Eyru

Okay, I'm going to end my posting in this entry with some final words.

@MT: I asked Kagha, and he says that in this battle, all elements are equal. Meaning fire doesn't melt ice, water doesn't extinguish fire, etc. Every element is equal to the other.

@tarakavarbiter & mocman72: You two are spamming. You have nothing in your posts that adds to the conversation, and even though MT has been replying in this topic (not closing it), you keep whining for entry closure. I'm sorry, but what's wrong with MT and I discussing something? Maybe I'm just a little fuzzy at the moment, but I don't see what's wrong with that.

@Levacius: You have no right to talk to me like that. All I said was that MT and I were engaging in a friendly debate, nothing more, and you started flaming me. Like I said previously, there's nothing wrong with MT and I conversing in this entry. If it bugs you so much that this entry has 120+ comments, then just leave.

There you go. I've said what I wanted to say.

On Halloween, some senior at my school dressed up like Rick and walked around the school with a microphone and a CD player blaring that song.

Those lyrics bring back good memories.

And nice title. =P

NO WAI

I never knew.

I see he has Lewa syndrome.

Symptoms may include:

Believing that long, narrow, hole-ridden bladed objects can create enough lift to fly

This made me lawl.

Enough with the drug cheese, sister.

Je suis A FREAKIN' MALE. 0.o

Sounds great! I'm looking forward to summer.

But when will the song be released? With the update or *gasp* after the movie? When?

OMG I REMEMBER THAT GAME.

...

NOW I NEED TO FIND IT.

I have a month left.

...Don'tlaugh...

Me too.

What's wrong with a lot of comments? We're just having a friendly debate.

Besides, this is MT's blog, so it's up to him to decide when we stop, not you. If you don't like seeing 120 comments in a single post, then go look at a different blog.

I'm not trying to be mean, but your comments are more off-topic than Mt's and mine. We're having an intelligent conversation, while you're just telling us ot stop.

Because the nature of fire itself says that it can't be frozen.

 

-MT

You just said that Toa would have abilities far superior to ours. Who's to say they couldn't alter the nature of fire? Fire Toa control that element, after all, so why can't they create solid fire? They are the masters of that element. You've never seen a Toa in our reality, so how do you know that they couldn't do things that are impossible for us? They already can! We can't harbor elemental enegy in our bodies and unleash it at will. We can't create masks that grant their wearers awesome powers. So how can you say that a Toa couldn't do something like create solid fire?

Oh, and think about this: Mesonak controls ice and shdow, right? So if we play by your rules, his shadow attacks are harmless, as in our reality shadow is merely the absence of light.

So, if we're using the rules of reality, Toa can't exist because there are no known beings in our reality that are biomechanical.

 

And even if there are/were biomechanical beings, it's rather doubtful they would have full control over an element.

 

And be able to use masks that grant them powers.

 

It seems to me that you're being rather selective over what parts of BIONICLE we can use use and what parts we can't. Basically, we have a team of fictional beings (Toa) fighting in our reality, playing by our rules, not theirs. So why are they even alive? How can they control an element or multiple elements? How can they use masks?

 

Basically, you're saying that some parts of the BIONICLE universe can exist in our reality, while others can't. What supreme authority decided which rules of reality are effective and which aren't?

Now why couldn't a Toa exist? Just because it doesn't exist now doesn't mean it can't exist. I don't know how they could use elements or masks, since if they were alive, their abilities would be far superior to ours.

 

And, besides, that whole second paragraph applies to Bionicle too, because while it uses some parts of our reality, and some parts of theirs. What I am saying is that we are using the rules of reality on THIS FIGHT, so MT: 1, You: 0

 

-MT

So if Toa have abilities far superior to ours, why wouldn't they be able to create solid fire, or ice that can freeze fire? Who's to say they couldn't?

I'm not trying to decide how the real world works; I'm showing you how the BIONICLE universe works. Let's face it, Toa don't exist in the real world, do they? So using real-world explanations isn't going to get you anywhere. Your point is moot.

No, it isn't, because we're using the rules of reality in this battle. You can ask Kagha.

 

TA, I'll close it if it gets too off topic. We're ok for now

 

-MT

So, if we're using the rules of reality, Toa can't exist because there are no known beings in our reality that are biomechanical.

And even if there are/were biomechanical beings, it's rather doubtful they would have full control over an element.

And be able to use masks that grant them powers.

It seems to me that you're being rather selective over what parts of BIONICLE we can use use and what parts we can't. Basically, we have a team of fictional beings (Toa) fighting in our reality, playing by our rules, not theirs. So why are they even alive? How can they control an element or multiple elements? How can they use masks?

Basically, you're saying that some parts of the BIONICLE universe can exist in our reality, while others can't. What supreme authority decided which rules of reality are effective and which aren't?

lolwoot!

That was funny. Good times, good times...

Who says ice can't freeze fire? If fire always melted ice, then the seal that Tahu and Kopaka placed over the Kraata cave would have been useless.

First off, if you're going to look to Bionicle for laws of physics, then you shouldn't even be trying to argue. The half a seal that Tahu put over the cave was solid fire, which doesn't even exist.

 

And if you were to lay a thick covering of ice over fire, it would be deprived of oxygen and thus go out.

Ok.....but what I said was that you can't freeze fire, and regardless, it would take a lot more energy to do that then it would to melt ice.

 

Who are you to say that one element is stronger than another? I say that if two equally powerful Toa are fighting, then the winner should be determined by skill, not element. A battle isn't a game of rock, paper, scissors; you can't say that one element always beats another.

Ok, maybe this is me being a party killer, but I'm using reality here.

 

If an equal amount of fire and ice are put in the same place, the fire will melt the ice. If fire and water are in the same place, the water will put the fire out. If ice and water are in the same place, the ice will freeze the water. It's that simple.

 

It's like saying light always beats darkness because darkness doesn't really exist as an element; it's only the absence of light. And yet a Makuta can put up a fight with darkness, can't he? Darkness shouldn't be able to hurt anyone, as it's only the absence of light, but it can in the BIONICLE universe.

Again, Greg Farshety's imagination is not the creator of reality.

 

What do you have to say in light of my arguments? =P

I say quit using Bionicle novels for your source of deciding how the world really works and use common sense.

 

-MT

I'm not trying to decide how the real world works; I'm showing you how the BIONICLE universe works. Let's face it, Toa don't exist in the real world, do they? So using real-world explanations isn't going to get you anywhere. Your point is moot.

Hold on, why does fire beat ice? I seem to remember that when Tahu and Kopaka fought after becoming Toa Nuva, they were locked in a stalemate. Why is heat the key factor?

Because fire can melt ice, and ice cannot freeze fire.

 

-MT

Who says ice can't freeze fire? If fire always melted ice, then the seal that Tahu and Kopaka placed over the Kraata cave would have been useless.

And if you were to lay a thick covering of ice over fire, it would be deprived of oxygen and thus go out.

And what about dry ice? It's so cold, it burns.

Who are you to say that one element is stronger than another? I say that if two equally powerful Toa are fighting, then the winner should be determined by skill, not element. A battle isn't a game of rock, paper, scissors; you can't say that one element always beats another.

It's like saying light always beats darkness because darkness doesn't really exist as an element; it's only the absence of light. And yet a Makuta can put up a fight with darkness, can't he? Darkness shouldn't be able to hurt anyone, as it's only the absence of light, but it can in the BIONICLE universe.

So if darkness, which is the absence of light, is equally matched with light; then cold, which is the absence of heat, should be equally matched with heat.

What do you have to say in light of my arguments? =P

Calypso vs. (Eyru)Eyru ADV: Eyru, unless Calypso changes to Fire for his element.

Hold on, why does fire beat ice? I seem to remember that when Tahu and Kopaka fought after becoming Toa Nuva, they were locked in a stalemate. Why is heat the key factor?

Mesonak.

Sumiki is win all by itself.

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~KS~

Ditto.

I didn't really understand the music video.

But I love the song.

And the band.

And it is a very important song.

Who is this random Jay, and why is he the freakin' man?

We Will Rock You by Queen.

It's an awesome song, and who doesn't know it?

Hmm, anybody think I can whip up an entry in an hour?

It takes a wise person to admit when they are wrong.

And it takes an even wiser person to apologize for it.

I also envy you. Heck, I envy anyone with a job, but still...