Constructelf Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 But where's the point of "should be able to"? In Marvel, there was a classification of super strength for the number of tons they could lift (ie Class 20, Class 50, Class 100, etc). Shouldn't telepathy have a similar scale, if not in sheer force, then in range of abilities (ie surface scanning, deep scanning, subtle telepathic influence, overt mind control, mnemonic data hacking, nervous system attacks, etc.). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krayzikk Posted March 12, 2013 Author Share Posted March 12, 2013 (edited) The fact is, CM, there isn't a definitive point. In fact, there probably never will be, because that means having to come up with rules based on so many situations. It's easier to judge on a case by case business. The point where things become excessive varies, but it remains largely consistent. A super strength mutation can flip a car, but there's no way in heck they'd lift a destroyer. It's less a point, and more a range.Telepathy is literally impossible to give a range to, because it almost literally has limitless applications. There are common ones, yes, but the ways it can be used are so many and vast that they can't fully be accounted for. Thus, much the same as the above, we must operate on the principle of the case by case basis. Can they read minds? Sure. Can they mind-control an entire mob by themselves? No. EDIT: Forgot to include this. And if you start putting scales on one power, or two, where does it stop? Should we start trying to put exact numbers on flight? Time amounts on healing factors? Calculating the number of hits adapters need to adapt to a new attack? What about when we end up with variation in these ranges, do we need to adjust the scale every time someone doesn't fall onto one of our carefully considered points?It's just impractical. Edited March 12, 2013 by The Snark Knight Quote On this eve, the thirtieth anniversary of that first colony, many are left to wonder; is the world fast approaching a breaking point? Breaking Point: An OTC Mecha RPG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Light Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 Gotta agree with Tyler on this. THE NUMBERS ARE EVERYWHERE. Quote No such thing as destiny. BZPRPG Profiles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AuRon the champion Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 Especially in the Matrix. Although, if there were power levels in this game, I'm sure there would be a hash of scouter-related jokes... Quote BZPRPG Characters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madara: Mangekyou Master Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 Numbers are really impractical for the reasons stated above. Another potential problem is that they will inevitably be overemphasised."No way your Class 70 could beat my Class 100! My profile clearly says that he's stronger than your guy."Flexibility gives room for discretion to be used appropriately. Quote STAR WARS GALAXY AT WAR ... we have cookies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Havelock Vetinari Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 Indeed. Though if anyone dodges a full volley from say, a power armored platoon, I'm calling them out. If they don't have super speed or something. Bullets exist for a reason people-they generally hit what they are pointed at! Quote I believe you find life such a problem because you think there are the good people and the bad people. You are wrong, of course. There are, always and only, the bad people, but some of them are on opposite sides. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krayzikk Posted March 12, 2013 Author Share Posted March 12, 2013 Numbers are really impractical for the reasons stated above. Another potential problem is that they will inevitably be overemphasised."No way your Class 70 could beat my Class 100! My profile clearly says that he's stronger than your guy."Flexibility gives room for discretion to be used appropriately. We've had that debate already. Twice now. Quote On this eve, the thirtieth anniversary of that first colony, many are left to wonder; is the world fast approaching a breaking point? Breaking Point: An OTC Mecha RPG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madara: Mangekyou Master Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 Which is why your points were so appropriate. XD did you get my pm? Quote STAR WARS GALAXY AT WAR ... we have cookies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadow pridak money gang Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 It's one small step from strength rankings to Energy cards for mutant powers, kids. -Tyler Quote ＳＡＹ ＩＴ ＯＮＥ ＭＯＲＥ ＴＩＭＥ ＴＥＬＬ ＭＥ ＷＨＡＴ ＩＳ ＯＮ ＹＯＵＲ ＭＩＮＤ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
25K Now! Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 And from there, all combat will be turn-based. Quote http://vimeo.com/198967785 BZPRPG Profiles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadow pridak money gang Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 I never used Energy cards playing Pokemon, man. I never had more than about ten of them in my entire collection. -Tyler Quote ＳＡＹ ＩＴ ＯＮＥ ＭＯＲＥ ＴＩＭＥ ＴＥＬＬ ＭＥ ＷＨＡＴ ＩＳ ＯＮ ＹＯＵＲ ＭＩＮＤ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AuRon the champion Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 Combat is already turn-based... Sortof... Quote BZPRPG Characters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axilus Prime Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 Especially in the Matrix. Although, if there were power levels in this game, I'm sure there would be a hash of scouter-related jokes... Already did that. XD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AuRon the champion Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 Gosh-dangit Axilus. This is why we can't have nice things! Quote BZPRPG Characters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axilus Prime Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 Ka...me...ha...me... (sneezes and the entire move blows up in my face) Well, that didn't work out. But yeah, I agree, a numbers system is a bad idea. Even if we could change our "power levels" by rage, training, high power use, etc, then that would turn into modding. So it's either boring slow-paced calculations or a modding level that is OVER 9000! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zulu Yankee Kilo Echo Posted March 13, 2013 Share Posted March 13, 2013 well i tried *discreetly kicks strength system and a pile of other ideas into a fire* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AuRon the champion Posted March 13, 2013 Share Posted March 13, 2013 Don't blame yourself Zytrix. Blame some government (preferably the US), claiming that their tax increase wouldn't allow you to implement a strength system. That would work out well. Quote BZPRPG Characters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zulu Yankee Kilo Echo Posted March 13, 2013 Share Posted March 13, 2013 I guess that works. *attempts to salvage ashes of ideas from fire* And please. Please. Call me Zyke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Havelock Vetinari Posted March 13, 2013 Share Posted March 13, 2013 Personally, I blame the whole thing on the mutants. Quote I believe you find life such a problem because you think there are the good people and the bad people. You are wrong, of course. There are, always and only, the bad people, but some of them are on opposite sides. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krayzikk Posted March 13, 2013 Author Share Posted March 13, 2013 well i tried *discreetly kicks strength system and a pile of other ideas into a fire*It's good in concept, it just doesn't work so well in practice. Quote On this eve, the thirtieth anniversary of that first colony, many are left to wonder; is the world fast approaching a breaking point? Breaking Point: An OTC Mecha RPG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madara: Mangekyou Master Posted March 13, 2013 Share Posted March 13, 2013 *growsHitlerstache*It's the X-Men. They're a menace to the city. Quote STAR WARS GALAXY AT WAR ... we have cookies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Havelock Vetinari Posted March 13, 2013 Share Posted March 13, 2013 (edited) Oh boy... Edited March 13, 2013 by Basilisk Quote I believe you find life such a problem because you think there are the good people and the bad people. You are wrong, of course. There are, always and only, the bad people, but some of them are on opposite sides. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madara: Mangekyou Master Posted March 13, 2013 Share Posted March 13, 2013 Dogammit! Jameson-reference. Quote STAR WARS GALAXY AT WAR ... we have cookies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zulu Yankee Kilo Echo Posted March 13, 2013 Share Posted March 13, 2013 No. It means your leader commits suicide after a lengthly war that leaves millions dead and two major Japanese cities radioactive wastelands. Can we stop with the Hitler metaphors now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadow pridak money gang Posted March 13, 2013 Share Posted March 13, 2013 Hitler killed himself before the atomic bombings, but otherwise I agree. -Tyler Quote ＳＡＹ ＩＴ ＯＮＥ ＭＯＲＥ ＴＩＭＥ ＴＥＬＬ ＭＥ ＷＨＡＴ ＩＳ ＯＮ ＹＯＵＲ ＭＩＮＤ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axilus Prime Posted March 13, 2013 Share Posted March 13, 2013 Kill all ze mutants. Muhahahahahahahaha. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
25K Now! Posted March 13, 2013 Share Posted March 13, 2013 I never used Energy cards playing Pokemon, man. I never had more than about ten of them in my entire collection. -TylerAm I the only one who actually used Energy cards then? Quote http://vimeo.com/198967785 BZPRPG Profiles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadow pridak money gang Posted March 13, 2013 Share Posted March 13, 2013 I'd be willing to bet you were, yea. -Tyler Quote ＳＡＹ ＩＴ ＯＮＥ ＭＯＲＥ ＴＩＭＥ ＴＥＬＬ ＭＥ ＷＨＡＴ ＩＳ ＯＮ ＹＯＵＲ ＭＩＮＤ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Havelock Vetinari Posted March 13, 2013 Share Posted March 13, 2013 I'd be willing to bet you were, yea. -Tyler Energy cards are for heretics. We burn heretics. Quote I believe you find life such a problem because you think there are the good people and the bad people. You are wrong, of course. There are, always and only, the bad people, but some of them are on opposite sides. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axilus Prime Posted March 13, 2013 Share Posted March 13, 2013 I used to buy (and frequently lose) Pokemon cards in third grade. The irritating part was, no matter what my current set was at the time, I either had a load of Energy cards and Pokemon that never used them, or no Energy cards (or the wrong ones) when I had almost only Pokemon that relied on them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadow pridak money gang Posted March 13, 2013 Share Posted March 13, 2013 I'd be willing to bet you were, yea. -Tyler Energy cards are for heretics. We burn heretics. That's my man. -Tyler Quote ＳＡＹ ＩＴ ＯＮＥ ＭＯＲＥ ＴＩＭＥ ＴＥＬＬ ＭＥ ＷＨＡＴ ＩＳ ＯＮ ＹＯＵＲ ＭＩＮＤ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Constructelf Posted March 13, 2013 Share Posted March 13, 2013 No! You have to use energy! It's part of the official rules-*shot* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
otter Posted March 13, 2013 Share Posted March 13, 2013 No! You have to use energy! It's part of the official rules-*shot* I swear, if you start doing it like that other guy did, I'll... Let's just say that none of your characters will survive nightfall in the RPG. Quote profiles i guess i'm a south american giant otter now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advent Child Posted March 13, 2013 Share Posted March 13, 2013 I used energies. Gladly. Quote ~Totally like a boomerang. I always come back. Just never when you want me to.~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Constructelf Posted March 13, 2013 Share Posted March 13, 2013 (edited) In all seriousness, I never understood energy cards. There were always too few of them to use effectively, too many pokemon to distribute them to, andtheydidn't pop up in the deck often enough. Then again, my deck consisted entirely of expansion packs; I never got a real starter deck. Edited March 13, 2013 by Constructman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advent Child Posted March 13, 2013 Share Posted March 13, 2013 It's all a matter of synergy. If you were running a single type deck, energy distribution was easy as pie. If you tried to run all of your favorite different types though, it was a recipe for disaster. Quote ~Totally like a boomerang. I always come back. Just never when you want me to.~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zulu Yankee Kilo Echo Posted March 13, 2013 Share Posted March 13, 2013 Ahem.That is all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
25K Now! Posted March 13, 2013 Share Posted March 13, 2013 Broken image. Site does not allow for hotlinking. But sure, we'll stay on topic now. Quote http://vimeo.com/198967785 BZPRPG Profiles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AuRon the champion Posted March 13, 2013 Share Posted March 13, 2013 I never really got to play that particular card game in school... It was all about friggen' Yu-Gi-Oh then... But yeah, plot development time! Quote BZPRPG Characters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thelonewander Posted March 13, 2013 Share Posted March 13, 2013 Out of all the people to betray the X-men, she was the last one I would of thought of. Quote War...war never changes.We crawl, on our knees for you,under, a sky no longer blue, we sweat, all day long for you.But we sow, seeds to see us though,cause sometimes dreams just don't come true, we wait, to reap what we are due.-Rise Against, Re-Education (through Labor) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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