings is not for kids. It is more accurate, but I find my self cringing when I watch it. I actually prefer the 1978 Lord of the Rings animated movie. He's talking about the Rankin-Bass Hobbit movie, man. It's not a bad little thing, for what it was, honestly. Really wish Bakshi got to make the second half of his LotR films, though. The '78 movie's rotoscoping wasn't even finished, I believe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fry Posted January 15, 2015 Author Share Posted January 15, 2015 (edited) In regards to Hobbit films, I think the first one was good, the second was horrific, and the third, while having some awesome moments, was a particularly mediocre film. They took a small square of butter, and tried to spread it onto a giant sub roll. I will keep my DVD of the Rankin-Bass version close, childish as it is, It was in my opinion an oddly better and more faithful adaption.The Rankin-Bass version butchered Barad-Dûr. It also butchered the Witch king of Angmar... and the Mouth of Sauron. It completely destroyed the serious tone of the book by making it for little kids. When you read the books you realize; The Lord of the Rings is not for kids. It is more accurate, but I find my self cringing when I watch it. I actually prefer the 1978 Lord of the Rings animated movie. He's talking about the Rankin-Bass Hobbit movie, man. It's not a bad little thing, for what it was, honestly. Really wish Bakshi got to make the second half of his LotR films, though. The '78 movie's rotoscoping wasn't even finished, I believe. Oh, sorry, I guess that I had the Return of the King on my mind >^.^< In that case, I'll have to agree. The movie trilogy wasn't very good. Edited January 15, 2015 by PrismWind Quote Visit my Bionicle 2001 site recreation! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hodor Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 In regards to Hobbit films, I think the first one was good, the second was horrific, and the third, while having some awesome moments, was a particularly mediocre film. They took a small square of butter, and tried to spread it onto a giant sub roll. I will keep my DVD of the Rankin-Bass version close, childish as it is, It was in my opinion an oddly better and more faithful adaption.The Rankin-Bass version butchered Barad-Dûr. It also butchered the Witch king of Angmar... and the Mouth of Sauron. It completely destroyed the serious tone of the book by making it for little kids. When you read the books you realize; The Lord of the Rings is not for kids. It is more accurate, but I find my self cringing when I watch it. I actually prefer the 1978 Lord of the Rings animated movie. He's talking about the Rankin-Bass Hobbit movie, man. It's not a bad little thing, for what it was, honestly. Really wish Bakshi got to make the second half of his LotR films, though. The '78 movie's rotoscoping wasn't even finished, I believe. Oh, sorry, I guess that I had the Return of the King on my mind >^.^< In that case, I'll have to agree. The movie trilogy wasn't very good. Really? I love the Jackson movies. Just wonder how Bakshi would've handled the rest of the story, honestly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
randomreviewerbros Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 The Lord of The Rings movies I felt was an unbelievably great movie series and were just amazing in terms of their CGI and action scenes, they are in the top 20 movies of all time, and i feel they deserve to be there, but everyone is certainly entitled to their own opinion thats just mine I guess Quote Go check out our Youtube channel! We review BIONICLE and other LEGO related items! https://www.youtube.com/user/RandomReviewerBros Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fry Posted January 16, 2015 Author Share Posted January 16, 2015 (edited) The Lord of The Rings movies I felt was an unbelievably great movie series and were just amazing in terms of their CGI and action scenes, they are in the top 20 movies of all time, and i feel they deserve to be there, but everyone is certainly entitled to their own opinion thats just mine I guess The Lord of the Rings movies were excellent I meant that The Hobbit trilogy wasn't very good. Edited January 16, 2015 by PrismWind Quote Visit my Bionicle 2001 site recreation! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
randomreviewerbros Posted January 17, 2015 Share Posted January 17, 2015 The Lord of The Rings movies I felt was an unbelievably great movie series and were just amazing in terms of their CGI and action scenes, they are in the top 20 movies of all time, and i feel they deserve to be there, but everyone is certainly entitled to their own opinion thats just mine I guess The Lord of the Rings movies were excellent I meant that The Hobbit trilogy wasn't very good. Yeah man I know I have to agree they werent as good as The Lord of the Rings movies Quote Go check out our Youtube channel! We review BIONICLE and other LEGO related items! https://www.youtube.com/user/RandomReviewerBros Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adventurer Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 Three three hours long movies and so little Beorn. I just can't cope. He was barely in the fight at the end at all - literally 1-2 seconds. My aunt didn't even know who he was after having seen all three. 3 Quote Credit to Pohuaki for the awesome banner! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Hip Historian Iaredios Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 I have an idea: rather then make a movie series about the Silmarillion, why not have peeps commission Howard Shore to write music for the book itself, kind of like what Lucas Arts did for Star Wars: Shadows of the Empire? I think that would be stupendous. 1 Quote A RUDE AWAKENING - A Spherus Magna redo | Tzais-Kuluu | Pushing Back The Tide | Last Words | Black Coronation | Blue Man Bound | Visions of Thasos ن We are all but grey specks in a dark complex before a single white light Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hodor Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 >music adaptation of the Silmarillion.That already exists, it's called Nightfall In Middle Earth, and it's one of the best rock/metal albums of all time. Honestly, I'd love to see a Silmarillion film done as a series of animated anthology films. Only real way I can see there being a movie, honestly- certainly is next to impossible to film. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Hip Historian Iaredios Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 I enjoy Howard Shore's music and I would rather have music that is akin to the other films. And yes, a detailed, traditionally animated film in 3-D H-D would be awesome. Quote A RUDE AWAKENING - A Spherus Magna redo | Tzais-Kuluu | Pushing Back The Tide | Last Words | Black Coronation | Blue Man Bound | Visions of Thasos ن We are all but grey specks in a dark complex before a single white light Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fry Posted January 26, 2015 Author Share Posted January 26, 2015 I think that the Children of Húrin and the Silmarillion should be turned into a trilogy. That would be understandable, unlike turning a childrens book that could be read in half the time that it takes to watch the movie trilogy based of that book! Watch the 4 hour Hobbit: Tolkein Edit. It is all three movies edited to strictly follow the book. Quote Visit my Bionicle 2001 site recreation! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Smith Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 I think that the Children of Húrin and the Silmarillion should be turned into a trilogy. That would be understandable, unlike turning a childrens book that could be read in half the time that it takes to watch the movie trilogy based of that book! Watch the 4 hour Hobbit: Tolkein Edit. It is all three movies edited to strictly follow the book. I don't know if the Silmarillion would work well as a trilogy; most of it is told in narration, not dialogue, so the screenwriters would have to invent quite a lot of dialogue. At least in the Hobbit movie trilogy, I found much of the screenwriter-invented dialogue to be rather poor; It had a different, more modern, style and cadence than Tolkien's dialogue. So unless they hire someone who can more effectively mimic Tolkien's style, I can't say I look forward to a Silmarillion movie. The Children of Húrin could work, though, since it has more dialogue and is fleshed out in greater detail than much of the Silmarillion. Also, thanks for mentioning that 4 hour edit of the Hobbit movies; it sounds interesting! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hodor Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 Honestly, the lack of dialogue in the Silmarillion is a big reason why I can see an animated adaptation of it working. A lack of dialogue can come off as comical in live action or even CGI, but in 2D? It can work much easier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Hip Historian Iaredios Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 Honestly, the lack of dialogue in the Silmarillion is a big reason why I can see an animated adaptation of it working. A lack of dialogue can come off as comical in live action or even CGI, but in 2D? It can work much easier.As an FYI to naysayers, please do remember that Samurai Jack did this and pulled it off incredibly well. Quote A RUDE AWAKENING - A Spherus Magna redo | Tzais-Kuluu | Pushing Back The Tide | Last Words | Black Coronation | Blue Man Bound | Visions of Thasos ن We are all but grey specks in a dark complex before a single white light Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Smith Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 Honestly, the lack of dialogue in the Silmarillion is a big reason why I can see an animated adaptation of it working. A lack of dialogue can come off as comical in live action or even CGI, but in 2D? It can work much easier. Hm. I think the problem in that case would be not the lack of dialogue, but the lack of a continuous "one scene sets up the next" plot, despite the plot being very complex. If you wanted to adapt it without using much dialogue, I think you'd need a narrator for large portions of it, which might make it seem dull or pointless. On the other hand, an animated adaptation wouldn't have to play up the battle scenes as much as a live-action one, which would help it stay a lot more faithful to the source material. Perhaps the solution is to only adapt certain parts that do have a more linear narrative, like the story of Beren and Luthien. Honestly, the lack of dialogue in the Silmarillion is a big reason why I can see an animated adaptation of it working. A lack of dialogue can come off as comical in live action or even CGI, but in 2D? It can work much easier.As an FYI to naysayers, please do remember that Samurai Jack did this and pulled it off incredibly well. Indeed. I've only seen a little bit of it, but it was done excellently and I could definitely get behind an animated Silmarillion adaptation using some similar techniques. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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