Aldian Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 Yes, air and error sound very similar, but that's not my reasoning for posting this topic. It just a cool way to add relevance to the topic. Anyway, onto my point. Now, I'm not sure if it's just coincidental, or there is some link between them, but I have noticed something. I was thinking about about all the toa that have defected and I realized something. Most of those who've defected are toa of air.Spinner, toa of air - defected.Nihdiki, toa of air - defected.Hey, even Lewa defected, albeit from a Krana, and only temporarily.Originally Matau was even planned to defect, as opposed to Vakama doing so.To reiterate, I'm not saying they're linked, they can just be coincidental. But, it doesn't make this question invalid; Is it all linked? Do Toa of air have a disposition, or maybe a programming error, that might make them more susceptible to defecting?I remember giving a theory in the Powers that Be topic, about who I might think the murderer is; Iruini, a toa of air. Granted, I can be wrong, but a few things I've pointed out might make him a candidate. Should we expect more Toa of Air to defect?Anyway, I can just be over thinking it and it could just be coincidental. But it is, nonetheless, odd. Thoughts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrozenFlash Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 There might be more Toa of Air that will defect because the Toa of Air are usually the ones to make the mistakes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Makuta Matata Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 I think it's just in their nature. After all, it's easy to pollute air.That's not why, though. I think it's because Toa of Air have a disposition to be reckless and make the wrong choices, which can lead to corruption. Quote Three on Three - Memoirs of the Dead - Winner!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taipu1 Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 I think it's just in their nature. After all, it's easy to pollute air.That's not why, though. I think it's because Toa of Air have a disposition to be reckless and make the wrong choices, which can lead to corruption.Wrecklessness, yes. Beings of different elements have different personalities. In this case, air might be susceptible to making the wrong choices. Lewa didn't have a choice really, even if he did change sides twice for infected kanohi and krana. But that could have happened to any Toa. Quote - Taipu1.HighFly MatoranShowdownBZPRPG ProfilesHave you seen my Blog? I understand if you haven't Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gahlok Va Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 Not to mention Lesovikk, who is suspected to have killed two beings already. Lewa also defected via infected Kanohi in MNOG. Iruini left the Toa Hagah at some point (no betrayal, but still). Kongu fell to the victim of the Skakdi fusion (though so did the rest of the Mahri).Toa of Air are all doomed. Quote Osaatko lukea tämän? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GSR Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 (edited) Going by the Standard Personality Traits of fiction, characters associated with air are often less cautious and more likely to shift allegiances or bend rules as necessary. Presumably that just bled over into the storyline here.(Also, Lewa just seems to have the worst luck of anyone in the universe.) Edited December 18, 2011 by GSR Quote Hey: I'm not very active around BZP right now. However, you can always contact me through PM (I have email notifications set up) and I will reply as soon as I can. Useful Topics: The Q&A Compendium | The Official RPG Planning Topic Stories: Fractures | An Aftermath | Three Stories | LSO 2012 Epics: Team Three | The Shadow and the Sea | The Days They Were Needed | Glitches | Transformations | Echoes | The Kaita and the Storyteller | Nui BZPRPG: Komae · Soraya · Bohrei Blog: Defendant Lobby no. 42 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toa of Nerds Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 I don't think it's because of any programming error, it's just because of their disposition. Generally, all of the air beings were fun-loving and joking, but also vain and impacient and implusive. That disposition allowed for them to manipulated to evil ends.-don't touch my pocket protector Quote Three great comedies at one low, low price....NOTHING! Kicking the Bucket (archived)Three late-middle age matoran think of something they want to do before they kick the bucket. Choose Your Own Bionicle Adventure (archived)Navigate your way through a myriad of meaningless choices as you try to not make a fool of yourself in perhaps the only comedy ever written almost entirely in spoiler tags. Useless BZP Junk that you Must Have!!!Get to your phone, whip out your credit card, and prepare to buy some useless BZPower related junk that has no benefit on society except that you want it!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonesiii Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 Well, there -have- been other instances, esp. Fire. But less so, admittedly.I think Lewa has something unique going on here. (Actually it's something I'm portraying in my current fanfic, Endless Blue, in which Lewa is a main character.) Basically his carefree attitude, and also from our real-world perspective a recurring theme on LEGO's part. Infected Mask, Krana, Tren Krom. I would liken it to many similar examples in LOST where seemingly beyond the character's control or fault, events seem to conspire to force them to face many similar challenges (like Locke often losing control of his legs or Sayid facing torture or the temptation to do so). It gives the storyteller a tool to put characters in the situations where they are personally most interesting.As for the other Air Toa, part of it could simply be LEGO extending that recurring theme as a nostalgic nod towards fans. But I think the tendency to be careless as others said is also a factor. Quote The Destiny of Bionicle (chronological retelling of Bionicle original series, 9 PDFs of 10 chapters each on Google Drive): Part 1 - Warring with Fate | Part 2 - Year of Change | Part 3 - The Exploration Trap | Part 4 - Rise of the Warlords | Part 5 - A Busy Matoran | Part 6 - The Dark Time | Part 7 - Proving Grounds | Part 8 - A Rude Awakening | Part 9 - The Battle of Giants My Bionicle Fanfiction (Google Drive folder, eventually planned to have PDFs of all of it) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dralcax Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 Carefree, valuable friend, less so an ally, not serious, informal, ridiculed, gullible. Why not? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aldian Posted December 19, 2011 Author Share Posted December 19, 2011 Well, I had thought of Lesovikk, considering he is another potential Toa of air to defect. But, I just don't think he is, so I didn't put him down. I mean, he had a motive against Karzahni, but Tren Krom, he didn't. Just one reason why I don't think it is him.But I think the tendency to be careless as others said is also a factor.Possible, I guess. In BIONICLE, each personality does seem to have their own set traits. Like Air element is a good example, Lewa, Kongu, etc. All kind of that free spirited. Not to mention a lot of air wielders' share treespeak.Toa of Air are all doomed.Possibly.. let's hope it's not the case, though. For, if my theory on Iruini is the murderer is correct, it just might further this whole conundrum. Plus, I like Iruini - it would suck if I was correct... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The 1st Shadow Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 I find this an interesting question. But there's one other thing to consider: what about every Toa that has ever existed? We only know of some Toa of Air that have defected, but we don't know how many others of different elements have done so as well.But these are some good points to make note of. Toa of Air are usually more carefree, and reckless, meaning that they have that as a weakness. I have a Toa of Air in my epic, When the Month Ends, named Korahn, and he serves as the primary antagonist, for some of these same reasons. He jumps to conclusions and makes an enemy out of characters who never did him or anyone wrong. He just goes off before thinking and it leads him down the wrong path, as I assume it does for many Toa of Air.Just look at what has happened to Lewa thus far. Quote ~Your friendly, neighborhood Shadow ~Credit for Avatar and Banner goes to NickonAquaMagna~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VeoiTheRascal Posted December 25, 2011 Share Posted December 25, 2011 But Lewa - as has been mentioned above - had bad luck factoring in his past predicaments, and also to realize that perhaps Lewa is a bad example because he himself has never out right defected Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kopaka25 Posted December 27, 2011 Share Posted December 27, 2011 The air can blow in any which direction it wants, and can change direction whenever. This could be the same for Toa of Air - unpredictable and reckless. Quote "Where wisdom and valor fail, all that remains is faith. And it can overcome all." - Tahu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g.m.c4 Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 Well it could be that air is one of the most wishy-washy elements (for some reason water isn't) and Toa of air just don't take their duty as seriously as Toa of other elements. Quote -Thisisanoriginalsignature- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kojol Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 Air is reckless, Fire is angry. They're the elements who are likely to do stupid things like turn evil.Also, Lewa being mind-controlled is a running gag at this point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voxumo Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 it is a interesting pattern that many toa of air have defected. and about your iruini statement if i remember correctly he left the toa hagah for a while and only came back when they needed his help. Maybe it's one of those curses. " Alright which toa of air touched the ignika? be honest was it you lewa?" " No kongu did it." " No i didnt"Sorry my mind trailed off. but it is certainly interesting maybe greg could shed some light. Quote Banner made by Onaku BZPRPG CHARACTERS Syvra-Tivanu If you interact with one of my characters and I don't respond or acknowledge the interaction within a day, send me a PM. Odds are I missed or did not see the post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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