Baron Von Nebula Posted October 16, 2011 Share Posted October 16, 2011 I always wondered to some extent how/why Makuta and Rahkshi use Laser Vision, when lasers are light. The best idea I have is that they take light from the surroundings and focus it into a laser. This way they would not have to have light in them. Anyone have a better explanation? Quote Read my comedy, about the Hero Factory villains watching a television channel produced by our Spherus Magnan friends!The Bionicle Channel "I expect that when I write my next entry in this chronicle, I will be writing as uncontested ruler of the Brotherhood."-Certainty, my Memoirs of the Dead entry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harvali Posted October 16, 2011 Share Posted October 16, 2011 The only Rahkshi I know to use eye beams, the 2010 set, uses heat vision; not laser vision. So it is just a heat ray, not a blast of light. Quote "Danger is the anvil on which trust is forged"-Jaller(Jala) "We're on our own here-like we've always been-and we'll stand or fall on our own"-Tanma "He may seem slow and strange to you, but his simple words often carry a hidden wisdom"-Turaga Vakama on Kapura Kanohi: Stories of a Matoran Vigilante The Impact of a Rebirth: a Kanohi Fanfic The Willing Exiles: a Kanohi Fanfic SKA PC Profiles: Kanohi, Collector, Mahrika Kardaka BZPRPG Profiles Avatar by @Harvali Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron Von Nebula Posted October 16, 2011 Author Share Posted October 16, 2011 Lemon metallic/Dark green Kraata have laser vision according to the "wild Kraata colors" chart. As Rahkshi they are red-orange. Laser vision is one of the many Rahkshi that were not sets. Quote Read my comedy, about the Hero Factory villains watching a television channel produced by our Spherus Magnan friends!The Bionicle Channel "I expect that when I write my next entry in this chronicle, I will be writing as uncontested ruler of the Brotherhood."-Certainty, my Memoirs of the Dead entry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katuko Posted October 16, 2011 Share Posted October 16, 2011 In the BIONICLE universe, regular shadows, moral "shadow" and elemental shadow are basically separate things. It stands to reason that regular light, elemental light and moral "light" would be as well. Makuta are not hurt by standing in the sun. Elemental light is a different story, but "just" a laser doesn't seem to be the same thing. In any case, elemental powers flow through the user. "Standard" powers like laser vision apparently doesn't, because I have a hard time seeing "laser power" float around inside a Makuta. The lasers are shot from the eyes, but that doesn't necessarily mean harmful light has to be condensed within them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toa Lhikan Hordika Posted October 16, 2011 Share Posted October 16, 2011 One thing to keep in mind, is that Greg has stated several times that physics in the Bionicle universe do not necessarily agree with the physics of ours. A laser in the Bionicle universe may not equal elemental light. A laser may be in its own, entirely separate category from light there. - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harvali Posted October 16, 2011 Share Posted October 16, 2011 Lemon metallic/Dark green Kraata have laser vision according to the "wild Kraata colors" chart. As Rahkshi they are red-orange. Laser vision is one of the many Rahkshi that were not sets.Ah, well then I have to concur with the others here that there is no connection. Shadow wasn't considered evil until the Makuta showed their true colors, and Gavla is not very...nice...for a Matoran of Light. So there might be no direct link between light, lasers, and morality. Quote "Danger is the anvil on which trust is forged"-Jaller(Jala) "We're on our own here-like we've always been-and we'll stand or fall on our own"-Tanma "He may seem slow and strange to you, but his simple words often carry a hidden wisdom"-Turaga Vakama on Kapura Kanohi: Stories of a Matoran Vigilante The Impact of a Rebirth: a Kanohi Fanfic The Willing Exiles: a Kanohi Fanfic SKA PC Profiles: Kanohi, Collector, Mahrika Kardaka BZPRPG Profiles Avatar by @Harvali Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dralcax Posted October 16, 2011 Share Posted October 16, 2011 One thing to keep in mind, is that Greg has stated several times that physics in the Bionicle universe do not necessarily agree with the physics of ours. A laser in the Bionicle universe may not equal elemental light. A laser may be in its own, entirely separate category from light there. - Then how did Takanuva create a laser? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katuko Posted October 16, 2011 Share Posted October 16, 2011 (edited) Super-focused elemental light equals a laser made of elemental light.Laser Vision equals a laser made of non-elemental light. Makuta get hurt by the former, but not the latter. Edited October 16, 2011 by Katuko Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erebus Posted October 16, 2011 Share Posted October 16, 2011 One thing to keep in mind, is that Greg has stated several times that physics in the Bionicle universe do not necessarily agree with the physics of ours. A laser in the Bionicle universe may not equal elemental light. A laser may be in its own, entirely separate category from light there. - Then how did Takanuva create a laser?He creates one using his elemental Light powers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
You just lost the game Posted October 17, 2011 Share Posted October 17, 2011 Laser vision is not light, lasers are heat, and heat is energy. Nothing that references to light. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katuko Posted October 17, 2011 Share Posted October 17, 2011 In our world, lasers are the same as light. Since BIONICLE physics usually follows our physics, it stands to reason that lasers would be the same. But still: Elemental Light seems different.Heat vision and laser vision are two different powers, by the way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
that guy Posted October 18, 2011 Share Posted October 18, 2011 I see it as elemental light can be a laser, but a laser does not have to be from elemental powers. Kind of like how a square is a rectangle but a rectangle isn't a square. Elemental light fits under the requirement for a laser, but lasers can be more general than that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HalfWolf Posted October 19, 2011 Share Posted October 19, 2011 In my opinion, I think it's sorta like how water and ice are two separate powers. In the same way, lasers are different from elemental light. In Bionicle, just because someone has ice powers doesn't mean they have water powers and vice versa. And how that guy (that's his username) said above with the example that a square is a rectangle, but a rectangle isn't a square. Quote It was all a lie. There's nothing wrong with you.Nice of you to say. But you of all people should know: there's plenty wrong with me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zarohum Posted October 19, 2011 Share Posted October 19, 2011 Lemon metallic/Dark green Kraata have laser vision according to the "wild Kraata colors" chart. As Rahkshi they are red-orange. Laser vision is one of the many Rahkshi that were not sets.So there's laser vision AND heat vision? That's like having a Toa of Lightning and Electricity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Anon1 Posted October 19, 2011 Share Posted October 19, 2011 Heat vision is more susceptable to catching things on fire, but laser vision is easier to focus. Also, laser vision can be reflected using a mirror. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunflower Posted October 19, 2011 Share Posted October 19, 2011 Lemon metallic/Dark green Kraata have laser vision according to the "wild Kraata colors" chart. As Rahkshi they are red-orange. Laser vision is one of the many Rahkshi that were not sets.So there's laser vision AND heat vision? That's like having a Toa of Lightning and Electricity. Well Toa of lightning could control the plasma created by the static electriciy, and Toa of electricity could control, well, electricity; but that creates a whole new set of problems... Quote - BZPRPG - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katuko Posted October 20, 2011 Share Posted October 20, 2011 In this case, "lightning" is just another name for "electricity", just like "the green" is another name for "plant life". Laser- and heat vision are different, though, in the sense that the former is based on focused rays of light/photons/equivalent while the latter is based on heat/fire/combustion.But as said: In BIONICLE, there is a distinction between Elemental Light and natural Light; at least the "laser" kind of light. For all we know what they call "lasers" are just very thin streams of plasma or the generic "energy" category. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BULiK Posted October 20, 2011 Share Posted October 20, 2011 lasers are "light amplification by stimulated emission of radiation" or, atleast that is the acronym for laser.but, a non-elemental laser could hurt a makuta, by piercing the armor,duh. i can still hurt them, just not as much as elemental lasers Quote Visit www.BZPRPG.com to view my project of archiving BZPower's RPGs, and also access the BZPower Roleplaying Wiki BZPRPG Profiles - Ghosts Of Bara Magna Profiles Exo-Force RPG Profiles - Six Kingdoms: Apocalypse (Knichou, Berys, Arnex, The Taku, Exuze) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chibinuva Posted October 20, 2011 Share Posted October 20, 2011 Lemon metallic/Dark green Kraata have laser vision according to the "wild Kraata colors" chart. As Rahkshi they are red-orange. Laser vision is one of the many Rahkshi that were not sets.So there's laser vision AND heat vision? That's like having a Toa of Lightning and Electricity. Well for the record, there are rahkshi of both chain lightning and electricity. Also, there are some differences to them in order for them to be feasible, but with 42 different powers some rahkshi/kraata are very similar to each other. Quote <<Newest Chibi: Nuparu Inika Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erebus Posted October 20, 2011 Share Posted October 20, 2011 There's also similarities in Rahi Control and Insect Control, as well as Darkness and Shadow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zarohum Posted October 20, 2011 Share Posted October 20, 2011 yeah. Makes me think the Kraata were only a way to get money. Oh wait.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALVIS Posted October 20, 2011 Share Posted October 20, 2011 Well, somebody somewhere along the line had obviously read the Hitchhiker's Guide and decided 42 would be a good number of Kraata breeds. And the story team had to come up with 42 powers. Some of them were unfortunately a little redundant. :/ Quote "You are not entitled to your opinion. You are entitled to your informed opinion. No one is entitled to be ignorant." -- Harlan Ellison Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artorias Posted October 21, 2011 Share Posted October 21, 2011 When I saw this, I immediately thought someone had looked at my sig and taken that into consideration. Quote "The sun is a wondrous body, like a magnificent father! If only I could be so grossly incandescent!" My PBZP: http://www.bzpower.com/board/index.php?showtopic=4267I hadn't even known it was posted until much later... Oops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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