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#1 Offline bohrokmaster

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Posted Nov 19 2012 - 06:19 AM

In Bionicle 2: Legends of Metru Nui, there was a scene where Turaga Dume was talking to Makuta Teridax but when the Toa Metru arrived at the Coliseum, Turaga Dume reveals his true identity (Makuta Teridax) Did Teridax betray Turaga Dume and put him in a Matoran sphere/ pod?
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Posted Nov 19 2012 - 06:37 AM

Yeah, that was an inconsistency that confused me to no end.Maybe he talks to himself.
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Posted Nov 19 2012 - 07:28 AM

Actually, if you read the novelization it was Makuta talking into a mirror.
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Posted Nov 19 2012 - 09:43 AM

I always used to think that it was Makuta communicating to another member of the BoM, (as alluded to later when he tells Vakama to "join my brothers and me"), but apparently according to the novelization its just an image of himself in the mirror, because for some reason mirrors reflect what Teridax really is.
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Posted Nov 19 2012 - 01:13 PM

Yeah, it was described as a shadowy mirror that showed a reflection of Teridax's true self. Although there was a part in that part of the novelization that confused me. It says that he stepped into the mirror at one point, which just made no sense to me.Posted Image
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Posted Nov 19 2012 - 01:31 PM

Yeah, it was described as a shadowy mirror that showed a reflection of Teridax's true self. Although there was a part in that part of the novelization that confused me. It says that he stepped into the mirror at one point, which just made no sense to me.Posted Image

Probably just an error on Greg's part.

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Posted Nov 19 2012 - 01:51 PM

Yeah, it was described as a shadowy mirror that showed a reflection of Teridax's true self. Although there was a part in that part of the novelization that confused me. It says that he stepped into the mirror at one point, which just made no sense to me.Posted Image

I remember the mirror as being water.

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Posted Nov 19 2012 - 02:42 PM

I always used to think that it was Makuta communicating to another member of the BoM, (as alluded to later when he tells Vakama to "join my brothers and me"), but apparently according to the novelization its just an image of himself in the mirror, because for some reason mirrors reflect what Teridax really is.

That actually would have been really interesting if they'd done that. With not just one pair of eyes, but like twenty to show that Teridax/Dume was speaking to the entire Brotherhood.

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Posted Nov 19 2012 - 03:20 PM

He was talking into some mirror, if I remember. It looked like a puddle.
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Posted Nov 19 2012 - 04:48 PM

If I remember correctly, Teridax was talking to a "mirror" of liquid Protodermis, which for some reason reflected his true nature. Dume was never aligned with Teridax, though, at any point after the Brotherhood's rebellion.
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Posted Nov 19 2012 - 05:06 PM

From several posts, I take it was a mirror in the books. Never had much interest in 2004-2005, but I know enough. I thought that in the beginning Turaga Dume was just threatened by Teridax or something. Then, maybe, it wasn't enough anymore, so Teridax possessed him. I think this, movie-wise, deserves a big shrug. :shrugs: :shrugs: Also, just found this emoticon. Found it worth sharing. :rollaway:
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Posted Nov 20 2012 - 03:51 PM

my next question is about Turaga dume. Is he a wicked (evil ) Turaga? Because I'm a little confused about his character.

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Posted Nov 20 2012 - 04:05 PM

C'mon people the half of your questions are answered at BS01, that mirror thing is interesting but the allignement with teridax, really?No offence .

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Posted Nov 20 2012 - 04:21 PM

C'mon people the half of your questions are answered at BS01, that mirror thing is interesting but the allignement with teridax, really?No offence .

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Posted Nov 20 2012 - 04:25 PM

It was a mirror. The scene was emphasizing that the Makuta was behind the plot without revealing he was Dume.
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Posted Nov 20 2012 - 04:32 PM

And remember the movies aren't canon, they just have too look cool
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Posted Nov 20 2012 - 04:48 PM

And remember the movies aren't canon, they just have too look cool

Movies are canon, they just have some artistic differences.

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Posted Nov 20 2012 - 04:53 PM

The second one has some BIG artistic differences, poor morbuzahk(don't mind spelling), but yeah you must keep in mind that films have to look cool, stories don't mind that off-course
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Posted Nov 20 2012 - 05:03 PM

The second one has some BIG artistic differences, poor morbuzahk(don't mind spelling), but yeah you must keep in mind that films have to look cool, stories don't mind that off-course

The Morbuzahk wasn't included because it would have made the movie about 2 hours longer, and they really just skipped over how they got the disks, as we already knew how that happened. But yeah, the films were mostly meant to look cool in some aspects.

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Posted Nov 20 2012 - 05:18 PM

Technically, it was. All it did though was have Vakama hanging upside-down.
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Posted Nov 20 2012 - 11:24 PM

my next question is about Turaga dume. Is he a wicked (evil ) Turaga? Because I'm a little confused about his character or his personality.

No, he's not evil, just discouraged and and a bit misguided.

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Posted Nov 21 2012 - 12:07 AM

How was he misguided?
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Posted Nov 21 2012 - 12:14 AM

How was he misguided?

In 2006, he was in favor of "rolling over and playing dead" instead of sending Matoran to investigate what happened to the Nuva. He suffered from an "all is lost" mentality instead of actually trying to find the Nuva and figure out what was going on. He was too used to relying on Toa for help, and as such he believed that only Toa could save the universe or do anything to help save it.

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Posted Nov 21 2012 - 12:27 AM

I recall he was talking to a mirror of some sort.And on Dume's allegiance? He's pretty much a tired old guy who has been through too much, and feels that he isn't able to keep up with his responsibilities.
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