Linsanity

I'm just glad that we can at least link to the images.

Huh? I've never argued with you about the staff.

And what in the world does that have to do with this blog entry?

KtB saying "don't say bad things about the staff theyre the perfectest")

When did I say that?

But yeah I agree with the rest of your post.

*Raises an eyebrow*

 

So let me get this straight. We both agree that whatever you think I said makes no sense (not even grammatically), but you still ask me what I meant by it? I really think you must have misunderstood something (despite my explanation).

No, you didn't agree, you clearly said:

I'm not sure where you drew the idea

So it's obvious that you are blaming it on me. And what did I misunderstand? And what explanation?

Again, no, you're just adding subtext into my words that don't exist. I never said that Lego will, do anything; I'm saying that it is very likely to happen.

"If you support HF, yes it will increase the likelihood of Bionicle's return."

 

How do you know it that supporting Hero Factory won't decrease the likelihood of BIONICLE's return? I would say that supporting Hero Factory "may" increase the likelihood of BIONICLE's return, but not even that is certain.

Like I said before (and you too apparently), it's an educated guess. And why would supporting HF decrease the likelihood? Go read Bonesiii's topic on Bionicle's chance of coming back.

And tell me, what's wrong with educated guesses?

Nothing, given the right context. Why do you ask?

Additionally, read this press release. They mentioned high profits, yeah?

 

Not that I can see. Unless you mean this press release (which I have read before ). As you can see, they don't meantion Hero Factory at all. Just that profits increased by 5.9% by the end of 2010. It vaguely attributes the increase in sales to LEGO City, LEGO DUPLO, LEGO Star Wars, the new board games, and LEGO Universe to a limited extent.

In response to your last part, let me provide a quote from Laughin'Man:

 

They're completely missing the point of the Greg quote they continually use - "If Star Trek fans had stopped talking about it, it never would've come back", to paraphrase - which is simply to keep discussion and interest in BIONICLE alive, not to go on some silly mission.

Not sure why we should take Laughin'Man's interpretation this. We have Greg's:

. . . What I am actually implying is that if there is no fan sentiment being expressed for it at all, it definitely WON'T come back. The only reason LEGO would have to bring it back down the line is if they feel there is an audience out there for it. If the fan community just dries up and blows away, then the prevailing notion will be that no one is interested enough to support its return.

But out of curiosity, what do you consider "some silly mission"?

Not sure why we should take Greg's interpretation on this, so in response to that quote, I will provide a quote from Laughin'Man (yes it is the same quote):

They're completely missing the point of the Greg quote they continually use - "If Star Trek fans had stopped talking about it, it never would've come back", to paraphrase - which is simply to keep discussion and interest in BIONICLE alive, not to go on some silly mission.

By "some silly mission", you'd better ask LM himself, although I think he probably means that clubs and petitions won't help. The two words "showing interest" don't automatically translate into "making clubs and petitions."

The only ones who are limiting themselves are you guys, because all you're doing is making petitions as if it were the only way to bring back Bionicle. There's other ways too y'know, like supporting HF.

Curious that you feal this way. I, for one, do not believe that making petitions is the only way to bring back BIONICLE. I do, however, believe it is a way. A contributing factor. A way of showing continued interest.

 

BTW, not everyone agrees that supporting Hero Factory is the only possible way BIONICLE could come back. Let us look at another possible scinerio:

 

Hero Factory does not sell as well as BIONICLE (which may be the case right now unless anyone has some sales figures to tell us one way or the other). BIONICLE made more money. In a business, more money is more money. So what do you do? Keep going with something that isn't selling as well, even after a few years of trying to improve upon it, or go back to what was selling better?

 

I'm certainly not saying that supporting Hero Factory to a certain extent won't help bring back BIONICLE, you just might not want to assume that it's the only way.

If you feel that it's not the only way, then why on Earth don't you use other ways?

Do I and others not? How are you sure you're not stereotyping us? And what "other ways" do you advocate?

How is that "stereotyping"?

Furthermore, when you ask a question you could use the teeniest, tiniest fraction of brainpower; the brainpower that tells you Dorek just answered your question ("what other ways do you advocate?") before your post.

Do you have any evidence that HF isn't selling as well as Bionicle? Besides, it's only been around for what? Like a year?

 

So yeah, saying that HF doesn't sell as well as Bionicle (which I am still looking for proof) is an invalid argument.

Just that it seems to me there would have been a bigger increase in sales than 5.9% especially considering the success of 2 new market areas (board games and an MMOG).

 

But until LEGO tells us one way or the other (which they may never do, I sure wouldn't if I were LEGO), I don't see "Hero Factory doesn't sell as well as BIONICLE" or the inverse as a valid "argument". That's why I didn't use it as one. I said it's a possible scenario that, if true (which it may be), would suggest the exact opposite of the popular belief (at least among those who like Hero Factory) that Hero Factory's success may help bring back BIONICLE.

I see, thanks for clarifying then.

I don't see how Lego is limiting themselves by not supporting your clubs.

To be honest, I'm not sure where you drew the idea that LEGO is somehow limiting themselves by not supporting some clubs. I'm mean really, what does that even mean???

No, that's what you said, so don't try making a masterpiece of flawed logic and blaming it on me.

So let me ask you: To be honest, I'm not sure where you drew the idea that LEGO is somehow limiting themselves by not supporting some clubs. I mean really, what does that even mean???

Let us recap:

If you support HF, yes it will increase the likelihood of Bionicle's return.

 

But if you don't support it and keep shoving your clubs into Lego's face...

 

...yeah, you can pretty much kiss any chance of success in bringing back Bionicle goodbye.

So absolute. You really think LEGO limits themselves that way?

You make these absolute statements that LEGO will do this if we do [this]. Not even LEGO has gone around making such definative proclamations. Unless you happen to be in complete control of The LEGO Group (unlikely ) these are just educated guesses at best. I'm sure LEGO knows better than to make such absolute decisions as "If Hero Factory doesn't sell well, we'll never go back to BIONICLE.". Why? Because future interest can be difficult to predict and BIONICLE represented a multi-million dollar share of LEGO's profits.

 

As Greg Farshtey stated, continued interest in BIONICLE is necessary for LEGO to consider bringing BIONICLE back. As it so happens, clubs for BIONICLE's return, show continued interest.

Again, no, you're just adding subtext into my words that don't exist. I never said that Lego will, do anything; I'm saying that it is very likely to happen. And tell me, what's wrong with educated guesses?

Additionally, read this press release. They mentioned high profits, yeah?

In response to your last part, let me provide a quote from Laughin'Man:

They're completely missing the point of the Greg quote they continually use - "If Star Trek fans had stopped talking about it, it never would've come back", to paraphrase - which is simply to keep discussion and interest in BIONICLE alive, not to go on some silly mission.

The only ones who are limiting themselves are you guys, because all you're doing is making petitions as if it were the only way to bring back Bionicle. There's other ways too y'know, like supporting HF.

Curious that you feal this way. I, for one, do not believe that making petitions is the only way to bring back BIONICLE. I do, however, believe it is a way. A contributing factor. A way of showing continued interest.

 

BTW, not everyone agrees that supporting Hero Factory is the only possible way BIONICLE could come back. Let us look at another possible scinerio:

 

Hero Factory does not sell as well as BIONICLE (which may be the case right now unless anyone has some sales figures to tell us one way or the other). BIONICLE made more money. In a business, more money is more money. So what do you do? Keep going with something that isn't selling as well, even after a few years of trying to improve upon it, or go back to what was selling better?

 

I'm certainly not saying that supporting Hero Factory to a certain extent won't help bring back BIONICLE, you just might not want to assume that it's the only way.

If you feel that it's not the only way, then why on Earth don't you use other ways?

BTW, I never said the supporting HF was the only way. Again, adding subtext that doesn't exist and shoving it into my mouth.

Do you have any evidence that HF isn't selling as well as Bionicle? Besides, it's only been around for what? Like a year?

So yeah, saying that HF doesn't sell as well as Bionicle (which I am still looking for proof) is an invalid argument.

A CLUB ABOUT BRINGING BACK BIONICLE THAT'S NOT A PETITION?!! WHAT ON EARTH IS THIS?!!

But yeah sign me up. B)

From BS01:

Teridax banished the mask and Mata Nui into outer space, to prevent the Great Spirit from returning, and to save his newly gained body from obliteration by the Ignika.

So yeah, he didn't really care where it landed nor did he intend for MN to land in Bara Magna; the Ignika presumably landed there itself by chance.

Good theory nonetheless.

I don't see how Lego is limiting themselves by not supporting your clubs.

The only ones who are limiting themselves are you guys, because all you're doing is making petitions as if it were the only way to bring back Bionicle. There's other ways too y'know, like supporting HF.

*Applauds*

DV, this is exactly why you're an awesome staffie. What you said here is definitely worth applause.

If you support HF, yes it will increase the likelihood of Bionicle's return.

But if you don't support it and keep shoving your clubs into Lego's face...

...yeah, you can pretty much kiss any chance of success in bringing back Bionicle goodbye.

Credit to me for the idea of making it the Dropship pilot. =D

 

Right?

What on Earth do you mean

Nah, I was just joking. lol

But you know what you really need to do?

DROPSHIP 2.0

OH YES.

Credit to me for the idea of making it the Dropship pilot. =D

Right?

Me jelly. :angry:

BTW, is that the Dropship pilot (by any chance?)

I'm no expert on Majhost, but is there a way to contact the admin/manager on Maj?

No.

Another moderator?

There's gotta be another admin.

As far as I know, he doesn't laugh; instead, he makes other people laugh.

Including me.

But you're still awesome bro. B)

Sorry if that was directed at me.

Kopaka the Bunny:

 

That would have been pretty cool. In fact, I would have liked to see all the Toa Mata as STARS, as maybe a sort of 'special edition' set.

 

Elmara

Yeah, new and improved weapons would be awesome, especially Kopaka's sword. Avtoran head recolors would also be sweet. B)

I would love a Kopaka Mata stars set.

I love it (and I commented on it in the topic.)

It really reminds me of Embo.

You are all wrong.

The answer is because the Vahi took over them.

Yeah, I think I want to be a story archiver too. Just sayin'.

What is HF01?

 

It is the letters 'H' and 'F', with '01' right next to it.

01 is not a letter, silly.

No, I said that H and F were. (But sorry if I mislead you.)