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    Jedi Gali

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    Yes, yes. However, this still doesn't destroy the water. Fire existing in water is no great triumph, as water existing in fire kills the fire. Fire can only coexist with water, while water can both resist fire and douse it.

    Let us do a little test. You a make a pit. Let's say a foot deep. You fill it with water. Now, there are holes in the sides. We put very hot fire through those holes. You now, basically, have a cage of fire. The water turns to gas form pretty quick.

     

    Fire can not co-exist in water. Water can not co-exist in fire. It's that simple.

     

    Forgive me, I made this post before JD's.

     

    First, I'd like to thank JD again for letting me deabte Nuju. It's been a good run, and I've enjoyed it.

     

    But the question of water and fire still remains. I can only say this: They are equal. Both have helped humans since the beginning of time, and both are effective weapons. All in all, fire and water are just things we can bicker about, but for every weakness one has, the other has. For every plus, another plus.

     

    Thank you.

    Jedi Gali

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    In fact, we humans have devloped things that make fire work under water. Every heard of under water torches? The trick is this: To make sure gas is always hitting the flame. If there is enough gas, there is flame. Even under water. So, yes, fire could be used under water as a weapon. So, yes, fire could be used under water as a weapon.
    Jedi Gali

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    True, but only because if we did, we'd all burn up, along with water.

     

    But, my question to Nuju is: Water, in steam form, is not a effective weapon. How would you be able to fight with water if you were in a hot place?(By hot, I mean above boiling temp, of course.)

     

    EDIT: Forgive me. I made a horrible typo.

    Jedi Gali

    Posted

    There will always be heat, not necessarily fire. Fire is not the only source of heat there is. Friction, for example, can create heat. As for the oxygen, that isn't true. Fire will greedily suck up oxygen, but if the space it is in has a limited amount of the gas, eventually, that flame will be put out.

    Friction, in fact, is one of the main causes of fire. Sparks are fire. I'm not talking about the volt kind, I'm talking about the other kind. Make a little friction, you get a spark. Sparks do not eat away oxygen. Yet, they will catch something on fire, and start a raging fire.

     

    In the end, you'll get stuck with sparks. But sparks can kill.

     

    True, true. But does the sun have oxygen on it? No. It is caused by something else. Nuclear reactions, if I'm correct.

    Jedi Gali

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    Okay.

     

    Please defend your element in response to this prompt. Explain how the opposite is weaker and more easily combated.

     

    Nuju Metru?

     

    :kaukau: -JG

     

    Fire. A beacon of light that ignited our humanity. This much can be said about that source of energy. But it is so fragile! Starved of oxygen, smote with water, stomped out, all ways of ending a blaze of any size. Water, on the other hand, is indestructible. Evaporate it, freeze and smash it, Water won't go away.

     

    -Nuju Metru

    Fire is always there. No matter how hard you try, there will always be heat. And where there is heat, there is fire. Starved of oxygen, yes. But Oxygen is always there, even in the voids of space. Smote with water, maybe. Fire will turn water to steam. Stomp it, perhaps. A big enough fire will always prevail. No matter what, there is always fire. Even if it's just a spark, fire is always out there. Both fire and water are always there.

     

    And when the sun dies, Human life can't exist. My element can influence humanity as long as it is around, while the sun won't intervene until its collapse.

     

    Everything will fall granted it's hot enough. And if it isn't? Water will destroy no matter its temperature.

     

    That's a good point. I can't argue.

     

    Another good point. But I'm outwieghting the fact that you have to get so much water to destroying something with the fact that fire needs to be hot enough.

    Jedi Gali

    Posted

    If you could, please respond to my other statement.

     

    But when the Sun dies, it's going take everything with it. It will swell up to a red gaint, and envelope Earth. Water will die when fire dies.

     

    Editing...

     

    Nuju, fire is still needed. It's a glaring weakness.

     

    But, fire is by far the best weapon. It can burn, it can explode. Anything and everything will fall beneath it, granted it's hot enough. NORAD can survive a major flood, but it can't survive a big enough fire.

    Jedi Gali

    Posted

    Which kills more? Water does. Water may be life giving, but you can drown in it. Also, if you go deep enough, you will find yourself being pressed down by the water’s weight, and die.

     

    Floods are devastating. They can destroy anything. Fire, not so much. Fire leaves something, but water leaves nothing.

     

    So, water kills and destroys the most.

     

    To Ninju:

     

    The sun, Ninju. The sun is a big fireball. No fire, no heat. No heat, no human life.

    Jedi Gali

    Posted

    Sorry for the wait. I was talking with some one.

     

    The impact on human life with fire. A good question. For years, humans have worshiped fire. Why is this? Because fire is used in some many ways. It heats your food. It kills the nasty bugs in your food. If there was no fire, human life would be set back HUGELY. Cars run on fire. Most things need fire to get along. Ra, the god of the sun, was said to be fire. Fire has impacted human life since the first human came about.

     

    To combat Ninju;

     

    This is true, water is needed for life. But so is fire. No fire, not much life. Fire is needed. No matter what, we must cook our bloody steaks, whether we like it or not.

     

    True, true. But the sun Gods, the fire Gods. People would pray to them so that the sun would beat down, and make those crops grow. No fire, no sun, no heat. Life giving crops were at the sake of fire.

    Jedi Gali

    Posted

    First off, I’d like to thank Jedi Gali for letting me on the debate. It’s nice I get to do this.

     

    Now, to the chase. We’re going be debating over if fire or water is better(Or as JG said, which is a better natural weapon.) This’ll be hard, but I’ll try to do my best. But, first we must ask: What is fire?

     

    Fire is heat and light. How it is caused is reactions in the air. Heating of the air and other elements put off light and more heat. Allow me to rephrase that. There are three things needed for fire: Fuel, oxygen, and heat. When these three mix, fire breaks out. The reaction caused puts out light, and glows differently when different fuels are added or/and mixed.

     

    With that out of the way, we can see how this works in battle. Fire, if hot enough, will burn about anything. It has been proven, if you raise the heat of something enough, it will one; explode, or two; burn. This makes fire a very effective weapon, should you be able to get it hot enough.

     

    Now, what about fire’s glaring weakness, water? Well, water is not very effect as it may seem. It takes a lot of water to put out a fire. I once had a campfire, and it took two gallons of water to put that little thing out. Fire turns water into steam. When you begin to think of it, fire can exist on water, even. If oil is spilled into a river way, fire will burn the oil, and not get put out by the water.

     

    Well, that is all I have to say right now. I’ll stop, and see what Metru Ninju has to say.

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