HeavyMetalSunshineSister Posted March 30, 2013 Share Posted March 30, 2013 species features a caste entirely devoted to warNot the case here. So brain uploading and mind-swapping, yes. Cyberspace society, absolutely freaking not. Prosthetics for those who need them, yes. Glorious Army of Cybermen, not at the present time. Quote We will remember - Skies may fade and stars may wane; we won't forget And your light shines bright - yes so much brighter shine on We will remember - Until the skies will fall we won't forget We will remember We all shall follow doom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Havelock Vetinari Posted March 30, 2013 Share Posted March 30, 2013 Who doesn't want a glorious army of Cybermen? What is wrong with you people? Quote I believe you find life such a problem because you think there are the good people and the bad people. You are wrong, of course. There are, always and only, the bad people, but some of them are on opposite sides. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeavyMetalSunshineSister Posted March 30, 2013 Share Posted March 30, 2013 I said not at the present time, okay. You're completely ruining my attempts at hiding my plan to convert all sapient life. Quote We will remember - Skies may fade and stars may wane; we won't forget And your light shines bright - yes so much brighter shine on We will remember - Until the skies will fall we won't forget We will remember We all shall follow doom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xomeron Posted March 30, 2013 Share Posted March 30, 2013 Ah, yes. "Rover" The ancient RPer who has been around since the beginning of the RTSRPG format, vying to convert all life in the galaxy into glorious cybernetics. We have dismissed that claim. Quote That being said, thag thag thaggity thag thagness.-Rover "A memo was sent to Astaria asking if it would at all be possible to make a flying goat.""The Astarians responded that making a goat fly would be trivial; making it land safely would be another matter entirely." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeavyMetalSunshineSister Posted March 30, 2013 Share Posted March 30, 2013 As well you should, I'm totally not plotting anything of the sort. [Just robo-suit wearing Time Lords who stab people in the neck.] Quote We will remember - Skies may fade and stars may wane; we won't forget And your light shines bright - yes so much brighter shine on We will remember - Until the skies will fall we won't forget We will remember We all shall follow doom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Havelock Vetinari Posted March 30, 2013 Share Posted March 30, 2013 Hmm. The Cybermen concept does have a great.....feel to it though.... Hmmm..... Quote I believe you find life such a problem because you think there are the good people and the bad people. You are wrong, of course. There are, always and only, the bad people, but some of them are on opposite sides. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xomeron Posted March 30, 2013 Share Posted March 30, 2013 I thought you were playing a Machine Race. HOW DO YOU HAVE MACHINE CYBORGS. Quote That being said, thag thag thaggity thag thagness.-Rover "A memo was sent to Astaria asking if it would at all be possible to make a flying goat.""The Astarians responded that making a goat fly would be trivial; making it land safely would be another matter entirely." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Havelock Vetinari Posted March 30, 2013 Share Posted March 30, 2013 I'm considering my builds is all. One on glorious machine hand-Cybermen. Awesome. One the other glorious machine hand-Machine race. Awesome. ...... This is hard. Quote I believe you find life such a problem because you think there are the good people and the bad people. You are wrong, of course. There are, always and only, the bad people, but some of them are on opposite sides. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyrd Bid Ful Araed Posted March 30, 2013 Share Posted March 30, 2013 Hmm, got a fairly good idea of what I'd want and what I'd need from that list Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xomeron Posted March 30, 2013 Share Posted March 30, 2013 If anyone wants to join, we have a group chat going on Skype. Send a contact request to drrobert14 and I'll add you.. Quote That being said, thag thag thaggity thag thagness.-Rover "A memo was sent to Astaria asking if it would at all be possible to make a flying goat.""The Astarians responded that making a goat fly would be trivial; making it land safely would be another matter entirely." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Havelock Vetinari Posted March 30, 2013 Share Posted March 30, 2013 Alright. Those RPG concepts I mentioned? .....Yeah. I've latched onto a new concept. Count of hands, who would be interested in an RTS that starts at 1900 tech levels? Quote I believe you find life such a problem because you think there are the good people and the bad people. You are wrong, of course. There are, always and only, the bad people, but some of them are on opposite sides. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xomeron Posted March 30, 2013 Share Posted March 30, 2013 I think two RTSs on one forum is the most we should go for. Quote That being said, thag thag thaggity thag thagness.-Rover "A memo was sent to Astaria asking if it would at all be possible to make a flying goat.""The Astarians responded that making a goat fly would be trivial; making it land safely would be another matter entirely." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeavyMetalSunshineSister Posted March 30, 2013 Share Posted March 30, 2013 I agree with Xom for the moment. Also, I do hope there's not going to be absolutely critical information on the Skype chat, seeing as I loathe and therefore do not use Skype. Quote We will remember - Skies may fade and stars may wane; we won't forget And your light shines bright - yes so much brighter shine on We will remember - Until the skies will fall we won't forget We will remember We all shall follow doom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xomeron Posted March 30, 2013 Share Posted March 30, 2013 It's just a discussion. Critical stuff will go through the Thread, Quote That being said, thag thag thaggity thag thagness.-Rover "A memo was sent to Astaria asking if it would at all be possible to make a flying goat.""The Astarians responded that making a goat fly would be trivial; making it land safely would be another matter entirely." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeavyMetalSunshineSister Posted March 30, 2013 Share Posted March 30, 2013 Roger roger. Pointless trivia -> Skype Critical stuff -> Thread Super-critical stuff that will decide the fate of all races in the game -> PMs between myself and Basilisk Quote We will remember - Skies may fade and stars may wane; we won't forget And your light shines bright - yes so much brighter shine on We will remember - Until the skies will fall we won't forget We will remember We all shall follow doom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Havelock Vetinari Posted March 30, 2013 Share Posted March 30, 2013 Super-critical stuff that will decide the fate of all races in the game -> PMs between myself and Basilisk Shhhhhhhh. Wolves do not announce themselves to the sheep. Quote I believe you find life such a problem because you think there are the good people and the bad people. You are wrong, of course. There are, always and only, the bad people, but some of them are on opposite sides. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeavyMetalSunshineSister Posted March 30, 2013 Share Posted March 30, 2013 I'm trying out a new idea. See, being completely obvious about our plans leads them to disregard the plans, and laugh them off. Surely I would never be so stupid as to announce my exact plans, in detail, before the game started. That would be ridiculous. Like if I went down the street announcing myself as an imperialistic space Nazi. So they'll never expect us to actually implement those exact plans, and so we'll have the upper... ...This isn't the PM. Welp. Plan B. They discover our plans, and plan around our plans, and then we plan around the plan that they are planning around our other plans. Quote We will remember - Skies may fade and stars may wane; we won't forget And your light shines bright - yes so much brighter shine on We will remember - Until the skies will fall we won't forget We will remember We all shall follow doom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Havelock Vetinari Posted March 30, 2013 Share Posted March 30, 2013 Yes yes, that makes sense, but if they find out about our plans to use the Skip Drive to blow up planets by mounting them on-uh..... .....Plan B it is. Quote I believe you find life such a problem because you think there are the good people and the bad people. You are wrong, of course. There are, always and only, the bad people, but some of them are on opposite sides. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lara White Posted March 30, 2013 Share Posted March 30, 2013 Meanwhile the rest of us are busy hashing out gameplay mechanics in Skype. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Havelock Vetinari Posted March 30, 2013 Share Posted March 30, 2013 You should all just assume we're plotting your destruction. All the time. It'll be easier that way. Quote I believe you find life such a problem because you think there are the good people and the bad people. You are wrong, of course. There are, always and only, the bad people, but some of them are on opposite sides. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xomeron Posted March 30, 2013 Share Posted March 30, 2013 As a note, unless specifically stated otherwise, I'll be assuming your ships use a Ramjet for propulsion, because that's usually the best choice. Quote That being said, thag thag thaggity thag thagness.-Rover "A memo was sent to Astaria asking if it would at all be possible to make a flying goat.""The Astarians responded that making a goat fly would be trivial; making it land safely would be another matter entirely." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Humva Posted March 30, 2013 Share Posted March 30, 2013 I think two RTSs on one forum is the most we should go for.I don't know if Spirits and Men counts though, seeing as there's no math or algebra, and even your spiritual discoveries are kept track of by the GMs. The only thing you need to do is remember your villager's names. I suggest numerical naming. Sextus, Septimus, the sort. Quote 1 1 2 3 5 8 13 21 34 55 89 "In short, my English Lit friend, living in a mental world of absolute rights and wrongs, may be imagining that because all theories are wrong, the earth may be thought spherical now, but cubical next century, and a hollow icosahedron the next, and a doughnut shape the one after." -Isaac Asimov, responding to a letter he had received saying that scientific certainty was false, The Relativity of Wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvan Haven Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 Just wanted to put my two cents on the IP system here. I like the idea that Humva had in Fields of Gold about getting a certain number of points in a certain time-frame. It takes the pressure off the player to SPEND EVERYTHING since you can use it later and makes it so that you can buy things from other players with something other then technology. Quote "I serve the weak. I serve the helpless. I am their sword and their shield. If you want to strike at them, you must go through me, and I am not so easily moved." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Humva Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 Yeah, we already discussed that in the Skype chat and it's been changed accordingly. Quote 1 1 2 3 5 8 13 21 34 55 89 "In short, my English Lit friend, living in a mental world of absolute rights and wrongs, may be imagining that because all theories are wrong, the earth may be thought spherical now, but cubical next century, and a hollow icosahedron the next, and a doughnut shape the one after." -Isaac Asimov, responding to a letter he had received saying that scientific certainty was false, The Relativity of Wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvan Haven Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 Alright, I might have been there if I had read about before it ended. Both RTS games look interesting but I'd probably just go with the space one due to time constraints. Also @Xomeron- six points seems like a little too few to spend. Several of the perks cost more then half your points for a rather limited gain. Quote "I serve the weak. I serve the helpless. I am their sword and their shield. If you want to strike at them, you must go through me, and I am not so easily moved." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xomeron Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 The gains from the Three Point traits are actually pretty huge. Artificial Gravity unlocks so much high engineering it's not even funny, Engineered For War can let you essentially dominate any infantry confrontation, and Transhuman Society means no one ever dies, along with all sorts of benefits. Six points seems like a fine amount to me, and I'm sticking with it. Economic SystemRacial TraitsShips(Work In Progress) Quote That being said, thag thag thaggity thag thagness.-Rover "A memo was sent to Astaria asking if it would at all be possible to make a flying goat.""The Astarians responded that making a goat fly would be trivial; making it land safely would be another matter entirely." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeavyMetalSunshineSister Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 I agree, six is plenty. More than enough, though unless I misread something the first go-round, you've upped Transhuman Society to 4 points, which rather neutralizes the idea of going half-in on it for Intermediate Transhumanism, i.e. prostheses, limited use of mind-uploading (most people die), mind-swapping as you suggested, etc. Am I going to have to just pick a one-point skill I frankly don't want (some are nice, none fit), or can we get a one-point Intermediate Transhumanism in here? Quote We will remember - Skies may fade and stars may wane; we won't forget And your light shines bright - yes so much brighter shine on We will remember - Until the skies will fall we won't forget We will remember We all shall follow doom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xomeron Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 I'd say pick a one-point one. Space Elevator? Any society would want to build one of those. Quote That being said, thag thag thaggity thag thagness.-Rover "A memo was sent to Astaria asking if it would at all be possible to make a flying goat.""The Astarians responded that making a goat fly would be trivial; making it land safely would be another matter entirely." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeavyMetalSunshineSister Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 Space Elevator isn't really their style, I'm afraid. Not at the outset. They would, however, be very interested in enhancing and fixing the body, using computer-brain interfaces for various applications, and not replacing their entire interface with a full-bore electronic transhumanist cyberspace society. Either a reassurance that this intermediate form I want is possible without spending points on it, or a cheaper, Transhumanist-lite package, would be very much appreciated, and, perhaps, vitally important to my intended playstyle. Quote We will remember - Skies may fade and stars may wane; we won't forget And your light shines bright - yes so much brighter shine on We will remember - Until the skies will fall we won't forget We will remember We all shall follow doom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Let's Henshin! Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 Space Elevator isn't really their style, I'm afraid. Not at the outset. They would, however, be very interested in enhancing and fixing the body, using computer-brain interfaces for various applications, and not replacing their entire interface with a full-bore electronic transhumanist cyberspace society. Either a reassurance that this intermediate form I want is possible without spending points on it, or a cheaper, Transhumanist-lite package, would be very much appreciated, and, perhaps, vitally important to my intended playstyle. Suggestion: Write up a description of the trait and send it to Xom, he'll see if it should be added. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toast of Awesomeness Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 Would you accept custom traits, Xom? Because the race I have in mind is rather unique, and the traits semi-lock you into a pattern. Basically I'm planning sentient hive-mind trees who manipulate the genetics of their wildlife to create host bodies when they desire to go off world. Their tech would be organic in nature, though the trees themselves are made of a natural metal alloy which would carry over to their tech. I'm just trying to figure out how I can achieve that with these options. Quote Well, would you just look at that? I'm a piece of toast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dRoko Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 (edited) Yay for soft sci-fi. Hated the facted that you need to be a mathematician to play IL and Starscape. (PS: Late to the party. I know.) Edited March 31, 2013 by Vahki-Nui Quote 8% of the people epically wins with comic making. If you are the 92% that fails at it, copy and paste this into your sig100% of people here are humans. If you are somehow a matoran, pate this in your sig.http://www.bzpower.com/board/index.php?showtopic=9187 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canis Lycaon Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 So, I have a couple of questions/comments on the traits system of the Starscape revival.Will we get a list of governments to choose from? What is being used to define 'Hazardous environment'? For the race that evolved in one, then that environment is perfectly normal to them. Will satellites have artificial gravity even if you didn't buy that trait? It says that transhuman ships are driven by personalities. What does this mean? Is it necessary to get Space Launch? What does it do, anyway? Can my race get attributes they didn't start with? (Tech attribute wise)This looks really good overall. Humanoid wolf race, here I come! Quote I used to have a banner here. But that RPG is dead. What now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xomeron Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 (edited) Space Elevator isn't really their style, I'm afraid. Not at the outset. They would, however, be very interested in enhancing and fixing the body, using computer-brain interfaces for various applications, and not replacing their entire interface with a full-bore electronic transhumanist cyberspace society. Either a reassurance that this intermediate form I want is possible without spending points on it, or a cheaper, Transhumanist-lite package, would be very much appreciated, and, perhaps, vitally important to my intended playstyle. Write it up and send it to me. Would you accept custom traits, Xom? Because the race I have in mind is rather unique, and the traits semi-lock you into a pattern. Basically I'm planning sentient hive-mind trees who manipulate the genetics of their wildlife to create host bodies when they desire to go off world. Their tech would be organic in nature, though the trees themselves are made of a natural metal alloy which would carry over to their tech. I'm just trying to figure out how I can achieve that with these options.Genetic Masters and Biotech, plus an FTL drive of some sort. So, I have a couple of questions/comments on the traits system of the Starscape revival.Will we get a list of governments to choose from? What is being used to define 'Hazardous environment'? For the race that evolved in one, then that environment is perfectly normal to them. Will satellites have artificial gravity even if you didn't buy that trait? It says that transhuman ships are driven by personalities. What does this mean? Is it necessary to get Space Launch? What does it do, anyway? Can my race get attributes they didn't start with? (Tech attribute wise)This looks really good overall. Humanoid wolf race, here I come!1: Your governments aren't listed; they're completely open ended.2: Humans are used as the average here.3: Artificial Gravity is the use of Gravity Projectors. If you don't buy that trait, your race can't build Gravity Projectors.4: Basically, in transhuman society everyone is an AI, and the ships are run by them. That's the most basic way to put it.5: Not necessary, Interstellar Launch is mostly used with the Superlight drive, since those ships need to get up to 5% lightspeed somehow.6: Yes, research and purchasing technology from other races are the best ways to do it. Edited March 31, 2013 by Xomeron Quote That being said, thag thag thaggity thag thagness.-Rover "A memo was sent to Astaria asking if it would at all be possible to make a flying goat.""The Astarians responded that making a goat fly would be trivial; making it land safely would be another matter entirely." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thelonewander Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 Can we have alliances with other species at the start, or is this first contact for us? Quote War...war never changes.We crawl, on our knees for you,under, a sky no longer blue, we sweat, all day long for you.But we sow, seeds to see us though,cause sometimes dreams just don't come true, we wait, to reap what we are due.-Rise Against, Re-Education (through Labor) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toast of Awesomeness Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 Being a hive mind, would they have to have perfect dictatorship, or can I just use the hive-mind trait? Quote Well, would you just look at that? I'm a piece of toast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thelonewander Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 I would think not, as they are just one mind with many bodies, if I read the trait description right. Quote War...war never changes.We crawl, on our knees for you,under, a sky no longer blue, we sweat, all day long for you.But we sow, seeds to see us though,cause sometimes dreams just don't come true, we wait, to reap what we are due.-Rise Against, Re-Education (through Labor) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xomeron Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 Can we have alliances with other species at the start, or is this first contact for us? First contactBeing a hive mind, would they have to have perfect dictatorship, or can I just use the hive-mind trait?Hive Mind is good enough. Perfect Dictatorship has some very specific effects Quote That being said, thag thag thaggity thag thagness.-Rover "A memo was sent to Astaria asking if it would at all be possible to make a flying goat.""The Astarians responded that making a goat fly would be trivial; making it land safely would be another matter entirely." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeavyMetalSunshineSister Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 Out of curiosity, what is the typical expected space occupancy of a computer containing all that is necessary for a fully-functioning mind? Quote We will remember - Skies may fade and stars may wane; we won't forget And your light shines bright - yes so much brighter shine on We will remember - Until the skies will fall we won't forget We will remember We all shall follow doom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Humva Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 And by that effect, what processing speeds? I could go on all day about the exact technicalities but alas that'd be better suited towards my computer science friend and not me, so a general idea of processing power as well as storage for brain uploads and/or sapient AI would be good. Quote 1 1 2 3 5 8 13 21 34 55 89 "In short, my English Lit friend, living in a mental world of absolute rights and wrongs, may be imagining that because all theories are wrong, the earth may be thought spherical now, but cubical next century, and a hollow icosahedron the next, and a doughnut shape the one after." -Isaac Asimov, responding to a letter he had received saying that scientific certainty was false, The Relativity of Wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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