~Shockwave~ Posted July 9, 2012 Share Posted July 9, 2012 this has been bugging me for some time now.why where the characters faces hidden whenever their mask fell off? Quote 3DS Freind Code: 1693-0634-1082 Name: Joey I also have Mario Kart 7, Animal Crossing: New Leaf, Pokemon Y and Kid Icarus: Uprising PM me to add me. Steam profile Click here for the BZP Destiny Group Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zulu Yankee Kilo Echo Posted July 9, 2012 Share Posted July 9, 2012 My theory is that if you look at one of the characters' faces without their masks, you turn to stone :PSeriously though, that always bugged me, too. Maybe because the Lego Group didn't want to spend too much time and/or money modeling something that would barely be seen at all? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonesiii Posted July 9, 2012 Share Posted July 9, 2012 Can you give examples?Assuming this is accurate (although I don't remember any), probably they hadn't designed faces, or as Greg said on another issue, the masks are their faces in terms of what the producers wanted the audience to feel. Quote The Destiny of Bionicle (chronological retelling of Bionicle original series, 9 PDFs of 10 chapters each on Google Drive): Part 1 - Warring with Fate | Part 2 - Year of Change | Part 3 - The Exploration Trap | Part 4 - Rise of the Warlords | Part 5 - A Busy Matoran | Part 6 - The Dark Time | Part 7 - Proving Grounds | Part 8 - A Rude Awakening | Part 9 - The Battle of Giants My Bionicle Fanfiction (Google Drive folder, eventually planned to have PDFs of all of it) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~Shockwave~ Posted July 9, 2012 Author Share Posted July 9, 2012 its been awhile, but i remember in the first one, in a deleted scene, takua was playing kholii and had his mask knocked off. thats the nly one i can really remember right now. but i think there was a few more examples. Quote 3DS Freind Code: 1693-0634-1082 Name: Joey I also have Mario Kart 7, Animal Crossing: New Leaf, Pokemon Y and Kid Icarus: Uprising PM me to add me. Steam profile Click here for the BZP Destiny Group Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonesiii Posted July 9, 2012 Share Posted July 9, 2012 (edited) If it was a deleted scene, it was probably just deleted while still in the process of development and so they did not waste the money on doing the full CGI. This is very common in deleted scenes in DVD special features for movies. For example often greenscreen footage leaves the greenscreen in for those special features with live action movies. They have limited budgets so they save them for the scenes that will actually go into the movies. Edited July 9, 2012 by bonesiii Quote The Destiny of Bionicle (chronological retelling of Bionicle original series, 9 PDFs of 10 chapters each on Google Drive): Part 1 - Warring with Fate | Part 2 - Year of Change | Part 3 - The Exploration Trap | Part 4 - Rise of the Warlords | Part 5 - A Busy Matoran | Part 6 - The Dark Time | Part 7 - Proving Grounds | Part 8 - A Rude Awakening | Part 9 - The Battle of Giants My Bionicle Fanfiction (Google Drive folder, eventually planned to have PDFs of all of it) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~Shockwave~ Posted July 9, 2012 Author Share Posted July 9, 2012 (edited) i couldve sworn there was a few more cases of this....but i havn't seen those movies in a long time.the only one thats coming to mind is when takanuva switched his and makutas masksi just watched that scene, when makutas mask was removed there was a bright light obscuring his face. Edited July 9, 2012 by Wheeljack Quote 3DS Freind Code: 1693-0634-1082 Name: Joey I also have Mario Kart 7, Animal Crossing: New Leaf, Pokemon Y and Kid Icarus: Uprising PM me to add me. Steam profile Click here for the BZP Destiny Group Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonesiii Posted July 9, 2012 Share Posted July 9, 2012 Well, I remember an electric-like effect there. In the movies a zap-type effect was used as a visual representation of magnetism. Masks are meant to be held magnetically to faces. Also, all Matoran have a minor magnetic power in their hands; Takua used it at one point to attract his Kolhii staff to his hand; this looked like a zap too.So that effect makes story sense because of that movie rule; it shows that Makuta's mask was sticking magnetically to his face so it wasn't easy to pull it away. But it probably did intentionally serve the double purpose of concealing the face from the viewer, for the reason mentioned above.I don't specifically remember a "bright light" though. The zap effects were glowing, but I don't recall if the face was truly obscured. Some pics would be helpful. Quote The Destiny of Bionicle (chronological retelling of Bionicle original series, 9 PDFs of 10 chapters each on Google Drive): Part 1 - Warring with Fate | Part 2 - Year of Change | Part 3 - The Exploration Trap | Part 4 - Rise of the Warlords | Part 5 - A Busy Matoran | Part 6 - The Dark Time | Part 7 - Proving Grounds | Part 8 - A Rude Awakening | Part 9 - The Battle of Giants My Bionicle Fanfiction (Google Drive folder, eventually planned to have PDFs of all of it) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~Shockwave~ Posted July 9, 2012 Author Share Posted July 9, 2012 (edited) pics? that should be fun to find.... let me see what i can find.Capture by bumblecade, on Flickrthats a pretty definite flash of light. Edited July 9, 2012 by Wheeljack Quote 3DS Freind Code: 1693-0634-1082 Name: Joey I also have Mario Kart 7, Animal Crossing: New Leaf, Pokemon Y and Kid Icarus: Uprising PM me to add me. Steam profile Click here for the BZP Destiny Group Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuparu1995 Posted July 9, 2012 Share Posted July 9, 2012 Can you give examples?Assuming this is accurate (although I don't remember any), probably they hadn't designed faces, or as Greg said on another issue, the masks are their faces in terms of what the producers wanted the audience to feel.Yeah. The mask was associated with the character, supported by the fact that the Pakari, Hau, and Kaukau were only worn by three Matoran in MoL - the main characters Takua, Jaller, and Hahli, respectively, to help them stand out. And as for that, they probably hadn't developed a "face" for them, or maybe didn't want viewers to seen them without a Kanohi. Quote Nuparu1995 92% of teens have moved onto rap.If you are part of the 8% that still listen to real music, copy and paste this into your signature. R.I.P. - 7/20/2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~Shockwave~ Posted August 1, 2012 Author Share Posted August 1, 2012 from BS01When the Toa discover Turaga Dume asleep in a Matoran Sphere, he is still wearing his Noble Kiril, even though Teridax stole the mask months beforehand. This is because the animators were trying to avoid showing what a character looked like without a mask. Quote 3DS Freind Code: 1693-0634-1082 Name: Joey I also have Mario Kart 7, Animal Crossing: New Leaf, Pokemon Y and Kid Icarus: Uprising PM me to add me. Steam profile Click here for the BZP Destiny Group Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axilus Prime Posted August 1, 2012 Share Posted August 1, 2012 Yep. It's rather annoying, actually. That would have been so cool to see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~Shockwave~ Posted August 1, 2012 Author Share Posted August 1, 2012 yup, i would've liked to see that. Quote 3DS Freind Code: 1693-0634-1082 Name: Joey I also have Mario Kart 7, Animal Crossing: New Leaf, Pokemon Y and Kid Icarus: Uprising PM me to add me. Steam profile Click here for the BZP Destiny Group Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toatapio Nuva Posted August 1, 2012 Share Posted August 1, 2012 They wanted to keep the faces a secret. It was related to the feel of mystery they tried to retain even in the newer Bionicle films. Quote My BZPRPG profiles - Viima, Lai Lai Kirgan, Jarkale, Hile, Tuli + Kavala, Khervos, Thira Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zestanor Posted August 1, 2012 Share Posted August 1, 2012 Here are some shots of when they hid their heads.http://www.majhost.com/gallery/Zestanor/Screenshots/vlcsnap-1325384.png (This first one is in 4:3 because it is a rip of my VHS.)http://www.majhost.com/gallery/Zestanor/Screenshots/vlcsnap-1326606.pnghttp://www.majhost.com/gallery/Zestanor/Screenshots/vlcsnap-1327520.png Quote Has following the story become too complex? Look no further:How to Follow BIONICLEA Simple, chronological checklistUPDATE May 22 2013: Every is now color coded!Contains every bit of content, organized by story year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron Von Nebula Posted August 1, 2012 Share Posted August 1, 2012 from BS01When the Toa discover Turaga Dume asleep in a Matoran Sphere, he is still wearing his Noble Kiril, even though Teridax stole the mask months beforehand. This is because the animators were trying to avoid showing what a character looked like without a mask.Another reason could be to make Dume recognizable as himself, as the Kiril is his "face".It also kind-of made sense not to show Makuta's face, as it is antidermis.I have no possible explanation for the others, except to not have to animate the faces. Quote Read my comedy, about the Hero Factory villains watching a television channel produced by our Spherus Magnan friends!The Bionicle Channel "I expect that when I write my next entry in this chronicle, I will be writing as uncontested ruler of the Brotherhood."-Certainty, my Memoirs of the Dead entry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Click Posted August 1, 2012 Share Posted August 1, 2012 Although, from the Jaller face, we can assume what they look like. Quote ~ Corpus Rahkshi: Fang | Hoto | Tube | Tear | Canvas | Garrotte | Reda BZPRPG: Azusai | Mitsuri The Scarabax Library | Flickr | Deviantart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~Shockwave~ Posted August 1, 2012 Author Share Posted August 1, 2012 there is enough shown that we can infer, but we may never know what they looked like. Quote 3DS Freind Code: 1693-0634-1082 Name: Joey I also have Mario Kart 7, Animal Crossing: New Leaf, Pokemon Y and Kid Icarus: Uprising PM me to add me. Steam profile Click here for the BZP Destiny Group Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cederak Posted August 3, 2012 Share Posted August 3, 2012 there is enough shown that we can infer, but we may never know what they looked like.It can probably be assumed that they planned to use something similar to the faces of the Toa Mata sets (or Toa Metru in the case of Bionicle 2), but for their own reasons, didn't show that.-Ced Quote Cederak's Library l Blog: Fair Enough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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