Memes Take Over

[UltraHau]

OK... Ponies aren't manly, and neither is pink. If man watches show with pink ponies and then shoves it in the faces of people who don't care about said show, man will get laughed off the face of the earth. Man will lose his man-card, and the respect of his peers, in all likelihood. Also, I have a rocket launcher, so any counter arguments are invalid.

[Icicle]

Why are you guys defending the MLP fad? It's like JB fans talking to haters. I don't really think there'll be an agreement in the end..I just wanted to say that.

[Angel Beat]

Maybe because it's not a fad? Maybe because we're actual fans of the show? :shrug:

OK... Ponies aren't manly, and neither is pink. If man watches show with pink ponies and then shoves it in the faces of people who don't care about said show, man will get laughed off the face of the earth. Man will lose his man-card, and the respect of his peers, in all likelihood.

The "being manly" stereotype is way overrated. I wonder when we'll have another staff fad/meme...

[UltraHau]

Why are you guys defending the MLP fad? It's like JB fans talking to haters. I don't really think there'll be an agreement in the end..I just wanted to say that.

I personally don't see why they have to talk about it here. It's one thing to watch the show - I couldn't care less if they did - but then they have to go here and talk about it (which is my only problem with these MLP fanboys), and whenever someone says something along the lines of "Ponies are for girls/There are better cartoons", they absolutely blow up. They need a thicker skin; people can feel strongly about different topics, and some people aren't afraid to speak their mind, bluntly. If you encounter one such person, and he/she has opinions that are different than yours (which is almost a certainty), you need to understand that it's just an opinion. Let it roll off your back, and keep going. Now if they actually have a solid argument that makes your opinion look like Swiss cheese, that's a different story, obviously. P.S: Don't get me started on JB.

[~Allegretto~]

OK... Ponies aren't manly, and neither is pink. If man watches show with pink ponies and then shoves it in the faces of people who don't care about said show, man will get laughed off the face of the earth. Man will lose his man-card, and the respect of his peers, in all likelihood.

1. One pink pony, and 2. Why should a guy get "laughed off the face of the earth" for watching a show for girls? There are girls here, on a site devoted to a "boy's" toy line; why can't the same hold true for guys? Have you seen an episode? It might help you form a more well-informed opinion about why you don't like the show, at least.

Also, I have a rocket launcher, so any counter arguments are invalid.

You can't fire a rocket launcher through the internet.

I personally don't see why they have to talk about it here.

There's a Doctor Who topic here, but I don't see anyone saying they shouldn't have Doctor Who banners, or avs, or a COT topic.

It's one thing to watch the show - I couldn't care less if they did - but then they have to go here and talk about it (which is my only problem with these MLP fanboys), and whenever someone says something along the lines of "Ponies are for girls/There are better cartoons", they absolutely blow up. They need a thicker skin; people can feel strongly about different topics, and some people aren't afraid to speak their mind, bluntly. If you encounter one such person, and he/she has opinions that are different than yours (which is almost a certainty), you need to understand that it's just an opinion. Let it roll off your back, and keep going. Now if they actually have a solid argument that makes your opinion look like Swiss cheese, that's a different story, obviously. P.S: Don't get me started on JB. <_<

I'm not blowing up; I'm trying to have a reasonable discussion about why people disapprove so strongly of our interests. Thing is, a lot of the people who say they don't like MLP only have "it's a girl's show" as a reason. Edited October 20, 2011 by --Calamity--

[Angel Beat]

Why are you guys defending the MLP fad? It's like JB fans talking to haters. I don't really think there'll be an agreement in the end..I just wanted to say that.

I personally don't see why they have to talk about it here. It's one thing to watch the show - I couldn't care less if they did - but then they have to go here and talk about it (which is my only problem with these MLP fanboys), and whenever someone says something along the lines of "Ponies are for girls/There are better cartoons", they absolutely blow up. They need a thicker skin; people can feel strongly about different topics, and some people aren't afraid to speak their mind, bluntly. If you encounter one such person, and he/she has opinions that are different than yours (which is almost a certainty), you need to understand that it's just an opinion. Let it roll off your back, and keep going. Now if they actually have a solid argument that makes your opinion look like Swiss cheese, that's a different story, obviously.

Oh, I appreciate differing opinions, I just loathe it when people are blunt about it.Same goes for fans, btw.

[UltraHau]

OK... Ponies aren't manly, and neither is pink. If man watches show with pink ponies and then shoves it in the faces of people who don't care about said show, man will get laughed off the face of the earth. Man will lose his man-card, and the respect of his peers, in all likelihood.

1. One pink pony, and 2. Why should a guy get "laughed off the face of the earth" for watching a show for girls? There are girls here, on a site devoted to a "boy's" toy line; why can't the same hold true for guys? Have you seen an episode? It might help you form a more well-informed opinion about why you don't like the show, at least.

Also, I have a rocket launcher, so any counter arguments are invalid.

You can't fire a rocket launcher through the internet.

I personally don't see why they have to talk about it here.

There's a Doctor Who topic here, but I don't see anyone saying they shouldn't have Doctor Who banners, or avs, or a COT topic.

It's one thing to watch the show - I couldn't care less if they did - but then they have to go here and talk about it (which is my only problem with these MLP fanboys), and whenever someone says something along the lines of "Ponies are for girls/There are better cartoons", they absolutely blow up. They need a thicker skin; people can feel strongly about different topics, and some people aren't afraid to speak their mind, bluntly. If you encounter one such person, and he/she has opinions that are different than yours (which is almost a certainty), you need to understand that it's just an opinion. Let it roll off your back, and keep going. Now if they actually have a solid argument that makes your opinion look like Swiss cheese, that's a different story, obviously. P.S: Don't get me started on JB. <_<

I'm not blowing up; I'm trying to have a reasonable discussion about why people disapprove so strongly of our interests. Thing is, a lot of the people who say they don't like MLP only have "it's a girl's show" as a reason.

Simple experiment: Try telling 10 people in real life you watch MLP (especially siblings, if you have any). What's their average response? And yes, I have seen a few episodes - I personally find other cartoons much better. Also, the reason most people don't care about DW topics and sigs is that DW != MLP - DW is not a girly show (last I checked). If guys want to watch MLP, I have no problem with that, although I don't exactly like seeing ponies once every other sig. It's your reaction to criticism that bugs me.

[Angel Beat]

Simple experiment: Try telling 10 people in real life you watch MLP (especially siblings, if you have any). What's their average response?

Told 5 so far, even a couple of die hard metal fans and opposed to most things "girly". Every single one had a positive response.

[UltraHau]

Simple experiment: Try telling 10 people in real life you watch MLP (especially siblings, if you have any). What's their average response?

Told 5 so far, even a couple of die hard metal fans and opposed to most things "girly". Every single one had a positive response.

Either 1) They haven't seen the show, and/or 2) you haven't shown them how obsessed you are with it

[~Allegretto~]

Simple experiment: Try telling 10 people in real life you watch MLP (especially siblings, if you have any).

My brother is a brony, and most of the people I know are either bronies/pegasisters or don't really care.

If guys want to watch MLP, I have no problem with that, although I don't exactly like seeing ponies once every other sig.

People put pictures of things they like in their sig. You can't really change that.

It's your reaction to criticism that bugs me.

I'm here having a civil discussion with you, aren't I?

[Skarloth]

Simple experiment: Try telling 10 people in real life you watch MLP (especially siblings, if you have any). What's their average response?

Told 5 so far, even a couple of die hard metal fans and opposed to most things "girly". Every single one had a positive response.

I've told two family members (siblings) and they don't have any problems with it. Now that isn't exactly enough to have an 'average' response, but I know both of them oppose 'girly' things.

If guys want to watch MLP, I have no problem with that, although I don't exactly like seeing ponies once every other sig. It's your reaction to criticism that bugs me.

I haven't blown up or otherwise lost my temper because someone criticized me for watching it, I tolerate opinions and criticism. -Skar

[GSR]

Holy cats, is there anywhere on the internet where saying the word "ponies" isn't like throwing a match into gasoline? Personally, I can't say I'm a fan of MLP, and I am getting a little sick of seeing it absolutely everywhere. But I got no reason to argue with fans; usually they keep it to a single topic and their sigs/avatars. As long as they don't start dragging it into topics discussing something completely different, I can (as the meme would have it) "deal with it". So yes, MLP has become very commonplace, and no, it's not going to do any good to argue back and forth about it. On the internet, everyone is wrong.

Edited October 20, 2011 by GSR

[Rarity]

The only ones who are blowing up about this, are the haters.

[Angel Beat]

Simple experiment: Try telling 10 people in real life you watch MLP (especially siblings, if you have any). What's their average response?

Told 5 so far, even a couple of die hard metal fans and opposed to most things "girly". Every single one had a positive response.

Either 1) They haven't seen the show, and/or 2) you haven't shown them how obsessed you are with it

1) They're starting to watch.2) I'm not obsessed, I probably like MLP as much as I do Bionicle, Star Trek, Star Wars, Mass Effect and Transformers etc. Alas, there's only as much allowed sig space (by my choice) as I'm having right now. xD

[UltraHau]

Holy cats, is there anywhere on the internet where saying the word "ponies" isn't like throwing a match into gasoline? Personally, I can't say I'm a fan of MLP, and I am getting a little sick of seeing it absolutely everywhere. But I got no reason to argue with fans; usually they keep it to a single topic and their sigs/avatars. As long as they don't start dragging it into topics discussing something completely different, I can (as the meme would have it) "deal with it". So yes, MLP has become very commonplace, and no, it's not going to do any good to argue back and forth about it. On the internet, everyone is wrong.

Agreed. Back and forth arguing isn't going to get us anywhere, and I just discovered the "ignore signature" feature .

Simple experiment: Try telling 10 people in real life you watch MLP (especially siblings, if you have any). What's their average response?

Told 5 so far, even a couple of die hard metal fans and opposed to most things "girly". Every single one had a positive response.

I've told two family members (siblings) and they don't have any problems with it. Now that isn't exactly enough to have an 'average' response, but I know both of them oppose 'girly' things.

If guys want to watch MLP, I have no problem with that, although I don't exactly like seeing ponies once every other sig. It's your reaction to criticism that bugs me.

I haven't blown up or otherwise lost my temper because someone criticized me for watching it, I tolerate opinions and criticism. -Skar

I never said you did, but MLP fans do that, as a rule (at least the majority of the 50-odd ones I've seen).

[Skarloth]

Holy cats, is there anywhere on the internet where saying the word "ponies" isn't like throwing a match into gasoline? Personally, I can't say I'm a fan of MLP, and I am getting a little sick of seeing it absolutely everywhere. But I got no reason to argue with fans; usually they keep it to a single topic and their sigs/avatars. As long as they don't start dragging it into topics discussing something completely different, I can (as the meme would have it) "deal with it". So yes, MLP has become very commonplace, and no, it's not going to do any good to argue back and forth about it. On the internet, everyone is wrong.

Agreed. Back and forth arguing isn't going to get us anywhere, and I just discovered the "ignore signature" feature .

Simple experiment: Try telling 10 people in real life you watch MLP (especially siblings, if you have any). What's their average response?

Told 5 so far, even a couple of die hard metal fans and opposed to most things "girly". Every single one had a positive response.

I've told two family members (siblings) and they don't have any problems with it. Now that isn't exactly enough to have an 'average' response, but I know both of them oppose 'girly' things.

If guys want to watch MLP, I have no problem with that, although I don't exactly like seeing ponies once every other sig. It's your reaction to criticism that bugs me.

I haven't blown up or otherwise lost my temper because someone criticized me for watching it, I tolerate opinions and criticism. -Skar

I never said you did, but MLP fans do that, as a rule (at least the majority of the 50-odd ones I've seen).

I kinda am one, and I didn't lose my temper. Maybe they blow up about it because it's received so much hate, and they've been hated on as well. I'm not accusing you of hating anything, but I'd get sick of constant bashing and hating after a while too. -Skar Edited October 20, 2011 by Skarloth

[Rarity]

What brony blew up?I keep seeing people say that, but no names.

[Skarloth]

I don't know, but he's implying that we're reacting badly to criticism. I have yet to see any Bronies get enraged or otherwise angered about all of this. -Skar

[~Allegretto~]

As far as BZP, I'd say we've been responding pretty calmly to all of this, but that's just me.

[Toa Novu]

Funny how a topic that was started on memes has quickly developed into a discussion on ponies. I don't mind too much though. I'm a brony (or a pegasister, if you want to be more specific). I love all the brony stuff I've seen floating around. They're not hurting anyone. Actually, bronies are being quite civil about everything, as demonstrated by the majority of bronies who have posted in this topic. They're just like any other large group of fans. Let them have their fun, things'll move on eventually.

Edited October 20, 2011 by Toa Novu

[Angel Beat]

Thing is, this topic should've been moving away from pony/pegasister/brony talk for a while now, but it keeps being brought up.

Edited October 20, 2011 by Valenti

[~Allegretto~]

I think that's what this topic has been about in the first place. OP specifically said he was seeing more ponies.

[Toa Novu]

Thing is, this topic should've been moving away from pony/pegasister/brony talk for a while now, but it keeps being brought up.

It makes sense, seeing as it appears to be the biggest meme going on right now. It's the same as when any other meme is going really strong. Edited October 20, 2011 by Toa Novu

[GAY AS HECK]

And I'm going to go off and sulk now. Anyway, we do need our internal memes back. BZP is a colder place without them.

I sense a "Hamlet" reference with this picture... Lewa0111 Nuva

Alas, poor Takanuva! I knew him, Lewa, a fellow of infinite light, of most excellent courage.

[Skarloth]

But this isn't exactly a Meme, people aren't randomly copying pony avatars and banners just for the heck of it, they're actual fans. This is more like a fandom attack than a fad or meme. -Skar

[BioGio]

But this isn't exactly a Meme, people aren't randomly copying pony avatars and banners just for the heck of it, they're actual fans. This is more like a fandom attack than a fad or meme. -Skar

Well, it's obvious that some people at the very least started watching it originally as a result of the meme/fad/whatever-it's-called, which is enough to qualify the show and fandom as a part of a meme. Anyway, I'm not really seeing a particularly greater amount of people referring to memes. Most likely, the original poster saw that the pool of memes is more restricted (those partaking in memes turn to ponies, not 92-8 or "BURN STUFF"), giving the impression that there is more participation in memes. Ponies are currently biggest, strongest, and have relatively little competition. ~ BioGio

[Master Inika]

I have seen some harsh criticism from both bronies and non-bronies, but more from anti-bronies. Really, I'm okay with criticism as long as: a. They have at least tried to watch an episode.b. When they have watched the episode, they have criticism beyond "it's girly."c. They respect that bronies will use brony avvies and banners. I'm more of a brony online because there's not a lot of people in real life I know enough to talk about it with.

[Skarloth]

I have seen some harsh criticism from both bronies and non-bronies, but more from anti-bronies. Really, I'm okay with criticism as long as: a. They have at least tried to watch an episode.b. When they have watched the episode, they have criticism beyond "it's girly."c. They respect that bronies will use brony avvies and banners. I'm more of a brony online because there's not a lot of people in real life I know enough to talk about it with.

Agreed. And I'm a Brony online only, since there is literally no one I know in real life that is a fan of the show. -Skar

[Toa Novu]

But this isn't exactly a Meme, people aren't randomly copying pony avatars and banners just for the heck of it, they're actual fans. This is more like a fandom attack than a fad or meme. -Skar

Well, it's obvious that some people at the very least started watching it originally as a result of the meme/fad/whatever-it's-called, which is enough to qualify the show and fandom as a part of a meme. Anyway, I'm not really seeing a particularly greater amount of people referring to memes. Most likely, the original poster saw that the pool of memes is more restricted (those partaking in memes turn to ponies, not 92-8 or "BURN STUFF"), giving the impression that there is more participation in memes. Ponies are currently biggest, strongest, and have relatively little competition. ~ BioGio

Going off of that, I think another reason ponies have become so popular on this site is the fact that it fits the family friendly atmosphere of BZP (for the most part, anyway). While there are plenty of other memes that are family friendly, they currently aren't as popular as ponies.

[-Dark Templar-]

I've seen a few more memes as well, like the cereal guy and the "me gusta" face, though maybe I just didn't notice them before...

[Master Inika]

I have seen some harsh criticism from both bronies and non-bronies, but more from anti-bronies. Really, I'm okay with criticism as long as: a. They have at least tried to watch an episode.b. When they have watched the episode, they have criticism beyond "it's girly."c. They respect that bronies will use brony avvies and banners. I'm more of a brony online because there's not a lot of people in real life I know enough to talk about it with.

Agreed. And I'm a Brony online only, since there is literally no one I know in real life that is a fan of the show. -Skar

Yes, BZP is a pony outlet for most bronies. From what I see, most bronies are tolerant to (reasoned) ideas of others. If someone says, "Oh, that's girly, it's stupid you watch a girls' show," of course we'll be bit mad.

[Alyska]

OK... Ponies aren't manly, and neither is pink. If man watches show with pink ponies and then shoves it in the faces of people who don't care about said show, man will get laughed off the face of the earth. Man will lose his man-card, and the respect of his peers, in all likelihood. Also, I have a rocket launcher, so any counter arguments are invalid.

Oooohh... outdated gender stereotypes! Retro! Wait... A-are you going to try to take away my woman-card because I like Bionicle, too?

[Toa Novu]

OK... Ponies aren't manly, and neither is pink. If man watches show with pink ponies and then shoves it in the faces of people who don't care about said show, man will get laughed off the face of the earth. Man will lose his man-card, and the respect of his peers, in all likelihood. Also, I have a rocket launcher, so any counter arguments are invalid.

Oooohh... outdated gender stereotypes! Retro! Wait... A-are you going to try to take away my woman-card because I like Bionicle, too?

I didn't know woman cards existed. Did they just not bother giving me one since I've been a tomboy for as long as I can remember? Anyway, yeah, gender stereotypes will probably stick around forever. The question is will they stay the same stereotypes? Even so recently as the mid 1900s, pink was seen as a boys color, and blue a girls. Things like that tend to shift with public opinion.

[Master Inika]

OK... Ponies aren't manly, and neither is pink. If man watches show with pink ponies and then shoves it in the faces of people who don't care about said show, man will get laughed off the face of the earth. Man will lose his man-card, and the respect of his peers, in all likelihood. Also, I have a rocket launcher, so any counter arguments are invalid.

Oooohh... outdated gender stereotypes! Retro! Wait... A-are you going to try to take away my woman-card because I like Bionicle, too?

Another thing, bronies don't "shove it in the faces of people who don't care." We try to encourage people to be open to it. If you (after actually watching an episode) decide you don't like it, I'm okay with that. Just saying "I don't like it because it's a girls' show" is ignorant, outdated sexism.

[dotcom]

Regarding the whole 'shoving things on your face' thing, all I have to say is that if you're going to allow yourself to be bothered by something as minor as people's sigs you really should not be using the internet.

[Rarity]

OK... Ponies aren't manly, and neither is pink. If man watches show with pink ponies and then shoves it in the faces of people who don't care about said show, man will get laughed off the face of the earth. Man will lose his man-card, and the respect of his peers, in all likelihood. Also, I have a rocket launcher, so any counter arguments are invalid.

Oooohh... outdated gender stereotypes! Retro! Wait... A-are you going to try to take away my woman-card because I likeBionicle, too?

Women don't get card[/sexist] jkGuys it isn't really THAT girly. It's unisex.

[dotcom]

OK... Ponies aren't manly, and neither is pink. If man watches show with pink ponies and then shoves it in the faces of people who don't care about said show, man will get laughed off the face of the earth. Man will lose his man-card, and the respect of his peers, in all likelihood. Also, I have a rocket launcher, so any counter arguments are invalid.

Oooohh... outdated gender stereotypes! Retro! Wait... A-are you going to try to take away  my woman-card because I likeBionicle, too?

Women don't get card[/sexist] jkGuys it isn't really THAT girly. It's unisex.

It is pretty girly.There's nothing wrong with that.

[Rarity]

There is stuff wrong with it. And no it isn't.

[~Allegretto~]

OK... Ponies aren't manly, and neither is pink. If man watches show with pink ponies and then shoves it in the faces of people who don't care about said show, man will get laughed off the face of the earth. Man will lose his man-card, and the respect of his peers, in all likelihood. Also, I have a rocket launcher, so any counter arguments are invalid.

Oooohh... outdated gender stereotypes! Retro! Wait... A-are you going to try to take away my woman-card because I likeBionicle, too?

Women don't get card[/sexist] jk Guys it isn't really THAT girly. It's unisex.

It's targeted towards girls, so I'd say it's girly. Although the fandom has made some stuff that would definitely not be considered girly by any means. *looks at banner* Edited October 20, 2011 by --Calamity--

[dotcom]

There is stuff wrong with it. And no it isn't.

No there isn't and yes it is.The show is a girl's show no matter how you look at it. It is also a good show with many great qualities. That's all.