Kaleidoscope Tekulo Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 Oh dude. It was like the best conversation. How could it possibly be cut for time? Quote Executive Vice President of Tomato Throwing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonkle Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 Oh dude. It was like the best conversation. How could it possibly be cut for time?My stuff gets streamlined sometimes too. Like my vague mention of maybe joining the Knights got converted into me actually doing it. Quote I been away a long time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toru Nui Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 I'm referring to the fact that I've seen PMs from Jungle players who are actively trying to ally their region with the rest of us who are against the Faith. Therefore I, the player, know that the nonsense that Toru, the player, is spouting in the topic are outright lies. 1/3 does not equal all of them. Funny how you conveniently disregard all of the horrible things that the Faith have done over the centuries. And you also seem to forget that the Knights were formed during the Long Night, and are currently based in the Ice Region. They sure as heck know how to wield swords. And plenty of other weapons, too.I am not disregarding anything. As has been stated before, I'm the antagonist, but that does not automatically make you the good guy. You are not any better than me, Mr. Greasy Greavesy. And when was the last time they ever actually used these swords? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nato G Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 1/3 does not equal all of them. Um... what? I'm really not sure where you're getting that from. I even used the words players. With an S. Players. Plural. Meaning more than one. 1 Quote Embers - A Bionicle Saga - Chapters/Review Class Is Out - A Farewell To Corpus Rahkshi - Chapters/Review BZPRPG Characters - Minnorak, Kain, T'harrak, Savis, Vazaria, Lash BZPRPG Mercenary Group - The Outsiders - Description - History - Base Ghosts Of Bara Magna - Ash Tribe - Precipere - Kehla, Somok, Skrall, Gayle, Avinus, Zha'ar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toru Nui Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 There are only three players in the Jungle Region. One of which is very clearly pro-Knight. And I know for a fact that the other two SHOULD be Faithful. You did get a group PM for your organization like we did, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nato G Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 Correction: there were three players for the Jungle Region. One is dead. One is pro-Knight. One has a long family history of betraying alliances and making questionable decisions. Quote Embers - A Bionicle Saga - Chapters/Review Class Is Out - A Farewell To Corpus Rahkshi - Chapters/Review BZPRPG Characters - Minnorak, Kain, T'harrak, Savis, Vazaria, Lash BZPRPG Mercenary Group - The Outsiders - Description - History - Base Ghosts Of Bara Magna - Ash Tribe - Precipere - Kehla, Somok, Skrall, Gayle, Avinus, Zha'ar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toru Nui Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 Long? That's not the word I would use. He was only around for four episodes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nato G Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 I think you're missing my point: you have no allies. The Jungle is abandoning you, Kamuk only cares about Kamuk, and Kulta is an eldritch demon that views you as cannon fodder. No matter how this ends, Toru, you are going to lose. If Kulta wins, she'll kill you. If Kulta loses, we'll kill you. The only way for you to survive is to either defect, or run very far away. So which is it going to be? Certain death, or slim survival? Quote Embers - A Bionicle Saga - Chapters/Review Class Is Out - A Farewell To Corpus Rahkshi - Chapters/Review BZPRPG Characters - Minnorak, Kain, T'harrak, Savis, Vazaria, Lash BZPRPG Mercenary Group - The Outsiders - Description - History - Base Ghosts Of Bara Magna - Ash Tribe - Precipere - Kehla, Somok, Skrall, Gayle, Avinus, Zha'ar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voxumo Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 You presume Kamuk only cares about Kamuk, but alas Kamuk would not be where it is now if it were not for the earth region, and the faith by extension. The two are ultimately linked together. Quote Banner made by Onaku BZPRPG CHARACTERS Syvra-Tivanu If you interact with one of my characters and I don't respond or acknowledge the interaction within a day, send me a PM. Odds are I missed or did not see the post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toru Nui Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 I think you're missing my point: you have no allies. The Jungle is abandoning you, Kamuk only cares about Kamuk, and Kulta is an eldritch demon that views you as cannon fodder. No matter how this ends, Toru, you are going to lose. If Kulta wins, she'll kill you. If Kulta loses, we'll kill you. The only way for you to survive is to either defect, or run very far away. So which is it going to be? Certain death, or slim survival? I'm not sure I have enough FOOL!s for that, so I'm going to respond with this: 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nato G Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 (edited) Kamuk would not be where it is now if it were not for the earth region, and the faith by extension. The two are ultimately linked together. And you're loyal to neither, Mr Neutrality. Edited April 7, 2017 by Nato The Traveler Quote Embers - A Bionicle Saga - Chapters/Review Class Is Out - A Farewell To Corpus Rahkshi - Chapters/Review BZPRPG Characters - Minnorak, Kain, T'harrak, Savis, Vazaria, Lash BZPRPG Mercenary Group - The Outsiders - Description - History - Base Ghosts Of Bara Magna - Ash Tribe - Precipere - Kehla, Somok, Skrall, Gayle, Avinus, Zha'ar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voxumo Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 Kamuk would not be where it is now if it were not for the earth region, and the faith by extension. The two are ultimately linked together. And you're loyal to neither, Mr Neutrality. If a bunch knights got off their moral high-ground and offered something substantial to house maran, they too could have superior weapons and tools... You can't claim I'm not neutral if you never tried to get me to your side. Right now the highest bidder is the faith. Quote Banner made by Onaku BZPRPG CHARACTERS Syvra-Tivanu If you interact with one of my characters and I don't respond or acknowledge the interaction within a day, send me a PM. Odds are I missed or did not see the post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nato G Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 How about not being murdered by eldritch skull demons and becoming a slave in their mindless zombie army? Being able to be alive isn't a good enough incentive for you? The Knights are literally presenting a better offer simply by existing. Quote Embers - A Bionicle Saga - Chapters/Review Class Is Out - A Farewell To Corpus Rahkshi - Chapters/Review BZPRPG Characters - Minnorak, Kain, T'harrak, Savis, Vazaria, Lash BZPRPG Mercenary Group - The Outsiders - Description - History - Base Ghosts Of Bara Magna - Ash Tribe - Precipere - Kehla, Somok, Skrall, Gayle, Avinus, Zha'ar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voxumo Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 How about not being murdered by eldritch skull demons and becoming a slave in their mindless zombie army? Being able to be alive isn't a good enough incentive for you? The Knights are literally presenting a better offer simply by existing. The knights have shown a lack of ability to deal with the skulls. I have no reason to trust in their ability to ensure my survival. On top of that, you've not approached me ICLY!!! Quote Banner made by Onaku BZPRPG CHARACTERS Syvra-Tivanu If you interact with one of my characters and I don't respond or acknowledge the interaction within a day, send me a PM. Odds are I missed or did not see the post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dane-gerous Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 I'm very much excited for my spinoff chapter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nato G Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 We shouldn't need to "approach" anyone. The only possible outcomes are "maybe live" or "definitely die", and the Knights are the ones offering the only desirable option. Quote Embers - A Bionicle Saga - Chapters/Review Class Is Out - A Farewell To Corpus Rahkshi - Chapters/Review BZPRPG Characters - Minnorak, Kain, T'harrak, Savis, Vazaria, Lash BZPRPG Mercenary Group - The Outsiders - Description - History - Base Ghosts Of Bara Magna - Ash Tribe - Precipere - Kehla, Somok, Skrall, Gayle, Avinus, Zha'ar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trijhak Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 What you're missing, Nato, is the evidence. You know that. Most other people, in character, don't. You need to find a way to prove to a large amount of people that Kulta actually is a genocidal skeleton monster, and not the harsh but powerful and wise ruler a lot of Okoto sees them as. You're alerting people to the fact they will die, and they feel threatened by that, and where do they turn then? To faith. Quote On Bota Magna, everything is about to fall apart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nato G Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 Dead people all over the island are getting to their feet and indiscriminately attacking everyone in sight. If that's not evidence, I dunno what is. 1 Quote Embers - A Bionicle Saga - Chapters/Review Class Is Out - A Farewell To Corpus Rahkshi - Chapters/Review BZPRPG Characters - Minnorak, Kain, T'harrak, Savis, Vazaria, Lash BZPRPG Mercenary Group - The Outsiders - Description - History - Base Ghosts Of Bara Magna - Ash Tribe - Precipere - Kehla, Somok, Skrall, Gayle, Avinus, Zha'ar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voxumo Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 (edited) Dead people all over the island are getting to their feet and indiscriminately attacking everyone in sight. If that's not evidence, I dunno what is. And what evidence is there that your little group of knights will be able to do anything, offer anykind of sanctuary? There is no evidence, as ya'll like to keep yourselves so in mystery that the common person doesn't even know you exist. The Knights are like the illuminati. They've tried to steer the world in their vision from the shadows, refusing to make their presence known, electing what leaders they want, Aka Voxumo, and trying and failing to prevent destruction. Not to mention they've refused to intervene in atrocities, aka the original decimation of the earth region. Had they gotten involved, it's possible none of this would be happening right now. The knights are their own worse enemy. Edited April 7, 2017 by Vox Quote Banner made by Onaku BZPRPG CHARACTERS Syvra-Tivanu If you interact with one of my characters and I don't respond or acknowledge the interaction within a day, send me a PM. Odds are I missed or did not see the post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nato G Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 The Knights are like the illuminati. They've tried to steer the world in their vision from the shadows, refusing to make their presence known, electing what leaders they want, Aka Voxumo, and trying and failing to prevent destruction. Yeah, and the Faith have done the exact same things. For someone who claims to be neutral, you seem to spend an awful lot of time defending the evil deity and her creepy cult, and bashing the group who are openly devoted to saving the island. 1 Quote Embers - A Bionicle Saga - Chapters/Review Class Is Out - A Farewell To Corpus Rahkshi - Chapters/Review BZPRPG Characters - Minnorak, Kain, T'harrak, Savis, Vazaria, Lash BZPRPG Mercenary Group - The Outsiders - Description - History - Base Ghosts Of Bara Magna - Ash Tribe - Precipere - Kehla, Somok, Skrall, Gayle, Avinus, Zha'ar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voxumo Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 (edited) I defend them because at least they're somewhat honest about their intentions, whereas your group is farthest from openly devoted, as again the knight haven't revealed themselves, so that can't be open anything. Maybe to their fellow members, but that doesn't really mean much. Though the real reason I tend to bash the knights, is because I'm sick and tired of the seemingly "We're good guys, so why aren't people naturally inclined to join us" mindset that you're showcasing. As if you don't have to work to gain the people's trust, as if it should be a given. Entitlement is not an attractive feature. I also prefer battle of politics over battles of straight up might. and the faith is really kicking your behind in the politics department. Edited April 7, 2017 by Vox 2 Quote Banner made by Onaku BZPRPG CHARACTERS Syvra-Tivanu If you interact with one of my characters and I don't respond or acknowledge the interaction within a day, send me a PM. Odds are I missed or did not see the post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nato G Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 ...the knight haven't revealed themselves, so that can't be open anything. Um... no? From the first post: As quickly as the Faithful appeared, so too did an opposing force – an extremely secretive group calling themselves the Knights of Ekimu, seemingly based within the Ice Region. They claim that the Skull Creatures are not to be trusted, that they seek the destruction of Okoto; the evidence seems to suggest otherwise, however, and as the Faith continues to grow, the more they outnumber the so-called Knights. So yes, the Knights may still be secretive, but both their existence and their beliefs are common knowledge. Quote Embers - A Bionicle Saga - Chapters/Review Class Is Out - A Farewell To Corpus Rahkshi - Chapters/Review BZPRPG Characters - Minnorak, Kain, T'harrak, Savis, Vazaria, Lash BZPRPG Mercenary Group - The Outsiders - Description - History - Base Ghosts Of Bara Magna - Ash Tribe - Precipere - Kehla, Somok, Skrall, Gayle, Avinus, Zha'ar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voxumo Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 Even so, the Faith is making more effort to sway the people than the knights are, who seemingly expect matters to be handed to them, for they represent the force of good. Quote Banner made by Onaku BZPRPG CHARACTERS Syvra-Tivanu If you interact with one of my characters and I don't respond or acknowledge the interaction within a day, send me a PM. Odds are I missed or did not see the post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nato G Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 You say "sway", but the word you're looking for is "intimidation". Quote Embers - A Bionicle Saga - Chapters/Review Class Is Out - A Farewell To Corpus Rahkshi - Chapters/Review BZPRPG Characters - Minnorak, Kain, T'harrak, Savis, Vazaria, Lash BZPRPG Mercenary Group - The Outsiders - Description - History - Base Ghosts Of Bara Magna - Ash Tribe - Precipere - Kehla, Somok, Skrall, Gayle, Avinus, Zha'ar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voxumo Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 You say "sway", but the word you're looking for is "intimidation". Intimidation has it's limits, and when presented with a better choice, often those who are intimidated will turn against their intimidators. The people were swayed, and the inner circle likely intimidated. Quote Banner made by Onaku BZPRPG CHARACTERS Syvra-Tivanu If you interact with one of my characters and I don't respond or acknowledge the interaction within a day, send me a PM. Odds are I missed or did not see the post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nato G Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 So, to put things plainly, you're saying that the inner circle were intimidated, and the common folk were deceived. Quote Embers - A Bionicle Saga - Chapters/Review Class Is Out - A Farewell To Corpus Rahkshi - Chapters/Review BZPRPG Characters - Minnorak, Kain, T'harrak, Savis, Vazaria, Lash BZPRPG Mercenary Group - The Outsiders - Description - History - Base Ghosts Of Bara Magna - Ash Tribe - Precipere - Kehla, Somok, Skrall, Gayle, Avinus, Zha'ar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToaTImeLord Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 It be a shame if ancient jungle region documents describing the horrors of the first long night got mass produced and spread across Okoto. But doing that would make me a traitor. Quote Hey I got a Flickr because I like making LEGO stuff. https://www.flickr.com/people/toatimelord/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nato G Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 Well, no one believed me when I told everyone about the horrors of the Long Night. If people are going to disregard a first-hand account, I doubt they're going to accept a few bits of paper. Quote Embers - A Bionicle Saga - Chapters/Review Class Is Out - A Farewell To Corpus Rahkshi - Chapters/Review BZPRPG Characters - Minnorak, Kain, T'harrak, Savis, Vazaria, Lash BZPRPG Mercenary Group - The Outsiders - Description - History - Base Ghosts Of Bara Magna - Ash Tribe - Precipere - Kehla, Somok, Skrall, Gayle, Avinus, Zha'ar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toru Nui Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 You know, the difference between zombie army and immortal hive mind is simply a matter of perspective. And your perspective is WRONG. In other words... GREAVESY! You are going to take your immortality, AND YOU ARE GOING TO LIKE IT!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nato G Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 Undeath =/= immortality. I'd prefer to die young with my free will intact than become a zombie slave. Quote Embers - A Bionicle Saga - Chapters/Review Class Is Out - A Farewell To Corpus Rahkshi - Chapters/Review BZPRPG Characters - Minnorak, Kain, T'harrak, Savis, Vazaria, Lash BZPRPG Mercenary Group - The Outsiders - Description - History - Base Ghosts Of Bara Magna - Ash Tribe - Precipere - Kehla, Somok, Skrall, Gayle, Avinus, Zha'ar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toru Nui Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 First of all, your math is wrong. Second of all, you don't really have much of a choice. Unless Kulta decides to bestow upon you a fate worse than death... ...Like being forced to watch romantic comedies starring Kelotu and Purple!!! THE HORROR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonkle Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 First of all, your math is wrong. Second of all, you don't really have much of a choice. Unless Kulta decides to bestow upon you a fate worse than death... ...Like being forced to watch romantic comedies starring Kelotu and Purple!!! THE HORRORSo you admit death is a bad fate. Quote I been away a long time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toru Nui Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 Yes it is. But this isn't death, it's UNdeath. Sizable difference. And if you were REALLY Kulta, you would know that. Ya filthy impostor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonkle Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 Yes it is. But this isn't death, it's UNdeath. Sizable difference. And if you were REALLY Kulta, you would know that. Ya filthy impostor. No no no, I'm not actually Kulta. My name is just Actually Kulta. There's a difference. Quote I been away a long time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toru Nui Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 SHUN THE FALSE GOD!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonkle Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 SHUN THE FALSE GOD!!!The actual Kulta ain't exactly a god either. 1 Quote I been away a long time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toru Nui Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 BLASHEPHEM... blasfem... blazz... bla... HERESY! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonkle Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 BLASHEPHEM... blasfem... blazz... bla... HERESY! By any chance are you related to Imrukii? Cause you're doing an awful lot of mouth-foaming. Quote I been away a long time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toru Nui Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 YOW! MY ENTIRELY JUSTIFIED PRIDE! *groan* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burnmad Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 That can be verified without even having to check his genealogy, I think. 1. Does he make sense? Nope2. Does he froth and foam at the mouth? Yup3. Is he on the side with the best chances of realistically winning? Nope4. Does he have a conveniently long neck? I dunno. We have 3 out of 4 factors. Maybe you can shed some light on the last one, Toru? - 4 Quote Avatar by Brickeens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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