HeavyMetalSunshineSister Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 The same could technically be done for any biological humans that have had some significant cultural event - be it years of enslavement, or just isolation, or even a particular ecosystem that shaped their culture. For the interests of this RPG, it is best to keep the Lorrdians human, for accuracy and to avoid confusion. You still get to say that the character is Lorrdian in the Homeworld section, so it's not a big sacrifice to make. Quote We will remember - Skies may fade and stars may wane; we won't forget And your light shines bright - yes so much brighter shine on We will remember - Until the skies will fall we won't forget We will remember We all shall follow doom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
otter Posted June 25, 2013 Share Posted June 25, 2013 I would say that if Republic Census Takers in-universe considered there culture different enough to label them as a seperate species, it should be good enough for me to label him as Lorrdian instead of Human. It's not like anybody's going to be unable to figure out that he's of Human blood when they look at his appearance or look up Lorrdian's on their own, is it? Quote profiles i guess i'm a south american giant otter now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeavyMetalSunshineSister Posted June 25, 2013 Share Posted June 25, 2013 Culture does not determine species. If in-universe census takers made that mistake, that is not my problem. Quote We will remember - Skies may fade and stars may wane; we won't forget And your light shines bright - yes so much brighter shine on We will remember - Until the skies will fall we won't forget We will remember We all shall follow doom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
otter Posted June 25, 2013 Share Posted June 25, 2013 No, but oftentimes even in our own history cultural differences have been shown enough to influence some more domineering types to classify others as belong to a lower rung on the evolutionary ladder, hmm?Anyways, I compromised. So there. Quote profiles i guess i'm a south american giant otter now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeavyMetalSunshineSister Posted June 25, 2013 Share Posted June 25, 2013 Promised Land, the active comlink is on the severed arm. Not really sure why he's applying pressure to a now-detached appendage during an interrogation. Otter, I'm going to wait for a second opinion on that profile, make sure there aren't any problems I've missed. Quote We will remember - Skies may fade and stars may wane; we won't forget And your light shines bright - yes so much brighter shine on We will remember - Until the skies will fall we won't forget We will remember We all shall follow doom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Promised Land Posted June 25, 2013 Share Posted June 25, 2013 Ah, I see. I wasn't really too sure how much of the arm had been cut off and I thought that the commlink was still on whatever was still attached to the Togruta, since I didn't see any post actually saying they brought the arm with them. Quote His former links: The Legend of Zelda: The Fouth Triforce, Trials of Brothers (review), Seven Eyes of the Dead, Yu-Gi-Oh!- Darkness Returns!Personal Links: Astray, Kit Preview Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madara: Mangekyou Master Posted June 25, 2013 Share Posted June 25, 2013 Darth Lutra - No problem with the Jedi Weapons Specialist. +1PL - I don't recall the Padawan and Gurrox moving at all. The arm's been lying on the ground, which is why the Togruta had to fake a dizzy spell to fall on top of it and activate the commlink. It's too bad the lightsaber was kicked away. Quote STAR WARS GALAXY AT WAR ... we have cookies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeavyMetalSunshineSister Posted June 25, 2013 Share Posted June 25, 2013 Well if Madara doesn't have a problem with Mr. Flashy Sword Stuff, +2. Quote We will remember - Skies may fade and stars may wane; we won't forget And your light shines bright - yes so much brighter shine on We will remember - Until the skies will fall we won't forget We will remember We all shall follow doom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madara: Mangekyou Master Posted June 26, 2013 Share Posted June 26, 2013 So, originally, Carawyn Jade was intended to be the apprentice of a character made by EW. Unfortunately, as it stands, it seems like EW won't be joining anytime soon. In light of this, I'm changing Jade to an orphaned Padawan. :'( Quote STAR WARS GALAXY AT WAR ... we have cookies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van Hohenheim Posted June 26, 2013 Share Posted June 26, 2013 I had an evilly awful idea. what if I made Nentir's original apprentice a sith? >:3 Quote Previously known as Aiwendil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeavyMetalSunshineSister Posted June 26, 2013 Share Posted June 26, 2013 What if you made Nentir's original apprentice a rancor? Quote We will remember - Skies may fade and stars may wane; we won't forget And your light shines bright - yes so much brighter shine on We will remember - Until the skies will fall we won't forget We will remember We all shall follow doom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van Hohenheim Posted June 26, 2013 Share Posted June 26, 2013 but what if he wasn't? Quote Previously known as Aiwendil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Promised Land Posted June 26, 2013 Share Posted June 26, 2013 I kind of like the idea of a Rancor wielding a lightsaber like a toothpick. Anyway, I've edited my last post so that Zane and Gurrox aren't moving and Zane hasn't discovered the commlink. Quote His former links: The Legend of Zelda: The Fouth Triforce, Trials of Brothers (review), Seven Eyes of the Dead, Yu-Gi-Oh!- Darkness Returns!Personal Links: Astray, Kit Preview Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
otter Posted June 26, 2013 Share Posted June 26, 2013 A rancor would be more likely to wield a lightclub like a dagger. Quote profiles i guess i'm a south american giant otter now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Havelock Vetinari Posted June 26, 2013 Author Share Posted June 26, 2013 (edited) More news from the exciting life of Basilisk: I'm tired, consistantly out of energy after work and all I can think about is how soft my bed would be right now. But I haven't posted in four days and if this keeps up I'll fall completely behind. So guess what I'm forcing myself to do? Edited June 26, 2013 by Basilisk Quote I believe you find life such a problem because you think there are the good people and the bad people. You are wrong, of course. There are, always and only, the bad people, but some of them are on opposite sides. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeavyMetalSunshineSister Posted June 26, 2013 Share Posted June 26, 2013 Alter your hours of availability to give you more time to actually be on break from college? Quote We will remember - Skies may fade and stars may wane; we won't forget And your light shines bright - yes so much brighter shine on We will remember - Until the skies will fall we won't forget We will remember We all shall follow doom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Havelock Vetinari Posted June 26, 2013 Author Share Posted June 26, 2013 Actually, I just stole the soul of some random fellow (it's okay, he was a member of an organization I disagree with so it wasn't murder) so I'd have the energy needed to type up an uber-long post covering everything. Quote I believe you find life such a problem because you think there are the good people and the bad people. You are wrong, of course. There are, always and only, the bad people, but some of them are on opposite sides. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madara: Mangekyou Master Posted June 26, 2013 Share Posted June 26, 2013 Structure your posts so you take it one bite at a time in order to conserve your soul energy and prevent RP fatigue? Quote STAR WARS GALAXY AT WAR ... we have cookies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeavyMetalSunshineSister Posted June 27, 2013 Share Posted June 27, 2013 Currently debating whether to apply movie monster logic or ambush predator logic to the rancor fight. The former, of course, demands that it fight until either dead or victorious. The latter would necessitate a change in strategy upon reception of grievous injury - if blinded, it would become panicked and thrash about, unable to retreat but more afraid and angry than engaging in standard hunting behavior. If wounded enough to convince it that this meal is too costly, but still capable of retreating, then it would take that route. Quote We will remember - Skies may fade and stars may wane; we won't forget And your light shines bright - yes so much brighter shine on We will remember - Until the skies will fall we won't forget We will remember We all shall follow doom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flex Lord Splash Posted June 27, 2013 Share Posted June 27, 2013 Hey Madara, any idea where Chubs would be? I'm thinking he'd still be in Jade's speeder... Quote BZP-RPG Profiles Marvel Profiles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeavyMetalSunshineSister Posted June 27, 2013 Share Posted June 27, 2013 (edited) Madara stated in an IC that Chubs had been left in the care of a clone medic. Any input offered regarding how the rancor's behaviour should be handled will be considered. Edited June 27, 2013 by Ymper Trymon Quote We will remember - Skies may fade and stars may wane; we won't forget And your light shines bright - yes so much brighter shine on We will remember - Until the skies will fall we won't forget We will remember We all shall follow doom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
otter Posted June 27, 2013 Share Posted June 27, 2013 Go with natural predator style. Movie monster style isn't nearly as scary unless that Rancor suddenly proves to have skin of adamantium. Quote profiles i guess i'm a south american giant otter now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flex Lord Splash Posted June 27, 2013 Share Posted June 27, 2013 Thanks that is good to know. I've always thought Rancors to be sort of stupid. I mean the whole grenade thing in KOTOR 1... Quote BZP-RPG Profiles Marvel Profiles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madara: Mangekyou Master Posted June 27, 2013 Share Posted June 27, 2013 (edited) Well, they can shrug off blaster bolts without blinking. Tough hide.Will post in about an hour. Edited June 27, 2013 by Madara: Mangekyou Master Quote STAR WARS GALAXY AT WAR ... we have cookies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeavyMetalSunshineSister Posted June 27, 2013 Share Posted June 27, 2013 Well, the movie monster logic makes for a somewhat more impressive encounter, in some ways - even if you managed to, say, rip one of its arms off, it would still keep trying to kill you, whereas a partially-dismembered ambush predator would know the game was up, and retreat as quickly as possible. Still leaning towards the realistic version, though, given the lecture Basilisk posted. Sensible behaviour in dominance contests implies the behaviour of a real animal, not a movie monster. Quote We will remember - Skies may fade and stars may wane; we won't forget And your light shines bright - yes so much brighter shine on We will remember - Until the skies will fall we won't forget We will remember We all shall follow doom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
otter Posted June 27, 2013 Share Posted June 27, 2013 (edited) Thanks that is good to know. I've always thought Rancors to be sort of stupid. I mean the whole grenade thing in KOTOR 1... Y'know, there's a difference between having a Rancor that's been stuck in a sewer for years and years and one that's been out in a natural habitat, allowed to develop the right experiences for a wild animal. Whereas, if you're stuck down in a sewer, half-starved, and something smells good, you're probably going to eat it no matter what. Well, the movie monster logic makes for a somewhat more impressive encounter, in some ways - even if you managed to, say, rip one of its arms off, it would still keep trying to kill you, whereas a partially-dismembered ambush predator would know the game was up, and retreat as quickly as possible. Still leaning towards the realistic version, though, given the lecture Basilisk posted. Sensible behaviour in dominance contests implies the behaviour of a real animal, not a movie monster. Meanwhile, if it was semi-sentient like One-Arm, it would let the people get away once it lost a limb and then plot to get rid of them later. I like Wampas. Edited June 27, 2013 by The Otter Quote profiles i guess i'm a south american giant otter now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toa Levacius Zehvor Posted June 27, 2013 Share Posted June 27, 2013 (edited) Well, the movie monster logic makes for a somewhat more impressive encounter, in some ways - even if you managed to, say, rip one of its arms off, it would still keep trying to kill you, whereas a partially-dismembered ambush predator would know the game was up, and retreat as quickly as possible. Still leaning towards the realistic version, though, given the lecture Basilisk posted. Sensible behaviour in dominance contests implies the behaviour of a real animal, not a movie monster. Well, if you want the Rancor to put up a heavier, longer fight... why not give it a reason? Perhaps if you were to make it so this Rancor had young somewhere nearby that it was protecting, and out on the hunt for, then you could give it a motivation. Perhaps a mate, if you really want to mess with the apprentices day; just having the young to protect would make one dangerous enough! EDIT: Basically, a realistic portrayal of the animal with a realistic reason to be more aggressive; you get the best of both scenarios. -Toa Levacius Zehvor Edited June 27, 2013 by Toa Levacius Zehvor Quote "I disapprove of what you have to say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it." - Evelyn Beatrice Hall (often attributed to Voltaire) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flex Lord Splash Posted June 27, 2013 Share Posted June 27, 2013 Y'know, there's a difference between having a Rancor that's been stuck in a sewer for years and years and one that's been out in a natural habitat, allowed to develop the right experiences for a wild animal. Whereas, if you're stuck down in a sewer, half-starved, and something smells good, you're probably going to eat it no matter what. That does make sense. I guess really the only Rancors I've known about have been the ones stuck either beneath Jaba's lair or down in the sewers like you said. Quote BZP-RPG Profiles Marvel Profiles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeavyMetalSunshineSister Posted June 27, 2013 Share Posted June 27, 2013 Even if it has young nearby, unless they are actually directly threatened, it will not risk greater injury for this meal, when there are other possibilities elsewhere. A slightly injured parent with no food is better for them than a dead or dying parent that managed to bring down one prey item. Also, while Star Wars and other sci-fi uses the term 'sentient' to describe human-like intelligence, the correct word is sapient. Sentient simply means that the creature is capable of receiving sensory input - ants are sentient. Quote We will remember - Skies may fade and stars may wane; we won't forget And your light shines bright - yes so much brighter shine on We will remember - Until the skies will fall we won't forget We will remember We all shall follow doom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
otter Posted June 27, 2013 Share Posted June 27, 2013 (edited) Well, the movie monster logic makes for a somewhat more impressive encounter, in some ways - even if you managed to, say, rip one of its arms off, it would still keep trying to kill you, whereas a partially-dismembered ambush predator would know the game was up, and retreat as quickly as possible. Still leaning towards the realistic version, though, given the lecture Basilisk posted. Sensible behaviour in dominance contests implies the behaviour of a real animal, not a movie monster. Well, if you want the Rancor to put up a heavier, longer fight... why not give it a reason? Perhaps if you were to make it so this Rancor had young somewhere nearby that it was protecting, and out on the hunt for, then you could give it a motivation. Perhaps a mate, if you really want to mess with the apprentices day; just having the young to protect would make one dangerous enough! EDIT: Basically, a realistic portrayal of the animal with a realistic reason to be more aggressive; you get the best of both scenarios. -Toa Levacius Zehvor That could work. Even if it has young nearby, unless they are actually directly threatened, it will not risk greater injury for this meal, when there are other possibilities elsewhere. A slightly injured parent with no food is better for them than a dead or dying parent that managed to bring down one prey item. Also, while Star Wars and other sci-fi uses the term 'sentient' to describe human-like intelligence, the correct word is sapient. Sentient simply means that the creature is capable of receiving sensory input - ants are sentient. I've been stuck in the Star Wars fandom and story long enough that it just kinda comes natural to me to say "sentient" rather than sapient, bleh. Jaba's lairReally. Edited June 27, 2013 by The Otter Quote profiles i guess i'm a south american giant otter now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flex Lord Splash Posted June 27, 2013 Share Posted June 27, 2013 My bad, Jabba. Hey does anyone here play SWTOR by chance? Quote BZP-RPG Profiles Marvel Profiles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
otter Posted June 27, 2013 Share Posted June 27, 2013 Both it and the two (much better) games that preceded it. Quote profiles i guess i'm a south american giant otter now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toa Levacius Zehvor Posted June 27, 2013 Share Posted June 27, 2013 Even if it has young nearby, unless they are actually directly threatened, it will not risk greater injury for this meal, when there are other possibilities elsewhere. A slightly injured parent with no food is better for them than a dead or dying parent that managed to bring down one prey item. That's because you're still thinking of this as a meal. There's young nearby and it's trying to protect them. Animals do that quite frequently, both predator and prey alike. The parent will fight to the death to protect its young. As an optional twist, you could have the Apprentices stumble off a little ways after the Rancor fight to find the young (but still somewhat dangerous) Rancor hidden away, and with a plentiful amount of food laying before them. So basically, you're telling the players "This thing had no reason to die other than you coming too close to its young." If half of these apprentices weren't psychopaths that might actually have some impact... So then you give them the choice - kill the young Rancor, or leave them be (in a situation where they could quite feasibly die, as they have no idea if its a mated pair). That might make for an interesting scene to maybe show how the characters think. And heck, leave them be isn't necessarily the only other option. Perhaps someone could bring up that training them would be a possibility, if a hard one, due to their younger age? Or have them captured and sold? Just spilling out a few thoughts. -Toa Levacius Zehvor Quote "I disapprove of what you have to say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it." - Evelyn Beatrice Hall (often attributed to Voltaire) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flex Lord Splash Posted June 27, 2013 Share Posted June 27, 2013 Both it and the two (much better) games that preceded it. Yeah they are but its not bad for an MMO. Actually my favorite MMO so far. Much more substanial then WoW for instance imo. Quote BZP-RPG Profiles Marvel Profiles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
otter Posted June 27, 2013 Share Posted June 27, 2013 Regardless, why do you ask? Because (despite all appearances to the contrary that myself and others have cultivated) this isn't the right thread for a random discussion about it. =P Quote profiles i guess i'm a south american giant otter now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geardirector Posted June 27, 2013 Share Posted June 27, 2013 Both it and the two (much better) games that preceded it. Yeah they are but its not bad for an MMO. Actually my favorite MMO so far. Much more substanial then WoW for instance imo. For a brief period in time this would've been me too, but TOR took up too much space on my hardrive. Quote BZPRPG Profiles Nuparu-Ferron-Mar-Zelvin-Wiremu-Farzan-Mako-Krex-Tamachan-??? Akiri Nuparu Posts: 1. 2. ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toa Levacius Zehvor Posted June 27, 2013 Share Posted June 27, 2013 (edited) Hey does anyone here play SWTOR by chance? Both it and the two (much better) games that preceded it. Yeah they are but its not bad for an MMO. Actually my favorite MMO so far. Much more substanial then WoW for instance imo. Seeing as I have both Guild Wars and, if I ever spend way too many hours downloading the client again after the original file got corrupted, Guild Wars 2, I refuse to touch any MMO save for free trials. So unless there's a free trial sitting around I'll probably never even touch TOR. Except Elder Scrolls Online, because I'm a fanboy. While we're here. For a brief period in time this would've been me too, but TOR took up too much space on my hardrive. ... how small is your hard drive? ._. EDIT: And a little more on topic, just something to add @ Ymper. Killing the rancor young also provides an opportunity to get a bit of Rancor leather. For, you know, the areas of the body that the adult Rancor is too thick to be used for as efficiently. Like gloves. Gloves are useful. -Toa Levacius Zehvor Edited June 27, 2013 by Toa Levacius Zehvor Quote "I disapprove of what you have to say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it." - Evelyn Beatrice Hall (often attributed to Voltaire) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geardirector Posted June 27, 2013 Share Posted June 27, 2013 While we're here. For a brief period in time this would've been me too, but TOR took up too much space on my hardrive. ... how small is your hard drive? ._. My harddrive's nearly 60 GB, but TOR takes up almost half of that, and I don't have that much space. Quote BZPRPG Profiles Nuparu-Ferron-Mar-Zelvin-Wiremu-Farzan-Mako-Krex-Tamachan-??? Akiri Nuparu Posts: 1. 2. ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flex Lord Splash Posted June 27, 2013 Share Posted June 27, 2013 Actually there is a free trial. That's the only reason I currently play it . Its more like a free version. You can play the entire game and whatnot just level slower and get a few less ammenities that the pay to play get but so far I've seen no reason to subscribe. The reason that I brought this up anyway was I thought it might be fun to play with a few other SW fans online. There server I'm on even has people who RP and stuff in game, I do it a bit can be fun. Quote BZP-RPG Profiles Marvel Profiles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeavyMetalSunshineSister Posted June 27, 2013 Share Posted June 27, 2013 Eh, the thing is, I've basically established that this is a food-motivated ambush, and any animal that leaves its young that close to the water's edge is probably terminally stupid. So that leaves a question that is mainly Madara's to answer, really - how likely is it that the Force-based attack on its eyes blinded it? If yes, it'll go frothing mad and start thrashing at everything. If no, it'll probably blink on instinct, thrash a bit, and continue normal behaviour until it has a reason to discontinue. Quote We will remember - Skies may fade and stars may wane; we won't forget And your light shines bright - yes so much brighter shine on We will remember - Until the skies will fall we won't forget We will remember We all shall follow doom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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