Archon~ Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 Brutaka is my favorite character. I just want to throw that out there.He's gotten quite a bit of character development, he stayed around for 3-5 years, and has a wide set of capabilities and is overall well rounded.Early on in the story bible we get great (at least for Bionicle) character development, especially in FoF, up until the point when he overdoses on Antidermis, and it takes over. As we've seen in Bionicle, powerful AI can take over other AI. Mata Nui takes over Ignika, Bohrok program takes over Avtoran, etc. So my question to you would be, has Antidermis completly taken over Brutaka and his personality, or just really did a good job at bleaching his brain/mind/whatever? Would this make him a physical incarnation of Antidermis, and sort of, an anthithesis to EPE? Don't focus on that last question too much. I'm just gettjng poetic. Quote Archon *** "For one to truly feel alive, the person must kill oneself a little bit each and every day." Check out my MOC, one of the new generation of Toa on Spherus Magna! ***Toa Kyraan*** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regitnui Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 Um... I don't see any reason why he wouldn't be. Perhaps the antidermis was so thoroughly absorbed as to create an new being, one that is anfuaion of Brutaka and the Makuta's ancestral memory. Quote Elemental Rahi in Gen2, anyone? A write-up for an initial video for a G2 plot I really wish everyone would stop trying to play join the dots with Gen 1 and Gen 2 though,it seems there's a couple new threads everyday and often they're duplicates of already existing conversations! Or simply parallel them with a slightly new 'twist'! Gen 2 is NEW, it is NOT Gen 1 and it is NOT a continuation. Outside of the characters we already have I personally don't want to see ANY old characters return. I think it will cheapen the whole experience to those of us familiar with the original line... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xeo Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 I always envisioned the antidermis melding with Brutaka. So yes he is still Brutaka. But he is part antidermis now and knows what the Makuta had forgotten. Plus is a lot stronger now, too. Remember in '06 he was working with the Piraka for antidermis because it made him stronger to begin with. So maybe eventually the effects would wear off? Quote ~Xeo~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pohatu: Uniter of Stone Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 Yes. Brutaka is Brutaka, there is no other Brutaka in the main dimension. He is still Brutaka, even with the antidermis. Quote I HATE SCORPIOS ~Pohatu Master of Stone, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacks Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 As I recall, the antidermis that Brutaka fell into wasn't entirely conscious. We saw in '06 that Brutaka can absorb antidermis to make himself stronger, so that's basically all that happened -- he leveled up, exponentially. And he happened to absorb some Makuta-exclusive knowledge that was clinging to the AD like background radiation 2 Quote ------------------------------------- ------------------------------------- Rate The Song Above You Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishers64 Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 Brutaka is Brutaka. ... I see it as Mata Nui possessing the Ignika. The antidermis' mind is stronger, overriding Brutaka's, but his real mind is still there. Quote Hero Factory RPG | Bionicle Mafia XXIX: Storyline & Theories Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regitnui Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 Or brutaka's mind is still there, but the access to all the antidermis-based information has changed his worldview somewhat. 2 Quote Elemental Rahi in Gen2, anyone? A write-up for an initial video for a G2 plot I really wish everyone would stop trying to play join the dots with Gen 1 and Gen 2 though,it seems there's a couple new threads everyday and often they're duplicates of already existing conversations! Or simply parallel them with a slightly new 'twist'! Gen 2 is NEW, it is NOT Gen 1 and it is NOT a continuation. Outside of the characters we already have I personally don't want to see ANY old characters return. I think it will cheapen the whole experience to those of us familiar with the original line... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishers64 Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 I thought it was pretty clear from the dialogue that the antidermis was in control, not Brutaka. 1 Quote Hero Factory RPG | Bionicle Mafia XXIX: Storyline & Theories Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archon~ Posted October 16, 2014 Author Share Posted October 16, 2014 Fishers and Regitnui the only person that understood the question. Instead of going off the title read the question bellow, the topic title is meant to draw attention and provoke your mind a little bit not boost your ego by answering a simple (and dumb) question.I realize that the being in question is still technically Brutaka. I'm talking about the AI that's in control of that body. I'm asking if you think Antidermis completly took over like MN did to the Ignika and made Brutaka dormant, or did the two minds "fuse" in a way?Now shall we try this again? And fishers and regit have provided 2 possible solutions:1. Antidermis in control2. Blend of entities I'm personally think that his minds is completly overrun by the Antidermis simply due to the power of the substance, since it is concious... Right? Quote Archon *** "For one to truly feel alive, the person must kill oneself a little bit each and every day." Check out my MOC, one of the new generation of Toa on Spherus Magna! ***Toa Kyraan*** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toa Smoke Monster Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 I like to think that the two minds temporarily fused together, giving Brutaka the knowledge that the Makuta forgot but still leaving him in control of themself. He just acts different because he now has a lot of knowledge that he didn't before he fell into the Antidermis. Also, I remember reading a Greg quote a long time ago that said that the Antidermis's effects on him were temporary. If I remember that correctly, eventually he will revert back to his normal self. So I don't think that it has overtaken his consciousness. Of course, that is just what I like to think when I recall when this happened to Brutaka. Do with it what you will. Quote Everyone is one choice away from being the bad guy in another person's story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flex Lord Splash Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 Is it just me or does the Makuta shown in the new storyline episode for the reboot remind you of old school Brutaka? His mask, color scheme... he only looks more like Makuta I remember after he puts on the 'mask of ultimate power' and turns black and red. Quote BZP-RPG Profiles Marvel Profiles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regitnui Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 I seem to recall him in one of the web serials still being relatively normal... not sure if that was before or after antidermis dunking. Quote Elemental Rahi in Gen2, anyone? A write-up for an initial video for a G2 plot I really wish everyone would stop trying to play join the dots with Gen 1 and Gen 2 though,it seems there's a couple new threads everyday and often they're duplicates of already existing conversations! Or simply parallel them with a slightly new 'twist'! Gen 2 is NEW, it is NOT Gen 1 and it is NOT a continuation. Outside of the characters we already have I personally don't want to see ANY old characters return. I think it will cheapen the whole experience to those of us familiar with the original line... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nidhiki of the Shadows Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 Yeah, I always saw it as antidermis taking over his mind but not erasing it. Mata Nui and Ignika coexisted with each other. By that logic, so could Brutaka and antidermis, though a lot more parasitic in relation. -NotS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishers64 Posted October 17, 2014 Share Posted October 17, 2014 (edited) 4) Can Brutaka thinks by his own or is the antidermis that is controlling him? 4) The antidermis is not controlling him I can't find Toa Smoke Monster's answer - Brutaka gives 700-ish results and antidermis 400-ish, and "temporary" gives zero. Edited October 17, 2014 by fishers64 Quote Hero Factory RPG | Bionicle Mafia XXIX: Storyline & Theories Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archon~ Posted October 18, 2014 Author Share Posted October 18, 2014 So I guess Regitnui's proposition makes sense according to that quote, it's good to know he's still around there somewhere. Quote Archon *** "For one to truly feel alive, the person must kill oneself a little bit each and every day." Check out my MOC, one of the new generation of Toa on Spherus Magna! ***Toa Kyraan*** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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