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Here is my question. Everyone here now knows Bionicle is back, and everyone knows Makuta is back. Now here's the reason for this topic. Imagine Makuta because his own set, as the main bad guy. What would be your favorite way for Makuta to be like? How big would he be? what would be his color scheme? How much would he cost? What would his weapons be? and lastly, what would his mask be, if you don't like the ones shown? If I missed anything, add it.

 

I want a really large Makuta. like a few inches taller than Tahu. I am hoping for black and red color scheme. I'm thinking 30$ to 40$. I am hoping for something like a scythe or a jagged sword. I lastly think the Mask shown is okay. 

 

 

 


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I've said this many many many times before and I will say it once more! :D

 

I want Makuta to be a 'chaotic-good' type character. He helps the toa only to get to his main goal, and at one point may team up with them to defeat a common enemy (sorta like how Optimus Prime teamed up with Megatron to defeat Unicron in Transformers :P). I don't want him to be the cardboard cutout, "Blargh, I'm evil and want to destroy the universe." type of guy he was last time. He should be a rogue, willing to help only for his own desires to be reached.

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I've said this many many many times before and I will say it once more! :D

 

I want Makuta to be a 'chaotic-good' type character. He helps the toa only to get to his main goal, and at one point may team up with them to defeat a common enemy (sorta like how Optimus Prime teamed up with Megatron to defeat Unicron in Transformers :P). I don't want him to be the cardboard cutout, "Blargh, I'm evil and want to destroy the universe." type of guy he was last time. He should be a rogue, willing to help only for his own desires to be reached.

That is actually really neat. I was thinking of doing that for a character in my book series.

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Makuta had purple parts in the animation; I wouldn't mind a Makuta with purple parts. Hopefully a 30 dollar set so that he can have some extra complexity and size over the Toa.

 

Also hoping Makuta will not be a pure villain in this incarnation, since it would be a change of pace from the usual. Perhaps even have him as a hero redeeming himself after what happened with the Mask of Ultimate Power.

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Makuta had purple parts in the animation; I wouldn't mind a Makuta with purple parts. Hopefully a 30 dollar set so that he can have some extra complexity and size over the Toa.

 

Also hoping Makuta will not be a pure villain in this incarnation, since it would be a change of pace from the usual. Perhaps even have him as a hero redeeming himself after what happened with the Mask of Ultimate Power.

I was thinking I would also like black and purple, but those are already main colors for Onua.


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Makuta had purple parts in the animation; I wouldn't mind a Makuta with purple parts. Hopefully a 30 dollar set so that he can have some extra complexity and size over the Toa.

 

Also hoping Makuta will not be a pure villain in this incarnation, since it would be a change of pace from the usual. Perhaps even have him as a hero redeeming himself after what happened with the Mask of Ultimate Power.

I was thinking I would also like black and purple, but those are already main colors for Onua.

 

Not just purple, but gold! An all gold-and-purple large-ish set? Yes, please! :D


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I could live with a black and purple Makuta I guess. I prefer black and red (like the originaltitan) but it's very typical of a 'badguy' and of course we've already seen it in Gen1... I still really dislike Onua's colour scheme which is quite similar to what the cartoons suggest Makuta will get so I really hope they spend some time making him look good if they give him a Titan set (spring '16 I reckon) As far as size goes I'd like to see an Ekimu Titan with the MAsk of Creation this Summer and a small protector sized Makuta set as well. Then we should get a powered up Makuta Titan about a year from now with his MoUP to complete the set of legendary masks and set us up for the finale of the initial storyline in summer 2016. But that's just me...

 

Von Nebula was a pretty reasonable post-Bionicle 'Titan' so if TLG can make Makuta from that sort of groundwork in the same way as they built the new Toa from HF foundations I think they'd be onto a winner.

 

Personally though I'm still thinking we may get Ekimu as our first titan and have to wait another season for Makuta. So the big question really is, 'What should Ekimu be like?' :)



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I would like him to be a Two-pack with Ekimu, similar to the Toa Hagah from 2005.

 

As for colours, maybe some black mixed with gold, similar mixture that was used on Hahli Inikas feet. (Barf-bags are handed if sounds horrid to you.) With the shade of purple(/pink?) shown on the Legend animation, of course.


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A two pack might work for the 'cartoon' forms of Ekimu and Makuta. Would help with the whole 'conflict out of the box' thing that everyone is talking about this time round! But then we have no idea what sort of conflict (if any) there will be between Ekimu and Makuta. After so many others have suggested it I'd be really excited to see a not-so-bad Makuta as far as the storyline goes. I get that he resents Ekimu and whatnot but that doesn't necessarily make him evil now does it... 



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I would like, at most, to see some sort of combo pack featuring Ekimu and Makuta as you see them in the cartoon. Their height somewhere between Toa and Protector.

 

And then never seen or heard from again.

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A combo pack featuring the two... What if, to make it interesting, they did that, but gave the two of them their forge as bits of scenery? Maybe a couple extra masks lying around?

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A combo pack featuring the two... What if, to make it interesting, they did that, but gave the two of them their forge as bits of scenery? Maybe a couple extra masks lying around?

 

It's an interesting thought if nothing else. I'd worry about what it may become though as I was never a big fan of the Bionicle playsets from Gen 1. If they keep them in-scale (as much as Bionicle ever is anyway!) then it might be interesting to have a little scenery but I don't think it would really make much sense. It's a constraction theme after all and just having one or two small set pieces is probably unlikely to contribute a great deal to the action or overall enjoyment to be had from the sets. That's not to say we can't make our own scenery though, much like the mask forge we saw from the BftGM entry. Makuta of Okoto I think?



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IMO Makuta should look close to his cartoon counterpart. His purple, black colour scheme makes him appear as a part of the earth tribe. :-)

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We've already seen what Makuta looks like. He was gold and purple, then became black and red, and also quite large after putting on the Mask of Ultimate Power.

I want to know what everyone would like him to look like.


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We've already seen what Makuta looks like. He was gold and purple, then became black and red, and also quite large after putting on the Mask of Ultimate Power.

I want to know what everyone would like him to look like.

 

Well.... pretty much how he really does look in the 2015 story personally.

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We've already seen what Makuta looks like. He was gold and purple, then became black and red, and also quite large after putting on the Mask of Ultimate Power.

I want to know what everyone would like him to look like.

 

Well.... pretty much how he really does look in the 2015 story personally.

 

Yeah. Why introduce a character who looks a certain way, only to give us a set that looks nothing like it? Kinda confusing for the young kids, don't ya think?


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Yeah. Why introduce a character who looks a certain way, only to give us a set that looks nothing like it? Kinda confusing for the young kids, don't ya think?

 

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Yeah. Why introduce a character who looks a certain way, only to give us a set that looks nothing like it? Kinda confusing for the young kids, don't ya think?

 

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I want Ekimu to be Lawful Evil, and have a wave with him and Makuta as Titans.

 

I recently made my self-MOC (my profile picture atm) that I think resembles Ekimu and Makuta's body structure shown in the trailer (IMO).

 

Also, in the trailer, when they bury Ekimu, he's around the same height as protectors, maybe a bit taller. :P


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Dekar does in fact look like Dekar, except when he doesn't.

 

I'm not defending the idea that Makuta should be an entirely different character physically from how he appears in the minisodes under the guise that "old Bionicle did a thing like it".

 

Opposite of that, actually.

 

It was dumb then and it's still dumb now.

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Dekar does in fact look like Dekar, except when he doesn't.

 

I'm not defending the idea that Makuta should be an entirely different character physically from how he appears in the minisodes under the guise that "old Bionicle did a thing like it".

 

Opposite of that, actually.

 

It was dumb then and it's still dumb now.

Dekar looked like Dekar until the Ignika transformed him into a duplicate of Hydraxon. We got accurate sets of both identities, meaning that wasn't even an example.

 

EDIT: Also, why did you link to the Bionicle Wiki? You know we don't like that place. :P

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Dekar looked like Dekar until the Ignika transformed him into a duplicate of Hydraxon. We got accurate sets of both identities, meaning that wasn't even an example.

You can storyline whatever reason you want but the fact of the matter is we were presented on character then given a completely different set form that same year. It was confusing and most people even forget it's the same person.

 

No different than releasing two different sets for Okoto Makuta like we were discussing before. I don't know why you're rejecting this example so much. I'm agreeing with you.

 

(also that's the wiki that pops up first when I type stuff into google.)

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The Mask Makers' primary color is gold, Ekimu with trans- or light blue joints/secondary, and Makuta with Purple. I reckon, however, that we'll get Evil Titan Makuta, with his Black and Red colour scheme and greater height, before we get Mask Maker Makuta. Ekimu will likely be Toa sized, since he's bulkier than the Protectors, and that bulk must come with height.


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Dekar looked like Dekar until the Ignika transformed him into a duplicate of Hydraxon. We got accurate sets of both identities, meaning that wasn't even an example.

You can storyline whatever reason you want but the fact of the matter is we were presented on character then given a completely different set form that same year. It was confusing and most people even forget it's the same person.

 

No different than releasing two different sets for Okoto Makuta like we were discussing before. I don't know why you're rejecting this example so much. I'm agreeing with you.

 

Takua and Takanuva. Except they were the same being in a different form with a different name. When Dekar was transformed, his mind was replaced with Hydraxon's, so even in-story, they were separate identities. Takua/Takanuva would be the example you meant to use.


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Why would Ekimu be evil and Makuta be good? That's stupid.

 

Why is it stupid? Because it isn't a carbon copy of the story that we got in 2001? Consider the impact it would have on fans. All of the Gen1 fans are expecting Makuta to be evil and Ekimu to be good so if TLG were to flip that round on us further down the line it would be a huge twist for us. New fans just joining in with Gen2 will also expect Makuta to be the badguy so the twist will work for them too, just not so much as for the old fans as a lot of us will feel we've 'seen the story before' and so jump to conclusions which I for one would very much like TLG to prove wrong!

 

Maybe try and make your next contribution to the thread a little less aggressive and unhelpful, there's no need for that sort of post.

 

Dekar looked like Dekar until the Ignika transformed him into a duplicate of Hydraxon. We got accurate sets of both identities, meaning that wasn't even an example.

You can storyline whatever reason you want but the fact of the matter is we were presented on character then given a completely different set form that same year. It was confusing and most people even forget it's the same person.

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What are you talking about? Dekar the matoran and Dekar-Hydraxon are completely different entities. How is it that you still object to this information after it's already been explained once? Even the page you linked to doesn't support your seriously incorrect information...



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I don't know how I feel about Makuta being a "good guy". I'm sure I could open up to the idea after a while, but right now it seems a little out of place. Makuta has always been evil of his own volition so it's a bit jarring to see a mask possess him and make him go bad. It'd be super cool to see Lego throw in a crazy twist like that, and I guess I'd prefer that over having the possessed Makuta be evil, since I feel like it's almost an insult to such a great and powerful character, it'd be like if in the next Batman the Joker was actually a good guy and was being mind controlled. I wouldn't mind Makuta being rouge or "chaotic good" though as long as he's not like on the Toa level of heroic. At his most good, I see Makuta as an anti-hero. Don't get me wrong, I don't want the new gen to be a carbon copy of G1, but I'd hate for them to bring back my favorite heroes and give my favorite villain the short end of the stick. As long as they do it carefully and don't make him straight up a good guy, I could probably grow to accept it.


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I don't know how I feel about Makuta being a "good guy". I'm sure I could open up to the idea after a while, but right now it seems a little out of place. Makuta has always been evil of his own volition so it's a bit jarring to see a mask possess him and make him go bad. It'd be super cool to see Lego throw in a crazy twist like that, and I guess I'd prefer that over having the possessed Makuta be evil, since I feel like it's almost an insult to such a great and powerful character, it'd be like if in the next Batman the Joker was actually a good guy and was being mind controlled. I wouldn't mind Makuta being rouge or "chaotic good" though as long as he's not like on the Toa level of heroic. At his most good, I see Makuta as an anti-hero. Don't get me wrong, I don't want the new gen to be a carbon copy of G1, but I'd hate for them to bring back my favorite heroes and give my favorite villain the short end of the stick. As long as they do it carefully and don't make him straight up a good guy, I could probably grow to accept it.

I think I see how it could work.

 

Makuta gets jealous, and tries to make the most powerful mask of all time. But it turns out like the Ignika or the One Ring, possessing a mind or will of its own, and it takes over him when he puts it on. After experiencing its power, Makuta realizes the mistake he's made and tries to rebel against it. In doing so, he's able to hold himself back long enough for Ekimu to knock it free of his face, and thus freeing him from its control. Now locked in his death-like slumber, he dreams of the day when he would awake and destroy the accursed mask that he'd made.

 

I actually kinda like that idea, the more I think about it. Anyone else?

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I think they could do some pretty good character development with him over the course of the next year or two if the good Makuta thing was going to happen. He's clearly not purely good or heroic as you say since then he probably wouldn't be so crazy jealous of his brother and his superior masks! We're all allowed to be jealous and envious without immediately being labelled as evil so there's plenty of room for his character to develop in any direction Lego chooses. It's not inconceivable that Ekimu decides he must KILL Makuta to set things right once he's revived and given the MoC. This could go down very badly with the Toa and create a huge grey area as to who is in the wrong. Ekimu is making an evil decision for the greater good while Makuta is now freed from the MoUP and hypothetically no threat at all. So should the Toa help Ekimu defeat a powerless, technically innocent Makuta or rather defend the weak against the unprovoked aggression?...



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I think they could do some pretty good character development with him over the course of the next year or two if the good Makuta thing was going to happen. He's clearly not purely good or heroic as you say since then he probably wouldn't be so crazy jealous of his brother and his superior masks! We're all allowed to be jealous and envious without immediately being labelled as evil so there's plenty of room for his character to develop in any direction Lego chooses. It's not inconceivable that Ekimu decides he must KILL Makuta to set things right once he's revived and given the MoC. This could go down very badly with the Toa and create a huge grey area as to who is in the wrong. Ekimu is making an evil decision for the greater good while Makuta is now freed from the MoUP and hypothetically no threat at all. So should the Toa help Ekimu defeat a powerless, technically innocent Makuta or rather defend the weak against the unprovoked aggression?...

Combined with my above idea, I think this sounds like a really good idea. But that's if Ekimu sees a reason to kill Makuta, though. Because, what did Makuta actually do? We know he made the MoUP, and that he put it on, which caused a bit of environmental chaos. The animation makes it seem like Ekimu removed the mask within moments of it being put on, so how do we know Makuta even did any real harm before being separated from the mask?


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As long as the makuta of this generation isn't like Teridax who had the "super perfect plan with total victory guaranteed even with losses accounted for.", instead i want a classic type of villain who is formidable, possibly corrupted by the mask he created but proves to be a powerful enemy for the Toa.


 

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If I were writing the story (with the good Makuta twist) I'd suggest that the MoUP needs to channel it's ultimate power through a living being. Given that it was Makuta who both forged and wore the mask it's a safe bet that he's the best host right now. When it was removed from his body, it's pain was enough to send Makuta and Ekimu int oa deep slumber that for some reason only the MoC can reverse (we think) but it didn't sever the connection it shared with Makuta. So whether he knows it or not, Makuta is still a vessel for the powers of the MoUP and I'd imagine that the mask is itself somehow responsible for the skull spider infestation. If we're going to see a Makuta titan (which I really hope we do) then it'll be because the MoUP has somehow been returned to his body (possibly by a LoSS or more likely an upcoming summer wave villain) At this point he will be revived and empowered but completely dominated by the mask. In this form we can only imagine what he may do and the actual power of the MoUP. The way I read it, seems like it could be preeetty powerful...

 

Another possibility regarding Makuta's revival would be that bringing the MoC to Ekimu will revive them BOTH as they are brothers... At this point Makuta may be driven to find the MoUP on his own but the mask (like the one ring) would be doing everything it could to help him succeed so it wouldn't be hard for him even in his cartoon form. It would also give us a reason to expect a smaller Makuta set in addition to a probable titan which I'm all for. Just a thought!

 

EDIT : Forgot that the point of this post was to give Ekimu reason to want to KILL Makuta! If Makuta is transformed and controlled by the MoUP, which seems fairly likely, he'll cause untold chaos on Okoto. Even after the mask is removed or destroyed, Ekimu may feel that the evil was within his brother all along and may not believe that he was merely being manipulated by the MoUP. If Ekimu truly believes this then he will also realise that Makuta could easily forge another MoUP and start things up all over again. Given that Makuta will be the only being alive who knows how to create this deadly artifact, it's quite conceivable that his death may be seen as 'necessary for peace' in the long run...

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The more we theorize the more I think of this Makuta as Tetsuo from Akira or the bad guys in Amazing Spider-Man 2. He was neglected while his brother got all the fame so he turned against him. Maybe we'll see him as a more sympathetic villain? I'd enjoy that since G1 seemed to have a lacking of sympathetic villains in the main storyline.


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If I were writing the story (with the good Makuta twist) I'd suggest that the MoUP needs to channel it's ultimate power through a living being. Given that it was Makuta who both forged and wore the mask it's a safe bet that he's the best host right now. When it was removed from his body, it's pain was enough to send Makuta and Ekimu int oa deep slumber that for some reason only the MoC can reverse (we think) but it didn't sever the connection it shared with Makuta. So whether he knows it or not, Makuta is still a vessel for the powers of the MoUP and I'd imagine that the mask is itself somehow responsible for the skull spider infestation. If we're going to see a Makuta titan (which I really hope we do) then it'll be because the MoUP has somehow been returned to his body (possibly by a LoSS or more likely an upcoming summer wave villain) At this point he will be revived and empowered but completely dominated by the mask. In this form we can only imagine what he may do and the actual power of the MoUP. The way I read it, seems like it could be preeetty powerful...

 

Another possibility regarding Makuta's revival would be that bringing the MoC to Ekimu will revive them BOTH as they are brothers... At this point Makuta may be driven to find the MoUP on his own but the mask (like the one ring) would be doing everything it could to help him succeed so it wouldn't be hard for him even in his cartoon form. It would also give us a reason to expect a smaller Makuta set in addition to a probable titan which I'm all for. Just a thought!

 

EDIT : Forgot that the point of this post was to give Ekimu reason to want to KILL Makuta! If Makuta is transformed and controlled by the MoUP, which seems fairly likely, he'll cause untold chaos on Okoto. Even after the mask is removed or destroyed, Ekimu may feel that the evil was within his brother all along and may not believe that he was merely being manipulated by the MoUP. If Ekimu truly believes this then he will also realise that Makuta could easily forge another MoUP and start things up all over again. Given that Makuta will be the only being alive who knows how to create this deadly artifact, it's quite conceivable that his death may be seen as 'necessary for peace' in the long run...

Good reason to give two Makuta sets, which I quite like the idea of.

 

While that may be a reason, we don't know that Ekimu DIDN'T know that. If he truly thought Makuta was too dangerous to begin with, why did he remove the mask? Why not just end it right there and kill him? No, Ekimu spared his brother's life, so I suspect he won't try that, unless the two of them are revived and Makuta continues to do evil.

 

Personally, I wouldn't mind having Makuta be like Gollum in LotR. The 'Gollum' identity was formed from his love for the One Ring, but his former self, Smeagol, began to show through after befriending Frodo. Gollum loved the Ring, while Smeagol hated it. Also, Norman Osborn in the first Spiderman movie. After being injected with the enhancement serum, the Green Goblin identity entered him. The "Norman" personality wanted to continue to be a good guy and make amends for the destruction he caused (at first, anyway), and the "Goblin" wanted to continue to cuase more havoc.

 

Makuta could be like that in that his true self hates what he's done and wishes to attone for it, but there's still a part of him that's attached to the mask and feels a need to have it and use its power. Ekimu could sympathize with the good half of his brother, while simultaneously wanting to kill the "evil" half.


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