fishers64 Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 (edited) Or is there simply a lot of power in it? Do you think the power in things like the Mask of Life will eventually run out? Edited November 24, 2012 by fishers64 Quote Hero Factory RPG | Bionicle Mafia XXIX: Storyline & Theories Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonesiii Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 I think it's something like solar panels; it absorbs energy from surroundings IMO. Could be wrong though. Quote The Destiny of Bionicle (chronological retelling of Bionicle original series, 9 PDFs of 10 chapters each on Google Drive): Part 1 - Warring with Fate | Part 2 - Year of Change | Part 3 - The Exploration Trap | Part 4 - Rise of the Warlords | Part 5 - A Busy Matoran | Part 6 - The Dark Time | Part 7 - Proving Grounds | Part 8 - A Rude Awakening | Part 9 - The Battle of Giants My Bionicle Fanfiction (Google Drive folder, eventually planned to have PDFs of all of it) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erebus Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 I'm going to assume that Mask of Life is an example:12) Can a Toa, or any other Kanohi-able being activate a mask's power as often as they need to, say a Hau in combat, or does it mentally tax them each time they do so, and so they would only have a certain number of times they could use the power?12) The mask can be used until its power runs out, which might be many, many years. But you have to maintain concentration to use it, so if you are tired or battered or distracted, you won't be able to make it work.12) So does that mean that a mask has a certain amount of energy, and the more you use it, the more it drains it's power sort of like a battery?12) Yes.In my opinion, I would say Protodermis does run out of power. Doubtful that anything in the Matoran Universe can run forever or contain its power indefinitely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katuko Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 Judging by what we've seen, though, a Toa can wear his mask for thousands of years and not need a replacement. I think it is safe to say that even though a mask can run out, it does not do so in a way that would make anyone carry "spare batteries".It raises the question, though, of how a mask that is running low on power will actually behave. Will it see the effect of its power gradually reduced, or will it just shut straight off when it finally runs out? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wordmeister Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 Maybe kanohi recharge when not in use. Or they recharge when in use, like a car battery. Quote Rock Bottom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toa of Nerds Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 If there is a power limit to protodermis, then it's a very large amount. Keep in mind that this stuff has been sitting around inside of Mata-Nui for thousands of years, and it still works just fine.-don't touch my pockert protector Quote Three great comedies at one low, low price....NOTHING! Kicking the Bucket (archived)Three late-middle age matoran think of something they want to do before they kick the bucket. Choose Your Own Bionicle Adventure (archived)Navigate your way through a myriad of meaningless choices as you try to not make a fool of yourself in perhaps the only comedy ever written almost entirely in spoiler tags. Useless BZP Junk that you Must Have!!!Get to your phone, whip out your credit card, and prepare to buy some useless BZPower related junk that has no benefit on society except that you want it!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katuko Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 It's likely that it does something similar to what bonesiii suggested: pull power from the environment somehow. Since everything in the MU is made of protodermis, and Toa and different special powers can apparently convert things between solid matter and energy, I'd not be surprised if the protodermis is capable of being charged from any kind of latent energy like the sun or electromagnetic fields; in addition to its immense internal storage. It might be that a mask that runs out of power does so simply from wear and tear (the protodermis itself finally being somewhat destabilized by excessive power channeling), not a lack of energy per se. A meltdown and reconstruction (recycling) of the molecules would make the proto ready for use again, but as well all know melting a Kanohi causes a lot of power to leak into the environment instead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taipu1 Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 (edited) Maybe kanohi recharge when not in use. Or they recharge when in use, like a car battery.If I could be pedantic for a moment ( ), a car battery doesn't necessarily charge when the battery is in use. Its charged by the alternator which uses the engine to charge the battery. I don't think anything could recharge off itself while using energy as well, there has to be an external input.My over enthusiasm for picking holes in a perfectly innocent analogy aside, I think Gregs quotes provided by Erebus seem pretty black and white on this subject, perhaps, like batteries its possible to recharge them, but it would probably require proactivity in doing so, I highly doubt it does it automatically. Edited November 22, 2012 by Taipu1 Quote - Taipu1.HighFly MatoranShowdownBZPRPG ProfilesHave you seen my Blog? I understand if you haven't Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wordmeister Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 Maybe kanohi recharge when not in use. Or they recharge when in use, like a car battery.If I could be pedantic for a moment ( ), a car battery doesn't necessarily charge when the battery is in use. Its charged by the alternator which uses the engine to charge the battery. I don't think anything could recharge off itself while using energy as well, there has to be an external input.My over enthusiasm for picking holes in a perfectly innocent analogy aside, I think Gregs quotes provided by Erebus seem pretty black and white on this subject, perhaps, like batteries its possible to recharge them, but it would probably require proactivity in doing so, I highly doubt it does it automaticallyIt was just a theory.Maybe the kanohi is fueled by it's wearer's power. That would explain why Matoran can't use them but Toa and Makuta can. Quote Rock Bottom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dual Cee Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 Maybe kanohi recharge when not in use. Or they recharge when in use, like a car battery.If I could be pedantic for a moment ( ), a car battery doesn't necessarily charge when the battery is in use. Its charged by the alternator which uses the engine to charge the battery. I don't think anything could recharge off itself while using energy as well, there has to be an external input.My over enthusiasm for picking holes in a perfectly innocent analogy aside, I think Gregs quotes provided by Erebus seem pretty black and white on this subject, perhaps, like batteries its possible to recharge them, but it would probably require proactivity in doing so, I highly doubt it does it automaticallyIt was just a theory.Maybe the kanohi is fueled by it's wearer's power. That would explain why Matoran can't use them but Toa and Makuta can. I would go with this theory it takes power from the mind of the user. Like vakama and tahu being exhaused after using the vahi Quote I'm back! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Constructelf Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 But it would have to have some innate power of its own. You know, noble and great masks? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wordmeister Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 (edited) But it would have to have some innate power of its own. You know, noble and great masks?Maybe each mask has a limit to how much power it can absorb. But since Turaga are weaker than Toa and Makuta, that may not be necessary. Edited November 22, 2012 by DeltaStriker Quote Rock Bottom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Makuta Matata Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 I'd say it would run out, but not for a very, very long time. Also, I think you meant *there. XD Quote Three on Three - Memoirs of the Dead - Winner!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishers64 Posted November 24, 2012 Author Share Posted November 24, 2012 It is confirmed that mental abilities control the use of masks, not the wearers' powers. When the Toa Nuva lost their elemental powers they were still able to use Great Kanohi. Quote Hero Factory RPG | Bionicle Mafia XXIX: Storyline & Theories Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dual Cee Posted November 24, 2012 Share Posted November 24, 2012 It is confirmed that mental abilities control the use of masks, not the wearers' powers. When the Toa Nuva lost their elemental powers they were still able to use Great Kanohi.Yes thats why I meant mental energy, a mind needs energy too... Quote I'm back! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katuko Posted November 24, 2012 Share Posted November 24, 2012 It is confirmed that mental abilities control the use of masks, not the wearers' powers. When the Toa Nuva lost their elemental powers they were still able to use Great Kanohi.Well, yes, the mask's function gets triggered by focusing mentally, and the more powerful masks require greater focus to keep in control over the power. However, remember that a mask also keeps its user awake (such as with the Matoran) and it has been confirmed that a mask can potentially run out of energy after several thousand years worth of use. The Ignika and Vahi definitely contain energies within them that can leak; and in the mask-making process of Ta-Metru a few levels worth of Kanoka disk power leaks out. Evidently there is energy in the mask itself that helps shape the power when it is triggered.We are just wondering what this energy would be, exactly, and if it lasts so long because it's being auto-charged by external forces or if it's simply the Protodermis itself that contains a lot or alternately uses extremely little of it at a time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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