Havelock Vetinari

It's called "covering one's rear end in case this goes wrong".

Tis a delicate art.

In my defense....uh...

My inner viking told me to. And he had a large axe. Would you disagree with a man who had a large axe?

Oh no. How dare they expect you to broaden your horizons and learn something else and about how different people think.

Wouldn't want to become tolerant now would you? Those fiends. Those evil fiends.

Jean, Mm. Speaking as a radical of sorts, I can agree with this to an extent. Being a radical doesn't automatically make one a purist. There have been "middle way" radicals before. Purists, if I am using the term correctly, don't tend to compromise much. Or at all in some cases. Being so certain they are right that they will refuse to review evidence in a non-biased manner. This essay also assumes humans are fundamentally flawed, considering the civilization we have built and considering our lack of any advantage besides our intellect (tigers, for example, have nasty teeth and claws...compared to our finger nails, which as best, are mildly annoyed if we haven't trimmed them inawhile, we lost most natural offensive options by the time we went bipedal I believe, I can check the fossil record if needed) the fact we managed to triumph over all other forms of life and become the dominant species on this planet tells me that if we are flawed, those flaws are far from crippling. I'm not certain we are, do individuals have faulty wiring sometimes (Murderers, sociopaths etc)? Yes. But that's like one computer out of a million breaking down. Doesn't mean the whole line of computers is ruined. We have biological flaws certainly (our spine is *not* ideal. We got screwed over there) but mental flaws like those you are implying? Considering the massive amount of differing cultures we have created, I am doubtful of any lasting species-wide mental flaw.

Skyland: Saying "someone will never change my mind" tells me you aren't taking it logically. I try to make choices based on evidence and logic, not what I "feel" is right. What I feel doesn't matter. Reality does.

Bah. It's just one of the Shoggoths. Calm down people.

Your pain. I feel it.

I like Ike. You like Ike....

The bad comedy. It burns us. Make it go away.

How do you respond to rumors of Shoggoths and Deep Ones forming an alliance and launching an attack on a Russian military submarine?

You touched the Al Azif didn't you?

When will you address rumors about a copy of the fabled Al Azif (AKA Necronomicon) being held in the People's Library?

I'm voting for Great Cthulhu. He, unlike the other candidates, has a solid record going back for quadrillions of terror-filled years.

Cthulhu 2012!

I subscribe to the tough love philosophy. Mainly the "you do something stupid, then the character your controlling who is performing aforementioned stupid action will probably die" school of thought.

The tanks. For the reasons Xaeraz outlines. Seriously people.

Tanks. The Mataron would lose so fast it isn't even funny.

Mm. Sorry for bothering you then. Mostly stems from the fact that if I can't beat people up about politics, then I'm not going to let someone else have that kind of fun.

Considering what your "about me" says I assume this is your way of mocking your ideological opposites. Does this not violate the "No Politic's" rule?

....Because Rarity's rock metaphor doesn't work?

The whole thing has confused me.

Again. Irony. A fan of a show that is based on tolerance and acceptance on this side of the homosexuality debate....

Incidentally, if you don't "agree" with a thing that's a part of a person's entire being, that preclude accepting them. It's kinda common sense.

Why should someone try to co-exist with someone who thinks they should deny who they are and would see that pass into law if they had the power to do so?

If the Lions are hunting down every Hyena on the Savannah, the Lions aren't in much of a position to complain when the Hyenas start to attack them on sight.

I find it immensely confusing that someone who is an avowed fan of a show that's all about friendship and tolerance is taking this stance on homosexuality. Quite a contradiction.

Indeed. There are scientific studies that support this. Disagreeing with the copious amounts of studies done on this....is just stubborn.

^Rayg's approach is a healthy one.

This was a well-thought out and very valid piece of logic and very persuasive to those who use logic and acknowledge it.

Sadly, logic doesn't work against the forces you have aligned yourself against.

Finally. Sanity.

Good luck Gato. That's really all I can say.