Tenebrae Invictus Posted March 15, 2012 Posted March 15, 2012 Most prog is definitely an aquired taste. It took me a while to digest the complex arrangements, time signatures, and compositions.Since I'm musically challenged/not a musician, I ignore most of that. Paying attention to things like the beat some more now, but I tend not to. Quote Up, down, turn around, please don't let me hit the ground
HeavyMetalSunshineSister Posted March 15, 2012 Posted March 15, 2012 I tend to make an effort to listen to all of the separate components of a piece, but as I have trouble mentally distinguishing between two simultaneous sounds, it takes several listens before I can make any progress. Quote We will remember - Skies may fade and stars may wane; we won't forget And your light shines bright - yes so much brighter shine on We will remember - Until the skies will fall we won't forget We will remember We all shall follow doom
Legolover-361 Posted March 18, 2012 Posted March 18, 2012 I just finished listening to "2112" by Rush. I think this is one of those rare cases where, although the background music is great, the lyrics are what push the song beyond "good" and into the category of "great". The continuity between all the different sections of the song helped them connect even better. Quote (( BZPRPG profiles: Kynaera, Nova ))
Xinlo Posted March 18, 2012 Author Posted March 18, 2012 I agree, the lyrics tell such a fantastic story. And Invi brought up the idea that the "Attention all planets..." bit was the elder Race returning to make things right, which makes it more awesome. Apparently that's what was intended aswell. Glad you liked it.Also I learned Yes' "Owner Of A Lonely Heart" and "It'll Be A Good Day (The River)" on bass. Working on "Roundabout". Bass is fun =D Quote The Toa's Hideout is once again open for business! We've been gone for a few years, but now BIONICLE's back and so are we. Click the banner to check out our friendly and laid back site where you can discuss all manners of things and chill with awesome people.
Dwanny Posted March 18, 2012 Posted March 18, 2012 I really love Yes, Genesis, Pink Floyd, van der graaf generator, king crimson, and queen. (do the beatles count as prog? x3 )I agree, the lyrics tell such a fantastic story. And Invi brought up the idea that the "Attention all planets..." bit was the elder Race returning to make things right, which makes it more awesome. Apparently that's what was intended aswell. Glad you liked it.Also I learned Yes' "Owner Of A Lonely Heart" and "It'll Be A Good Day (The River)" on bass. Working on "Roundabout". Bass is fun =D Oh, i really love the roundabout bass line! i play drums, so i really like jamming on Squire's grooves. YES FTW! Quote Find me over here! http://danielvangele.tumblr.com/
Tenebrae Invictus Posted March 18, 2012 Posted March 18, 2012 (edited) I think all of Chris Squire's bass lines are great.I picked up King Crimson's Three of A Perfect Pair from a thrift store. Such a great album, but those experimental songs are definitely harder to digest. Edited March 18, 2012 by Tenebrae Invictus Quote Up, down, turn around, please don't let me hit the ground
Xinlo Posted March 23, 2012 Author Posted March 23, 2012 Chris Squire may be my new favourite bassist. David Ellefson's just such a likable guy, though... I dunno' haha. Anyway found a bunch of vinyls at my local shop that are decently priced and awesome, so I'll be going back to pick them up when money is in my possession. I found Close To The Edge, Fragile, Going For The One (all by Yes), Genesis' self titled, and Asia's self titled. They had a lot more yes, but I already have 90125 on CD and Tales From Topographic Oceans kinda' sucks IMO. Quote The Toa's Hideout is once again open for business! We've been gone for a few years, but now BIONICLE's back and so are we. Click the banner to check out our friendly and laid back site where you can discuss all manners of things and chill with awesome people.
Peach 00 Posted March 23, 2012 Posted March 23, 2012 Pink Floyd is a pretty awesome progressive rock band, if this counts. They actually areprogressive, for instance Dark Side of the Moon, Wish You Were Here, and The Wall are examples of their progressive albums. People say these aren't progressive, although the whole point of progressive rock is an entire album of music sounding like an entire song, which is the point of these albums, if I'm not mistaken. People do disagree on this point, but, yeah, they are a progressive rock band. Quote On the day the wall came down / They threw the locks onto the ground And with glasses high / We raised a cry / For freedom had arrived On the day the wall came down / The ship of fools had finally run aground Promises lit up the night / Like paper doves in flight I dreamed you had left my side / No warmth, not even pride remained And even though you needed me / It was clear that I could not do a thing for you Now life devalues day by day / As friends and neighbors turn away And there's a change that even with regret / Cannot be undone Now frontiers shift like desert sands / While nations wash their bloodied hands Of loyalty, of history / In shades of grey I woke to the sound of drums / The music played, the morning sun streamed in I turned and I looked at you / And all but the bitter residues slipped away slipped away...
Xinlo Posted March 23, 2012 Author Posted March 23, 2012 Pink Floyd is a pretty awesome progressive rock band, if this counts. They actually areprogressive, for instance Dark Side of the Moon, Wish You Were Here, and The Wall are examples of their progressive albums. People say these aren't progressive, although the whole point of progressive rock is an entire album of music sounding like an entire song, which is the point of these albums, if I'm not mistaken. People do disagree on this point, but, yeah, they are a progressive rock band.Progressive Rock isn't entirely about making albums as one song. That's definitely a common thing, but it's in the way the songs are made - odd time signatures, complex patterns, and such. Pink Floyd gets a bit progressive at times, but as a whole they're pretty... I dunno, I don't want to say "simple", but you don't hear a lot of the classic Prog elements, aside from length. But I personally believe they can still count as part of the genre, just not exactly one of the best examples. :PAlso I've not heard a whole lot from them, just two albums and a bit, so they may have more stuff that better fits the genre than I'm familiar with. Quote The Toa's Hideout is once again open for business! We've been gone for a few years, but now BIONICLE's back and so are we. Click the banner to check out our friendly and laid back site where you can discuss all manners of things and chill with awesome people.
Peach 00 Posted March 23, 2012 Posted March 23, 2012 Pink Floyd is a pretty awesome progressive rock band, if this counts. They actually areprogressive, for instance Dark Side of the Moon, Wish You Were Here, and The Wall are examples of their progressive albums. People say these aren't progressive, although the whole point of progressive rock is an entire album of music sounding like an entire song, which is the point of these albums, if I'm not mistaken. People do disagree on this point, but, yeah, they are a progressive rock band.Progressive Rock isn't entirely about making albums as one song. That's definitely a common thing, but it's in the way the songs are made - odd time signatures, complex patterns, and such. Pink Floyd gets a bit progressive at times, but as a whole they're pretty... I dunno, I don't want to say "simple", but you don't hear a lot of the classic Prog elements, aside from length. But I personally believe they can still count as part of the genre, just not exactly one of the best examples. :PAlso I've not heard a whole lot from them, just two albums and a bit, so they may have more stuff that better fits the genre than I'm familiar with.You need to listen to their song 'Echoes' then. That's a progressive song, in that case. Quote On the day the wall came down / They threw the locks onto the ground And with glasses high / We raised a cry / For freedom had arrived On the day the wall came down / The ship of fools had finally run aground Promises lit up the night / Like paper doves in flight I dreamed you had left my side / No warmth, not even pride remained And even though you needed me / It was clear that I could not do a thing for you Now life devalues day by day / As friends and neighbors turn away And there's a change that even with regret / Cannot be undone Now frontiers shift like desert sands / While nations wash their bloodied hands Of loyalty, of history / In shades of grey I woke to the sound of drums / The music played, the morning sun streamed in I turned and I looked at you / And all but the bitter residues slipped away slipped away...
Eeko Posted March 23, 2012 Posted March 23, 2012 I'd say that Dark Side of the Moon is a very progressive album. The Wall and Wish You Were Here, not so much. They have a much more straight rock feel.@Peach:What you're referring to is called a concept album. While it's very popular among prog rock bands, it is not the defining trait.Also, The Wall doesn't really count as a concept album, since it's a soundtrack. Quote
Tenebrae Invictus Posted March 26, 2012 Posted March 26, 2012 Very progressive? I didn't pick up anything really odd or complex in structure, other than Money being in 7/4 and 4/4, but that's it I guess. I'm not a musician, so sue me. Quote Up, down, turn around, please don't let me hit the ground
HeavyMetalSunshineSister Posted March 26, 2012 Posted March 26, 2012 Dark Side of the Moon was prog-ish, but only -ish. It has rather more in common with regular rock than it does with, say, King Crimson. Quote We will remember - Skies may fade and stars may wane; we won't forget And your light shines bright - yes so much brighter shine on We will remember - Until the skies will fall we won't forget We will remember We all shall follow doom
Tenebrae Invictus Posted March 31, 2012 Posted March 31, 2012 Animals is a more prog and IMO, better than Dark Side of the Moon. Quote Up, down, turn around, please don't let me hit the ground
Angel Beat Posted March 31, 2012 Posted March 31, 2012 Porcupine Tree. I <3 Fear of a Blank Planet. Quote ~Avatar's original image was made by the incomparable Egophiliac.~ ~Electronic Manic Supersonic Bionic Energy~~"If I am afraid of criticism, I won't be able to challenge anything new." - BoA~
Xinlo Posted April 1, 2012 Author Posted April 1, 2012 Are they rock or metal? Quote The Toa's Hideout is once again open for business! We've been gone for a few years, but now BIONICLE's back and so are we. Click the banner to check out our friendly and laid back site where you can discuss all manners of things and chill with awesome people.
Angel Beat Posted April 1, 2012 Posted April 1, 2012 The harder side of rock, iirc. Quote ~Avatar's original image was made by the incomparable Egophiliac.~ ~Electronic Manic Supersonic Bionic Energy~~"If I am afraid of criticism, I won't be able to challenge anything new." - BoA~
Xinlo Posted April 1, 2012 Author Posted April 1, 2012 Clean vocals or no? Quote The Toa's Hideout is once again open for business! We've been gone for a few years, but now BIONICLE's back and so are we. Click the banner to check out our friendly and laid back site where you can discuss all manners of things and chill with awesome people.
shadow pridak money gang Posted April 1, 2012 Posted April 1, 2012 Any fans of The Dear Hunter?-Teezy Quote ＳＡＹ ＩＴ ＯＮＥ ＭＯＲＥ ＴＩＭＥ ＴＥＬＬ ＭＥ ＷＨＡＴ ＩＳ ＯＮ ＹＯＵＲ ＭＩＮＤ
HeavyMetalSunshineSister Posted April 1, 2012 Posted April 1, 2012 Animals is a more prog and IMO, better than Dark Side of the Moon.Animals is definitely more prog than Dark Side of the Moon.Can someone please explain to me why so many people hate ELP and Yes? I was reading someone's list of five musicians that should be in the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame but aren't, and while neither ELP nor Yes were on the list, the inclusion of a prog band (Jethro Tull, in this case) caused people in the comments section to go nuts about how much they hate ELP and Yes. Quote We will remember - Skies may fade and stars may wane; we won't forget And your light shines bright - yes so much brighter shine on We will remember - Until the skies will fall we won't forget We will remember We all shall follow doom
Angel Beat Posted April 1, 2012 Posted April 1, 2012 (edited) Clean vocals or no?Oh yes, the vocals are clean alright. Edited April 1, 2012 by Valenti Quote ~Avatar's original image was made by the incomparable Egophiliac.~ ~Electronic Manic Supersonic Bionic Energy~~"If I am afraid of criticism, I won't be able to challenge anything new." - BoA~
Xinlo Posted April 1, 2012 Author Posted April 1, 2012 Awesome, I'll check them out.And I love Yes (banner lol) but from what I've heard ELP's not quite my thing. Granted, I've heard like 3 songs, none of which are their best apparently, but yeah. Quote The Toa's Hideout is once again open for business! We've been gone for a few years, but now BIONICLE's back and so are we. Click the banner to check out our friendly and laid back site where you can discuss all manners of things and chill with awesome people.
Tenebrae Invictus Posted April 1, 2012 Posted April 1, 2012 ELP and Yes are highly pretentious bands, as noted many times in history, and were quite the rivals (Ironically enough, the supergroup Asia has members from both in it). They are far from terrible, but I think that's why.There used to be that old joke:"How do you spell pretentious? E-L-P." Quote Up, down, turn around, please don't let me hit the ground
Legolover-361 Posted April 18, 2012 Posted April 18, 2012 (edited) Amidst other procurements, I acquired the album 2112 by Rush at the library tonight. I admittedly only got 2112 for its title track (and because my mom said Rush was a clean band, lol), but the rest of the album can't be that bad, right? Right? Edited April 21, 2012 by Legolover-361 Quote (( BZPRPG profiles: Kynaera, Nova ))
iPenguin Posted April 18, 2012 Posted April 18, 2012 I love rush.And Floyd is apparently also progressive.So I them too. Quote Majhost sucks
HeavyMetalSunshineSister Posted April 18, 2012 Posted April 18, 2012 Eh, Pink Floyd was only occasionally progressive rock, with them generally getting less prog over the years. Quote We will remember - Skies may fade and stars may wane; we won't forget And your light shines bright - yes so much brighter shine on We will remember - Until the skies will fall we won't forget We will remember We all shall follow doom
Tenebrae Invictus Posted April 18, 2012 Posted April 18, 2012 Amidst other procurements, I acquired the album 2112[/] by Rush at the library tonight. I admittedly only got 2112 for its title track (and because my mom said Rush was a clean band, lol), but the rest of the album can't be that bad, right? Right?Nope, the rest is decent. I have a distaste for Tears, but some people here like it. I don't really like The Twilight Zone either, but the other tracks are really good. Quote Up, down, turn around, please don't let me hit the ground
Xinlo Posted April 18, 2012 Author Posted April 18, 2012 In my opinion, 2112 is one of the most solid albums to exist. The title track is obviously the show-stealer, but the others are great catchy things aswell. Never get tired of hearing the record. Also bought Genesis' self titled on vinyl. It was after their prog days, it still retains a few elements and is just so great. Quote The Toa's Hideout is once again open for business! We've been gone for a few years, but now BIONICLE's back and so are we. Click the banner to check out our friendly and laid back site where you can discuss all manners of things and chill with awesome people.
Johnny Truant Posted April 18, 2012 Posted April 18, 2012 Tears is awful. Everything on 2112 is amazing, but Tears is just awful. Quote only in dreams.
Legolover-361 Posted April 18, 2012 Posted April 18, 2012 I actually like "Tears". It's not brilliant -- it's too cheesy-sounding to be that good -- but it has a pretty tune. Other than "2112" and "Tears", I've also listened to "A Passage to Bangkok", which is great. I have yet to listen to the remaining three songs. Quote (( BZPRPG profiles: Kynaera, Nova ))
Tenebrae Invictus Posted April 19, 2012 Posted April 19, 2012 You're missing out on the best tracks (and I mean Something For Nothing and Lessons) Quote Up, down, turn around, please don't let me hit the ground
Legolover-361 Posted April 20, 2012 Posted April 20, 2012 I like "2112" and "A Passage to Bangkok" better, honestly. :PI'm glad 2112 turned out to be a solid acquisition. I plan to listen to some of Yes's albums online; maybe some of them are at the library, too. Quote (( BZPRPG profiles: Kynaera, Nova ))
pls respond Posted April 20, 2012 Posted April 20, 2012 I actually like "Tears". It's not brilliant -- it's too cheesy-sounding to be that good -- but it has a pretty tune. Other than "2112" and "Tears", I've also listened to "A Passage to Bangkok", which is great. I have yet to listen to the remaining three songs.you're supposed to listen to albums in order what are you doing Quote
shadow pridak money gang Posted April 20, 2012 Posted April 20, 2012 I actually like "Tears". It's not brilliant -- it's too cheesy-sounding to be that good -- but it has a pretty tune. Other than "2112" and "Tears", I've also listened to "A Passage to Bangkok", which is great. I have yet to listen to the remaining three songs.you're supposed to listen to albums in order what are you doingDon't question his methods, your head will explode trying to figure them out.Trust me.-Teezy Quote ＳＡＹ ＩＴ ＯＮＥ ＭＯＲＥ ＴＩＭＥ ＴＥＬＬ ＭＥ ＷＨＡＴ ＩＳ ＯＮ ＹＯＵＲ ＭＩＮＤ
Xinlo Posted April 20, 2012 Author Posted April 20, 2012 (edited) I agree with the listening-in-order thing haha. Also if you're gonna' check out Yes, Fragile, Close To The Edge, and 90125 are musts. Granted, 90125 isn't really prog at all, but it's still a classic. Edited April 20, 2012 by A Pleasant Shade Of Xinlo Quote The Toa's Hideout is once again open for business! We've been gone for a few years, but now BIONICLE's back and so are we. Click the banner to check out our friendly and laid back site where you can discuss all manners of things and chill with awesome people.
HeavyMetalSunshineSister Posted April 20, 2012 Posted April 20, 2012 If at all possible, listen to a new album in the right order. The songs were put in that order for a reason. Quote We will remember - Skies may fade and stars may wane; we won't forget And your light shines bright - yes so much brighter shine on We will remember - Until the skies will fall we won't forget We will remember We all shall follow doom
Tenebrae Invictus Posted April 20, 2012 Posted April 20, 2012 I agree with the listening-in-order thing haha. Also if you're gonna' check out Yes, Fragile, Close To The Edge, and 90125 are musts. Granted, 90125 isn't really prog at all, but it's still a classic.The Yes Album, Fragile, Close to the Edge, Relayer, Drama, 90125 Quote Up, down, turn around, please don't let me hit the ground
Legolover-361 Posted April 20, 2012 Posted April 20, 2012 you're supposed to listen to albums in order what are you doingI agree with the listening-in-order thing haha.If at all possible, listen to a new album in the right order. The songs were put in that order for a reason.You guys are acting like I don't already do that. :PIn my defense, I listened to the first two songs on the album in order, then listened to "Tears" to see if it was as bad as people were saying, and listened to the remaining songs in order; I don't think I missed out on much. I wanted to be sure the album was decent before, say, burning it to a disk so I could listen on the radio.Nevertheless, I really should listen to the entire album in one sitting sometime soon.Don't question his methods, your head will explode trying to figure them out.Trust me.-Teezy...What's that supposed to mean?Also if you're gonna' check out Yes, Fragile, Close To The Edge, and 90125 are musts. Granted, 90125 isn't really prog at all, but it's still a classic.I was planning on listening to Fragile first, actually.About 90125... I'm not a big fan of the opening song, "Owner of a Lonely Heart", but I'll give the album a try nonetheless. Quote (( BZPRPG profiles: Kynaera, Nova ))
shadow pridak money gang Posted April 20, 2012 Posted April 20, 2012 Don't question his methods, your head will explode trying to figure them out.Trust me.-Teezy...What's that supposed to mean?.love you broski<3-Teezy Quote ＳＡＹ ＩＴ ＯＮＥ ＭＯＲＥ ＴＩＭＥ ＴＥＬＬ ＭＥ ＷＨＡＴ ＩＳ ＯＮ ＹＯＵＲ ＭＩＮＤ
Legolover-361 Posted April 20, 2012 Posted April 20, 2012 Don't question his methods, your head will explode trying to figure them out.Trust me.-Teezy...What's that supposed to mean?.love you broski<3-Teezy...What's that supposed to mean? Quote (( BZPRPG profiles: Kynaera, Nova ))
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