Wotz Posted August 1, 2012 Posted August 1, 2012 My leveling has slowed to a crawl, since I now have level 100 One-Handed and that's the one skill I use the most (other than Block and Heavy Armour). I've been using stuff like Smithing and Speech to actually gain experience.I should totally start using magic.On a different note, I found Shalidor's 'Maze' (heavy emphasis on those inverted commas) really quite underwhelming. It was just a long walk and some Skeevers really, aside from the five second fight against a Dremora at the end. Quote D U N E W O L F
Havelock Vetinari Posted August 1, 2012 Posted August 1, 2012 Heads up, I'm getting Morrowind GOTY edition quite soon, maybe even by Friday. If I vanish off the face of the Earth for more then two weeks, send out a search party. I'm running out of food and water and unable to provide them for myself. Quote I believe you find life such a problem because you think there are the good people and the bad people. You are wrong, of course. There are, always and only, the bad people, but some of them are on opposite sides.
Wotz Posted August 1, 2012 Posted August 1, 2012 I'm running out of food and water and unable to provide them for myself. I'll donate a sweetroll or three.Totally not stolen. Quote D U N E W O L F
BenLuke Posted August 1, 2012 Posted August 1, 2012 (edited) ^^ I should get Morrowind.I plan on completing the game without mods first, thanks (And by complete I mean finish the main quest and the civil quest, which is going to take a while since I've been focusing on other stuff, like collecting Daedric Artifacts.).I should totally start using magic.Yes, you should. Non-magic combat in Elder Scrolls is pretty dull, in my experience. Hence why I usually play spellsword type guys. Edited August 1, 2012 by BenLuke-116 Quote BZPRPG Profiles
Toa Levacius Zehvor Posted August 1, 2012 Posted August 1, 2012 Even Alduin can be defeated by Potions of... hmm. Don't remember the Destruction.I do know Snowberries and Hawk Beak combined with Bone Meal, Dragons Tongue, or like twenty other things can make a Potion of Resist Elements (Fire, Frost, and Shock).@ Wotz; Not very labyrinthian, was it? (see wut I did there)@ Basilisk; Just keep water with you and you can make it for a few weeks.-Toa Levacius Zehvor Quote "I disapprove of what you have to say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it." - Evelyn Beatrice Hall (often attributed to Voltaire)
Wotz Posted August 1, 2012 Posted August 1, 2012 Non-magic combat in Elder Scrolls is pretty dull, in my experience.I dunno, charging into Skuldafn, cutting through Draugr and shield bashing them off a bridge or whatever I was running across as Dragons flew overhead and the theme song blared was probably my favourite moment in the main quest (other than Paathurnax existing; blimey I love that guy), and it wouldn't be the same if I had just blasted everything into oblivion. I prefer lengthy swordfights to burning/freezing/electrocuting everything @Lev: Har-de-har har. Quote D U N E W O L F
BenLuke Posted August 1, 2012 Posted August 1, 2012 (edited) Eh. Skyrim's hand-to-hand mechanics is simplistic and pretty bland, frankly. Which is way I'm hoping they'll incorporate something something along the lines of Mount & Blade's combat system into Elder Scrolls 6.Like they'd ever do that. Edited August 1, 2012 by BenLuke-116 Quote BZPRPG Profiles
Archer Vonn Posted August 2, 2012 Posted August 2, 2012 Spellswords are fun even if they have a stupid name. Restoration is incredibly valuable against dragons. Quote 3DS: 3711-9364-3152 PSN: AidecVoros
Toa Levacius Zehvor Posted August 2, 2012 Posted August 2, 2012 @ BenLuke; Don't mention ES6 unless you want me tossing theories around and going berserk. @ ~JC~; So is not getting hit and hyper-high armor class. But I guess Restoration is fun too.@ Wotz; You echo my sentiments. But I'm versatile. I'm willing to go amongst a camp and electrocute everybody, or just sneak through and butcher them, or send summons after them, or illusion them to be crazy, or use a bow, or charge in two-handed, or just shout at the sky and make lightning bolts rain down on everything. Versatility.-Toa Levacius Zehvor Quote "I disapprove of what you have to say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it." - Evelyn Beatrice Hall (often attributed to Voltaire)
Archer Vonn Posted August 2, 2012 Posted August 2, 2012 Hard to not get hit as a melee character. Quote 3DS: 3711-9364-3152 PSN: AidecVoros
Toa Levacius Zehvor Posted August 2, 2012 Posted August 2, 2012 (edited) Hard to not get hit as a melee character. Blocking and a hyper-high armor class. Not getting hit is mage stuff.-Toa Levacius Zehvor Edited August 2, 2012 by Toa Levacius Zehvor Quote "I disapprove of what you have to say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it." - Evelyn Beatrice Hall (often attributed to Voltaire)
Mare Tranquillitatis Posted August 2, 2012 Posted August 2, 2012 Hard to not get hit as a melee character. Blocking and a hyper-high armor class. Not getting hit is mage stuff.-Toa Levacius Zehvor Yup. With my Daedric Armor I've been able to block for half an hour, and I didn't get any damage.However, I'm more fitting with a stealthy-assassin character. Mages are too weak, in my opinion, unless you bring all their abilities up to a high level. Warriors have no chance against mages. Those stupid necromancers. Everytime I find them, ZAAP!; ZAAP!, two or three lightning bolts and I'm gone. Ask my Orc character. Instead, walking behind them with a nice dagger and cutting their throath... Ah, so satisfying.Sneaky characters, in my opinion, are best used for beginners. Then, once you reach decent amounts of health, stamina and magicka, you can start focusing on other tipes of fighting, just like I'm doing with my Nord character. Quote
Toa Levacius Zehvor Posted August 2, 2012 Posted August 2, 2012 Hard to not get hit as a melee character. Blocking and a hyper-high armor class. Not getting hit is mage stuff.-Toa Levacius Zehvor Yup. With my Daedric Armor I've been able to block for half an hour, and I didn't get any damage.However, I'm more fitting with a stealthy-assassin character. Mages are too weak, in my opinion, unless you bring all their abilities up to a high level. Warriors have no chance against mages. Those stupid necromancers. Everytime I find them, ZAAP!; ZAAP!, two or three lightning bolts and I'm gone. Ask my Orc character. Instead, walking behind them with a nice dagger and cutting their throath... Ah, so satisfying.Sneaky characters, in my opinion, are best used for beginners. Then, once you reach decent amounts of health, stamina and magicka, you can start focusing on other tipes of fighting, just like I'm doing with my Nord character.The Lord Stone is your friend. That and a few enchanted items for resist magic... bam. Mages look up. Then down. Then they run and cast more spells with their ward up. Then you shout Marked for Death at them. Then you close in. Then you one shot them with you Daedric Sword.I can't prove it, but I think that Resist Magic also works against Dragon Shouts too, so those pesky Ancient Dragons have no luck either.-Toa Levacius Zevhor Quote "I disapprove of what you have to say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it." - Evelyn Beatrice Hall (often attributed to Voltaire)
BenLuke Posted August 2, 2012 Posted August 2, 2012 Even if destruction is underpowered, Fire Rune is a fun spell, if only for the Order of the Stick references."I prepared explosive runes this morning" BOOM! Quote BZPRPG Profiles
Havelock Vetinari Posted August 2, 2012 Posted August 2, 2012 (edited) However, I'm more fitting with a stealthy-assassin character. Mages are too weak, in my opinion, unless you bring all their abilities up to a high level.Alteration + Mage Armor + Daedra Shield Wall = "OHGODSRUN!" Edited August 2, 2012 by Basilisk Quote I believe you find life such a problem because you think there are the good people and the bad people. You are wrong, of course. There are, always and only, the bad people, but some of them are on opposite sides.
Toa Levacius Zehvor Posted August 2, 2012 Posted August 2, 2012 Knowing how the armor rating works, my Stealth character can deal about 1600 or so damage with a double dagger strike in stealth. My main character, only a few levels higher, with all of his enchantments, has about 700 HP and 80% resist damage from maxed armor. 80% of 1500 is 320, which is about half his HP. That means that if she went for a stealth attack, she'd be detected, shield bashed, and killed in a couple of power attacks. Not factoring in any potions or poisons, just magic.And even if she did, Konahriik would kick in. Instant healing, burst of fire, and possibly even a Dragon Priest to join in for some fun.He's also just high enough level to be out of the reach of her Illusion spells, if he didn't resist them completely.He's a scary man. Or Daedra. Don't know - it's been a while since he took off that mask (which, BTW, brings up an interesting fact - the Dragon Priest Heavy Armor Masks count for the matching set perks with Daedric Armor).@ BenLuke; Explosive Runes Brand Coffee. Good to the last boom!@ Basilisk; Maybe. But Daedric Armor works fine for me.-Toa Levacius Zehvor Quote "I disapprove of what you have to say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it." - Evelyn Beatrice Hall (often attributed to Voltaire)
Havelock Vetinari Posted August 2, 2012 Posted August 2, 2012 (edited) Hm. That's given me an idea for a Daedra-summoning assassin. How does heavy armor fare in that enterprise? Not exactly well I'd think. Edited August 2, 2012 by Basilisk Quote I believe you find life such a problem because you think there are the good people and the bad people. You are wrong, of course. There are, always and only, the bad people, but some of them are on opposite sides.
Toa Levacius Zehvor Posted August 2, 2012 Posted August 2, 2012 Hm. That's given me an idea for a Daedra-summoning assassin. How does heavy armor fair in that enterprise? Not exactly well I'd think.Not at first. But if you can afford to give up a few enchantments, maybe use the Steed stone... with a +50% to Stealth on an enchanted item and Muffle on your boots, even Daedric Armor can't be too much of a problem. And if you have a high enough smithing you can buff up a lower-weight Heavy Armor to the cap instead. The Ebony Mail is good about that, and it gives you a permanent cloak like effect. Plus, it looks awesome.-Toa Levacius Zehvor Quote "I disapprove of what you have to say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it." - Evelyn Beatrice Hall (often attributed to Voltaire)
BenLuke Posted August 2, 2012 Posted August 2, 2012 Why oh why Steam must you put games I want on sale when I shouldn't be spending even more money whyyyyyyyy.Ah, in other words, I just got Morrowind with the Quakecon sale going on. Quote BZPRPG Profiles
Wotz Posted August 2, 2012 Posted August 2, 2012 I should totally get Morrowind.Speaking of getting Elder Scrolls games, I just got Oblivion ^.^ Quote D U N E W O L F
BenLuke Posted August 2, 2012 Posted August 2, 2012 (edited) So, Dawnguard is out for PC now. Edited August 2, 2012 by BenLuke-116 Quote BZPRPG Profiles
Takatu Posted August 2, 2012 Posted August 2, 2012 DOWNLOAD FASTER STEEEEAM!!!I also probably shouldn't have bought that lol, not the greatest financial decision, but too late now. Quote
Wotz Posted August 2, 2012 Posted August 2, 2012 I just noticed that on Steam. Now you PC guys get to enjoy killing/being vampire lords :PAlthough if you're a Vigilants of Stendarr fan then tough luck Quote D U N E W O L F
Toa Levacius Zehvor Posted August 2, 2012 Posted August 2, 2012 Dawnguard is out?.......Yes. Yes. Yes. That's enough time for one or two of six playthroughs before school starts.@ BenLuke; You are a good person. And hold onto those Boots of Blinding Speed. -Toa Levacius Zehvor Quote "I disapprove of what you have to say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it." - Evelyn Beatrice Hall (often attributed to Voltaire)
Takatu Posted August 3, 2012 Posted August 3, 2012 Ran into a number of bugs already, most of which I've been able to bypass with the console. Soul Cairn was freaky, and surprisingly large. Unfortunately hit a pretty severe glitch in the quest after that one that impedes all game progress, currently looking for a solution to that.Serana really is a wonderful character. Quote
Wotz Posted August 3, 2012 Posted August 3, 2012 Ran into a number of bugs already, most of which I've been able to bypass with the console. Soul Cairn was freaky, and surprisingly large. Unfortunately hit a pretty severe glitch in the quest after that one that impedes all game progress, currently looking for a solution to that.Serana really is a wonderful character.What glitch is this? Quote D U N E W O L F
Takatu Posted August 3, 2012 Posted August 3, 2012 I'll put it in spoilers just in case, since it's part of the new main quest.In Unseen Visions, when you go to the Ancestor Glade to get the knife and attract the moths and read the Elder Scrolls. Everything proceeds as normal, I get the knife, carve off some bark, and attract the seven groups of moths to me until I'm glowing like a giant light bulb. I go to the pillar of light and read the Blood Scroll, which evidently triggers my character reading all three until I see the map with Markarth and Solitude highlighted in red. After a moment my vision turns white and I'm back in the Glade, but I'm completely unable to move. Can't turn, can't walk, can't even move the camera around, only things I can do are access menus and the console, and shift between first- and third-person views. Also my HUD disappears, so there's no crosshair, compass, etc. I tried reloading a save, but that didn't really help. Quote
BenLuke Posted August 3, 2012 Posted August 3, 2012 Really, it's not a Elder Scrolls game without a crud-ton of bugs. Quote BZPRPG Profiles
Takatu Posted August 3, 2012 Posted August 3, 2012 I'm starting to get worried about this one, it's keeping me from doing pretty much anything else in the whole game, Dawnguard or not. I've been at it for quite a while, and nothing I do seems to solve it. And I haven't seen anyone else with this problem. Quote
Toa Levacius Zehvor Posted August 3, 2012 Posted August 3, 2012 What do you mean reloading a save didn't help? Are you frozen on all saves, or does it not unfreeze you? If it's the first, that's pretty bad, but if it's the latter... well, that's why we have a quicksave, autosaves, and I keep a backup save if nothing else.And on the subject of Dawnguard, I finished the Dawnguard side of the quest line. Still haven't gotten to the side quests or the vampire side yet, though, so there's still quite a bit to do.-Toa Levacius Zehvor Quote "I disapprove of what you have to say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it." - Evelyn Beatrice Hall (often attributed to Voltaire)
Takatu Posted August 3, 2012 Posted August 3, 2012 Just that reloading a save doesn't solve the problem, I still "freeze" in the same spot, right after I read the Scrolls. The game isn't freezing exactly, because all the animation is still playing (water flowing, moths still flying around, Serana's shifting) I just can't move myself, my camera, or access any menus except the console and my journal/save game menus. It's always in the same spot, after I get the vision from the Scrolls. I've reloaded saves both in and outside the cave, and I went through and deleted a lot of mods I wasn't really using anymore, including ones I felt used scripts that might have been messing with the quest's script, but still no luck. Quote
Katuko Posted August 3, 2012 Posted August 3, 2012 Use the console code for allowing player controls, if you can. I dunno if you are on PC or not. Quote
BenLuke Posted August 3, 2012 Posted August 3, 2012 Considering he's said he can access the console, and mentioned mods, I bet we can safely assume he's on PC. Quote BZPRPG Profiles
Havelock Vetinari Posted August 3, 2012 Posted August 3, 2012 Morrowind why you no appear in mail box? Quote I believe you find life such a problem because you think there are the good people and the bad people. You are wrong, of course. There are, always and only, the bad people, but some of them are on opposite sides.
Toa Levacius Zehvor Posted August 3, 2012 Posted August 3, 2012 Just that reloading a save doesn't solve the problem, I still "freeze" in the same spot, right after I read the Scrolls. The game isn't freezing exactly, because all the animation is still playing (water flowing, moths still flying around, Serana's shifting) I just can't move myself, my camera, or access any menus except the console and my journal/save game menus. It's always in the same spot, after I get the vision from the Scrolls. I've reloaded saves both in and outside the cave, and I went through and deleted a lot of mods I wasn't really using anymore, including ones I felt used scripts that might have been messing with the quest's script, but still no luck.How long have you waited? You might just need to leave your character sitting there for half an hour for it to end. And which questline are you doing? That might have something to do with it, I don't know. I had a short moment of being still before getting into conversation and then being free to walk around. But maybe if you take the Vampire quests it doesn't work that way.And yeah, just use player.moveto or whatever and an NPC's Ref ID and pop up on them@ Basilisk; Because the courier forgot his Boots of Blinding Speed.-Toa Levacius Zehvor Quote "I disapprove of what you have to say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it." - Evelyn Beatrice Hall (often attributed to Voltaire)
Katuko Posted August 3, 2012 Posted August 3, 2012 Well, in that case, since this sounds like a cutscene not properly re-enabling movement controls, just use the code enableplayercontrols. Quote
Havelock Vetinari Posted August 3, 2012 Posted August 3, 2012 @ Basilisk; Because the courier forgot his Boots of Blinding Speed.I suppose invoking the Lord of the Hunt and sending some Werewolves after said courier would be in bad taste? Quote I believe you find life such a problem because you think there are the good people and the bad people. You are wrong, of course. There are, always and only, the bad people, but some of them are on opposite sides.
BenLuke Posted August 3, 2012 Posted August 3, 2012 (edited) *Got Morrowind off Steam*Didn't have that problem. Edited August 3, 2012 by BenLuke-116 Quote BZPRPG Profiles
Havelock Vetinari Posted August 3, 2012 Posted August 3, 2012 *Got Morrowind off Steam*....CURSE YOU! :PYou know not what forces you mock mortal! Quote I believe you find life such a problem because you think there are the good people and the bad people. You are wrong, of course. There are, always and only, the bad people, but some of them are on opposite sides.
Toa Levacius Zehvor Posted August 3, 2012 Posted August 3, 2012 Okay, Basilisk getting Morrowind for the X-Box is pretty bad. In fact, it's disgusting - I'm ashamed that somebody would stoop so low.But BenLuke, you're even worse. Buying Morrowind as anything but a physical copy is treason against the universe itself, and your sentence shall be the longest, most painful torment ever experienced.-Toa Levacius Zehvor Quote "I disapprove of what you have to say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it." - Evelyn Beatrice Hall (often attributed to Voltaire)
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