Devorath Posted October 22, 2011 Share Posted October 22, 2011 I was just wondering whether Makuta could shadow hand in antidermis form.That would explain why Teridax got bigger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toa kopaka4372 Posted October 22, 2011 Share Posted October 22, 2011 (edited) I don't see how a being made of gas can absorb something into himself/herself, so I'm going to say no. I'm not 100% sure though. Edited October 22, 2011 by toa kopaka4372 Quote Credit goes to Linus Van Pelt (Formerly known as Cherixon) and Spectral Avohkii EnterprisesMy Memoirs of the Dead entry, Reflectons:http://www.bzpower.com/board/index.php?showtopic=7351 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toa Smoke Monster Posted October 22, 2011 Share Posted October 22, 2011 (edited) I don't think so. I don't remember any time in the story where a Makuta used his shadow powers in his antidermis form. In fact, I don't think they even can use that power without their antidermis being housed in a body.And what do you mean when you say 'Teridax got bigger?' Are you talking about when he absorbed Nidhiki, Krekka, and Nivawk into his body in 04? If that is the case, the absorption of them made Teridax's Makuta armor bigger, not the Makuta himself. Edited November 11, 2011 by The Smoke Monster Quote Everyone is one choice away from being the bad guy in another person's story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Touko Fukawa Posted October 23, 2011 Share Posted October 23, 2011 I think the shadow hand is used for the specific purpose of ab-sorbing other beings into oneself, which I gravely doubt would be possible as a cloud of gas. Quote "Only the insane equate pain with success. Only the savage regard endurance of pain as a measure of worth.Only the foolish consider pain to be just wages for being different".- The Cheshire Cat (American McGee's Alice/Alice:Madness Returns) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jam Pot Studios Posted October 23, 2011 Share Posted October 23, 2011 Unless we look at Makuta at psionic entities housed within those clouds of gas, in which case I think they'd be able to use the shadow hand. Quote Blog|YouTube|Flickr Making brickfilms since 2007. Check out my latest animations: , , and Avengers Tower! The first episode of Nuva, Magnetic Mania, is now live! Check it out! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triggons Posted October 23, 2011 Share Posted October 23, 2011 Sorry to get off topic, but can a Makuta use any powers while in antidermis form? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erebus Posted October 23, 2011 Share Posted October 23, 2011 We know Makuta can use telepathy in their Antidermis form; in Chapter 6 of Brothers In Arms, Makuta Tridax tried to either mentally attack or telepathically plead with Tobduk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghosthands Posted October 23, 2011 Share Posted October 23, 2011 I would say yes. When we are told about Shadow Hands, Greg often describes it as "being absorbed into Makuta's essence". Makuta's essence = Antidermis. As for the use of powers, a Makuta's armour is just that: armour. I don't see why being inside it would make a difference to their ability to use powers. As a Makuta is Antidermis, I would think that in their free form they would still have control of their powers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toa Smoke Monster Posted October 23, 2011 Share Posted October 23, 2011 (edited) Sorry to get off topic, but can a Makuta use any powers while in antidermis form?I believe they use any powers that don't require their armor to use. (Like Fire and Ice Resistance and Shape-Shifting) However, I read on another site that "Makuta in their antidermis forms could only use their telepathic powers', though I'm not sure if that is true. Also, to add on to what I said to the topic-starting member, I found this quote on the Bs01 Makuta page.All Makuta have the ability to absorb and convert other beings into mass for their armor. I think it answers your question. Edited October 23, 2011 by The Smoke Monster Quote Everyone is one choice away from being the bad guy in another person's story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erebus Posted October 23, 2011 Share Posted October 23, 2011 The Smoke Monster is right about shape-shifting: 8. How did Antidermis get all the way to Voya Nui?8) Since Makuta is a shapeshifter, he can transform his energy from gas to liquid and back again. Gas floats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALVIS Posted October 23, 2011 Share Posted October 23, 2011 In antidermic state, as I like to call it, Makuta are unable to use certain powers that they need armor to focus through, such as fire and ice resistance, laser vision, and shapeshifting (to an extent). I think the shadow hand, described as being a power that draws in mass for their armor, would need to be used through armor to work. Quote "You are not entitled to your opinion. You are entitled to your informed opinion. No one is entitled to be ignorant." -- Harlan Ellison Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Makuta Matata Posted October 23, 2011 Share Posted October 23, 2011 Probably not. Antidermis by itself really can't do much, just float around and be evil. it needs armor to actually use it's power. I think. Quote Three on Three - Memoirs of the Dead - Winner!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Makuta_of_Oz Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 Antidermis with no armour can only use mental powers like Illusion and Telepathy. It needs a physical body to access the rest, including making a shadow hand. Quote If you use correct grammar in your posts (or try hard to), place this in your signature. Join Myst's campaign for correct grammar usage on BZPower! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Konuju Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 I don't think they can; the Shadow Hand makes their body (armor) bigger by absorbing things into it, but I don't think it would actually make their antidermis form bigger. Quote Konuju: Kopaka and Nuju meet the Spear of Fusion Quotes from throughout the years: 2001: "Your past is forgotten, and your future is an empty book. You must find your own destiny, my brave adventurer." --Nokama2002: "Mata Nui faces perhaps its greatest challenge -- one that will test our courage, our strength, and our belief in each other." --Tahu2003: "So... it has begun, my brother. But soon, it will also end..." --Makuta2004: "Your journey must end." "By the will of the Great Spirit, it has just begun!" --Makuta and Vakama2005: "Our destinies are not written in stone, set in place. They are something we have to find for ourselves." --Vakama2006: "Don't you realize you're fighting for a lost cause?" "Maybe. But don't you realize those are the only ones worth fighting for?" --Axonn and Brutaka2007: "Sometimes a hero has to do something else besides beat the villains and come home covered in glory." --Hahli2008: "Dive into the darkness, Ignite the flame within. Now, there is no turning back. Make the future... begin." --Narrator, The Final Battle Animation2009: "It is said that all endings are merely beginnings waiting to be born." --Mata Nui2010: "All journeys must come to an end, but this time, there is a new beginning as well. ... All that has gone before, my friends, has only served to give birth to this new day. Let unity, duty and destiny be your guides." --Mata Nui2011: "Not dead. Just frozen. They’ll thaw out … eventually. I’m tired of villains spouting gibberish." --Kopaka Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akuna Toa of Sonics Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 Since they're made of gas and have no body shell, I don't think so. Quote Does anyone want to play the Master Chief Collection with me? I'm trying to get a team going for ranked. PM for GT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The 1st Shadow Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 The only powers Makuta can use in their antidermis form are the lesser mental ones, nothing physical. That rules out shadow, and, by extension, the shadow hand. It's a definite no. Quote ~Your friendly, neighborhood Shadow ~Credit for Avatar and Banner goes to NickonAquaMagna~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voxumo Posted November 11, 2011 Share Posted November 11, 2011 Alright i must say that during bionicle legends of metru-nui the movie Teridax transforms into what appears to be a giant gas cloud moving in a clockwise direction above the coliseum, so in all reality isn't it possible that he used his shadow hand to grab nihdiki krekka. so this is my theory it may not be correct but i think i have all the facts for it down. Quote Banner made by Onaku BZPRPG CHARACTERS Syvra-Tivanu If you interact with one of my characters and I don't respond or acknowledge the interaction within a day, send me a PM. Odds are I missed or did not see the post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron Von Nebula Posted November 16, 2011 Share Posted November 16, 2011 I don't think this could happen, since it would mean Makuta in antidermis form could absorb random Matoran/other beings to create new armor. It would basically nullify the "antidermis disperses if out of armor for too long" weakness. Quote Read my comedy, about the Hero Factory villains watching a television channel produced by our Spherus Magnan friends!The Bionicle Channel "I expect that when I write my next entry in this chronicle, I will be writing as uncontested ruler of the Brotherhood."-Certainty, my Memoirs of the Dead entry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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