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**Tahkuta** · October 15, 2011

ARGH! Ya beat me to the topic! I think this year so far hasnt been bad, in my eyes at least. I saw SOAD live, picked up the Iron Maiden "From Fear To Eternity" and am going to Judas Priest when they come. Black Sabbath also announced a reunion tour and album, and Metallica has that project going with Lou Reed. Yes, things are going well.

**Queen of Liars** · October 15, 2011

ARGH! Ya beat me to the topic! I think this year so far hasnt been bad, in my eyes at least. I saw SOAD live, picked up the Iron Maiden "From Fear To Eternity" and am going to Judas Priest when they come. Black Sabbath also announced a reunion tour and album, and Metallica has that project going with Lou Reed. Yes, things are going well.

The Black Sabbath thing was never actually announced. Tony Iommi made a statement saying that the journalist was making things up and spreading rumors and that Iommi never said anything about a reunion.

**Laughing Man** · October 15, 2011

OH I can't believe I forgot.Anybody pick up the new Amon Amarth earlier this year? I was a little late to the party, got it a couple months back. Album slays.

**Queen of Liars** · October 15, 2011

OH I can't believe I forgot. Anybody pick up the new Amon Amarth earlier this year? I was a little late to the party, got it a couple months back. Album slays.

I listened to it, and it was definitely good, but just didn't hook me like Twilight of the Thunder God did and I don't know why, but I'm just not that impressed with it :shrugs:

Rarity · October 15, 2011

What ever happend to Metallica's "real" new album? I heard rumors it was being worked on, but after they announced lulu, nothing.

**Laughing Man** · October 15, 2011

I heard they were still working on it, but I dunno.I don't really care either way, personally - I love Metallica's first five albums to death (say what you will about post-Black Album Metallica, but that album itself was great) but I recently realized that at this point they're not much more than irrelevant, washed-up rock stars like so many others, more concerned with their image than with making truly good music.To quote Metallica themselves, "it's sad but true".

-Sykura- · October 15, 2011

I heard they were still working on it, but I dunno. I don't really care either way, personally - I love Metallica's first five albums to death (say what you will about post-Black Album Metallica, but that album itself was great) but I recently realized that at this point they're not much more than irrelevant, washed-up rock stars like so many others, more concerned with their image than with making truly good music. To quote Metallica themselves, "it's sad but true".

I second this entirely. Anything after the self-titled is awful. (Although I do like The Day That Never Comes)

Also, anybody got any good doom metal suggestions? (Various subgenres also) I have found some that I really like, but a lot of it is a bit boring, to be honest.

Rarity · October 15, 2011

DM was good. I only didn't like Unforgiven III, and The Day that never comes didn't feel right for the album.

**Queen of Liars** · October 15, 2011

For Doom Metal, try My Dying Bride and Swallow The Sun. Early stuff from Paradise Lost before they created Gothic Metal is also some good Deathdoom.

**Laughing Man** · October 16, 2011

Also, anybody got any good doom metal suggestions? (Various subgenres also) I have found some that I really like, but a lot of it is a bit boring, to be honest.

Trouble is pretty good doom metal.Early Katatonia is also good death/doom. Edited October 16, 2011 by Laughin'Man

Johnny Truant · October 16, 2011

EDIT: ^ For doom metal, Warning and Agalloch are fantastic

ARGH! Ya beat me to the topic! I think this year so far hasnt been bad, in my eyes at least. I saw SOAD live, picked up the Iron Maiden "From Fear To Eternity" and am going to Judas Priest when they come. Black Sabbath also announced a reunion tour and album, and Metallica has that project going with Lou Reed. Yes, things are going well.

> Metallica has that project going with Lou Reed> Things are going well ಠ_ಠ Edited October 16, 2011 by G.I.R

Rarity · October 16, 2011

Maybe it was a typo.

**Shadow Kurahk** · October 16, 2011

I've been listening to Rammstein religiously. For those who don't know, Rammstein is a German "Industrial Metal" band. Missed my chance to see them live, but it's all good. I'd recommend songs "Amerika," "Mann gegen Mann," "Haifisch," and "Ich tu dir Weh" off the top of my head. I'm also a big fan of System of a Down. Any song of theirs is fantastic. Saw them live in LA back in May. Probably the greatest concert I've ever been to. I listen to Metallica as well, but not as much. May or may not see them in San Francisco in December. -SK

Edited October 16, 2011 by Shadow Kurahk

**Queen of Liars** · October 16, 2011

I've been listening to Rammstein religiously. For those who don't know, Rammstein is a German "Industrial Metal" band. Missed my chance to see them live, but it's all good. I'd recommend songs "Amerika," "Mann gegen Mann," "Haifisch," and "Ich tu dir Weh" off the top of my head. I'm also a big fan of System of a Down. Any song of theirs is fantastic. Saw them live in LA back in May. Probably the greatest concert I've ever been to. I listen to Metallica as well, but not as much. May or may not see them in San Francisco in December. -SK

Rammstein are great. I saw them at a festival last year and their pyrotechnics don't disappoint. Mutter is a fantastic album.

**Tahkuta** · October 16, 2011

OH I can't believe I forgot. Anybody pick up the new Amon Amarth earlier this year? I was a little late to the party, got it a couple months back. Album slays.

I never quite got into Amon Amarth, I listen to them occaisionally, but for Viking Metal, Ensiferum is where its at!

**Xinlo** · October 16, 2011

Slightly off topic to the current discussion, but I'm just wondering, did anyone listen to the new Dream Theater? if so, what were your thoughts? I personally rank it as one of their top 2 best albums, beside Octavaium.

**Angel Beat** · October 16, 2011

Triptykon.Just... Triptykon. Met most of the band members @ Wacken Open Air this year.

**Dorek** · October 16, 2011

@Dorek: Really? I thought 2011 has been pretty great so far. We've gotten new Opeth, Mastodon, In Flames, Machine Head, Anthrax, and Dream Theater, and have the new Megadeth on the way - among countless others.. better than 2010, in my opinion. @Varaka: yes, yes they do

In Flames was good, every other album was pretty bad, in my opinion, though I haven't caught the Dream Theater one; they aren't really my style. Just because they're big names doesn't mean the album is good =P

@Superbionicle: please go listen to some better bands.

aaaaand there it is. Nothing wrong with Mudvayne or Slipknot. Are they the best? I wouldn't say so. But they're far from bad.

**Angel Beat** · October 16, 2011

Also, Kamelot is in need of a new singer, since Roy Khan quit.

**Xinlo** · October 17, 2011

@Dorek: Really? I thought 2011 has been pretty great so far. We've gotten new Opeth, Mastodon, In Flames, Machine Head, Anthrax, and Dream Theater, and have the new Megadeth on the way - among countless others.. better than 2010, in my opinion. @Varaka: yes, yes they do
In Flames was good, every other album was pretty bad, in my opinion, though I haven't caught the Dream Theater one; they aren't really my style. Just because they're big names doesn't mean the album is good =P
@Superbionicle: please go listen to some better bands.
aaaaand there it is. Nothing wrong with Mudvayne or Slipknot. Are they the best? I wouldn't say so. But they're far from bad.

However, just because you think that just because they're big names doesn't mean they're good doesn't mean that we still don't like them. I loved all the albums I've heard this year. Also I despise Slipknot.

Etiainen · October 17, 2011

Also, anybody got any good doom metal suggestions? (Various subgenres also) I have found some that I really like, but a lot of it is a bit boring, to be honest.

Pantheist, Mourning Beloveth and early Anathema are great.

For doom metal, Warning and Agalloch are fantastic

I wouldn't really call Agalloch doom. Edited October 17, 2011 by Etiainen

Slyph 1 · October 17, 2011

I've fallen in love with "...And Justice For All". The guitars are so insanely heavy that... well... Holy ######, I can't describe how much it pumps me up... It also makes me want to get a Mesa Boogie Dual Rectifier amp, run the preamp through a Marshall power section, and just crank out the heavy riffs... Or just go with a regular Mesa Boogie Dual Rectifier. Also: I'm hoping that I can get Th1rt3en Deluxe Edition as well... Although I already have a bunch of vinyl, I have no Megadeth vinyl. :<

**Dorek** · October 17, 2011

@Dorek: Really? I thought 2011 has been pretty great so far. We've gotten new Opeth, Mastodon, In Flames, Machine Head, Anthrax, and Dream Theater, and have the new Megadeth on the way - among countless others.. better than 2010, in my opinion. @Varaka: yes, yes they do
In Flames was good, every other album was pretty bad, in my opinion, though I haven't caught the Dream Theater one; they aren't really my style. Just because they're big names doesn't mean the album is good =P
@Superbionicle: please go listen to some better bands.
aaaaand there it is. Nothing wrong with Mudvayne or Slipknot. Are they the best? I wouldn't say so. But they're far from bad.

However, just because you think that just because they're big names doesn't mean they're good doesn't mean that we still don't like them. I loved all the albums I've heard this year. Also I despise Slipknot.

And this is exactly what was wrong with the previous topic; people judging each other unfairly because of musical tastes, and assuming that bands are good simply because of their status or genre. I happened to not like many metal albums that came out this year (and I even saw Megadeth in concert, performing some of the new songs, and I was less than impressed. Peace Sells was the most interesting song they played, sadly), despite some big names releasing stuff.

-Sykura- · October 17, 2011

And this is exactly what was wrong with the previous topic; people judging each other unfairly because of musical tastes, and assuming that bands are good simply because of their status or genre.

This annoys me too. I mean, the majority of what I listen to is mainly death and black, but I also like a fair bit of "-core" myself, only however, bands that I deem to be more metal than core. You shall not find me saying that Black Veil Brides are death metal or anything like those ####### cool dudes. I suppose that I am an elitist in the sense that it has to be more than sixty percent metal influenced to be considered as real metal. Also, you should totally check out Sylosis (melodic death/thrash) just got into them recently and am loving it. Also thanks for the doom suggestions.

**Xinlo** · October 17, 2011

@Dorek: I'm somewhat confused by the wording of your post... Are you agreeing with me, or saying that I'm being judgmental?

Edited October 17, 2011 by Xinlo: Spirit Of Sonics

Rahkshi Kal · October 17, 2011

Also, I'm sure you all know about Lulu? Thoughts on that?

I'm actually pretty excited for Lulu. It's an interesting sound with Metallica's style with Reed's vocals. I pre-ordered it. I'm more excited for the new Megadeth album. Speaking of which, anyone here that new song they've been streaming? Whose Life (Is It Anyway?).

**Xinlo** · October 17, 2011

I downloaded it from their site the second I woke up, been listening to it all day. IMO it's the second best they've released from the new album so far, behind Public Enemy. My main issue with it is that moment right when the vocals start just doesn't sound... right. Otherwise I love it.

Rarity · October 17, 2011

I love what I've heard so far of Never Dead

Edited October 17, 2011 by OmiShad

Johnny Truant · October 18, 2011

For doom metal, Warning and Agalloch are fantastic
I wouldn't really call Agalloch doom.

They're sort of doomy

**Laughing Man** · October 19, 2011

Picked up the brand new Insomnium album and Arch Enemy's newest album from FYE, giving 'em a listen.Which brings me to a question: Do you guys consider melodeath a legit form of death metal, or do you think it's essentially mislabeled and should be considered a separate style entirely?

Rarity · October 19, 2011

I find Melo a legit part of death. Also, if we didn't have Metalheads shouting "poser" at each other, it just wouldn't be the same.

MantaxApprentice · October 19, 2011

Lately I've been listening to a lot of industrial metal like Ministry, RevCo KMFDM, and Army of the Universe. Anybody have any suggestions for other bands like these? (I already know Rammstein)

pls respond · October 19, 2011

Am I the only person who listens to The Chariot?

Nawp bro, saw 'em live back in June. It was INSANE. Speaking of insane live shows, I caught the Black Dahlia Murder, All Shall Perish and Cannabis Corpse last Friday. It was so great, definitely one of the best shows I've been to in a while. The venue was super tiny so I was able to get right up next to the bands. Moshing during ASP was definitely one of the best concert going experiences I had. So what concerts did you guys all see during the downtime? Anyone hear the new Oh, Sleeper album? Easily one of the best albums this year so far. Shane's clean vocals are perfection, everything about that album kills. Now if Pig Destroyer could go finish their new album I could die happy.

Also, anybody got any good doom metal suggestions? (Various subgenres also) I have found some that I really like, but a lot of it is a bit boring, to be honest.

Incantation is pretty rad Death/Doom. Also Naked City, a fantastic Jazz/Grindcore band released a doom ep called Leng Tch'e. It's pretty awesome Also yay for the forums being back. I figure I'll probably change my name back to Idunnolol since that's how everyone remembered me. Edited October 19, 2011 by Idunnolol

Rarity · October 19, 2011

I have just re-discovered Violator.

**Queen of Liars** · October 19, 2011

Lately I've been listening to a lot of industrial metal like Ministry, RevCo KMFDM, and Army of the Universe. Anybody have any suggestions for other bands like these? (I already know Rammstein)

Skold. See if you can find his latest album Anomie. He sometimes plays with KMFDM and even did an album with them called Skold vs. KMFDM, you might want to check that out too. Edited October 19, 2011 by -Malchior-

pls respond · October 20, 2011

so has anyone here heard of I Am Abomination? they're this super radical band that sadly isn't more well known. they play a form of melodic metalcore that also edges on the technical side at times. what makes them unique is that their vocalist sings in a style that's reminiscent of pop punk vocalists. it's really interesting and quite frankly pretty freaking awesome. check out their ep Passion of the Heist. it's even more impressive when you consider they only have 2 members at the moment. if you're a fan of Protest the Hero I'd recommend you check it out. you won't regret it.

Thomas Hunter · October 20, 2011

I'm sort of a newb to the hardcore/metal genre, but I'm surprise no one has mentioned Underoath. So far I'm really into them and MyChildren MyBride. Other than that I havn't branched out too far

Rarity · October 20, 2011

I used to like UnderOath but now I don't. And Mychildren Mybride sounds like their from Arkansas... Jk jk jk.I've come to like Dark Angel lately.

**Angel Beat** · October 20, 2011

Meeting and greeting (and taking a picture with) Vanja Slajh from the awesome band Triptykon. That was this year's Wacken Open Air. And yeah, that's not my best face. xD Edited October 20, 2011 by Valenti

Etiainen · October 20, 2011

Just saw Opeth last night. I was so excited when they played Face of Melinda, but then they decided to play Porcelain Heart right afterward. Boo hoo. But they played A Fair Judgement later, so all is well.

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