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Turaga Rahaga Matoran Mata Nui The Rebuilding

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#1 Offline X-Ray

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Posted Apr 09 2013 - 03:05 PM

[color=#008080;][font="'trebuchet ms', helvetica, sans-serif;"]BS01 states on their page on the Rebuilding that the Turaga showed the Matoran of Mata Nui how to rebuild themselves after the defeat of the Bohrok-Kal, with knowledge given to them by the Rahaga. My question is, why on Earth didn't the Turaga show them how to do this earlier in the 1,000 years they spend on the island of Mata Nui? I'm pretty sure it would have helped them a lot.[/color][/font]

 

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#2 Offline Gengar

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Posted Apr 09 2013 - 03:14 PM

Well, the Turaga were secretive(and somewhat paranoid *cough* Vakama *cough*), and probably wanted to save it for an important event, which was the defeat of the Bohrok-Kal in this case.
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#3 Offline maxim21

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Posted Apr 09 2013 - 03:20 PM

It's quite possible they found that too dangerous: rebuilding yourself while you can be attacked by Rahi at any time...


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Posted Apr 09 2013 - 04:07 PM

It's quite possible they found that too dangerous: rebuilding yourself while you can be attacked by Rahi at any time...

 

Well, the sources talking about this made it seem like it took no time at all.


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Posted Apr 09 2013 - 04:13 PM

Could also be the technology wasn't up to date yet and they didn't want the risk of hurting Matoran, during the return of the Toa Turaga got more free time and the proces was sped up.
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Posted Apr 09 2013 - 07:59 PM

Because, prior to that time, the Matoran were in constant danger. Warding off monsters almost daily is hard enough. But try fighting them in a larger body you aren't used to. The Rahi/Bohrok/whatever would have you dead while you and everyone else were tripping over their own feet.


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Posted Apr 10 2013 - 02:42 PM

When you put it that way it makes one wonder why they bothered taking them to the Rahi-infested island in the first place. I mean with Teridax in a protocage there would be theoretically no reason to leave Metru Nui besides the eternal night.But that's not really here nor there...

 

Pretty much as Dralcax said, the Matoran had to fend for themselves all the time, so the Rebuilding (being on such a scale) would have to wait for a more peaceful time. Of course, naming day on the other hand was completely pointless besides re-establishing character names post-stupid-maori-lawsuit. But, I'm going off topic again...or am I? The two were both on the same day(s) weren't they?


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Posted Apr 10 2013 - 04:36 PM

When you put it that way it makes one wonder why they bothered taking them to the Rahi-infested island in the first place. I mean with Teridax in a protocage there would be theoretically no reason to leave Metru Nui besides the eternal night.But that's not really here nor there...

 

Pretty much as Dralcax said, the Matoran had to fend for themselves all the time, so the Rebuilding (being on such a scale) would have to wait for a more peaceful time. Of course, naming day on the other hand was completely pointless besides re-establishing character names post-stupid-maori-lawsuit. But, I'm going off topic again...or am I? The two were both on the same day(s) weren't they?

 

But Teridax wasn't in a protocage when the Toa left for Mata Nui. Vakama freed him. If they had stayed behind, Makuta could have easily overpowered the Matoran/Turaga and made them his slaves, which was exactly what the Turaga didn't want.  

 

And yes, the two were on the same day. 


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Posted Apr 10 2013 - 04:43 PM

Well, to your first question, Teridax actually was broken out by Roodaka with the Metru's unknowing help. He would track the Metru anywhere anyways to get revenge, and Mata Nui was the closest. Maybe they didn't even know there were other islands. Teridax (as Dume) closed all the sea gates long before. Teridax also had power over Rahi (through infected masks), so I'm sure even with another island, he would make whatever Rahi was there attack them or find another way. In the early comics, he also controlled much of nature with his powers. So it isn't so much that the island's Rahi were dangerous (many of them would probably naturally leave the Matoran alone), but that Teridax was out for revenge. No idea what you mean by eternal night. Is that just because Mata Nui was asleep, so his eyes (or Metru Nui's suns) were closed? Makes sense, I guess.So, back on topic, they changed because Lego wanted new, more posable Matoran models, and Greg went along with it. Story-wise, I like the previous idea that they need some time to get used to their new forms. They did have a period of peace there for a bit.Alternatively, maybe it was just too much work, and the Turaga didn't want to start until it was really needed, such as in fixing up all the destruction of the Bohrok.Or maybe they were all looking for an advantage in the upcoming Kohlii tournament. :P
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Posted Apr 10 2013 - 04:47 PM

Wait, they needed more piecesto rebuilt themselves right, seeing they became bigger, what if there was just not enough untill some robots came along and were defaiten and pieces were stolen from them
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Posted Apr 10 2013 - 05:17 PM

Robots? I doubt that. To be honest I don't know how they got all that material, for around 1000 Matoran. Airship parts were used to make the Koro, and I doubt that they could just use plant material.
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Posted Apr 10 2013 - 05:23 PM

Maybe parts from defeated Rahi were melted down?


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Posted Apr 10 2013 - 05:29 PM

Or Bohrok, as it took place after the Bohrok War(not directly).
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Posted Apr 10 2013 - 05:40 PM

With robots I was referring to Bohrok :)
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Posted Apr 10 2013 - 06:00 PM

Well, granted, since Matoran also made Boxor out of defeated Bohrok, molding "Matoran improvement" parts out of them wouldn't be much of a stretch. Especially considering that Bohrok are transformed Matoran. 


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Posted Apr 10 2013 - 09:40 PM

Probalbay they wanted a sign or somthing telling them the time was right


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Posted Apr 16 2013 - 10:25 AM

I find Bohrok dismantling to be the most likely, considering that they had a just gotten a decent supply of them and that the new Matoran arms were the same pieces as the Bohrok used.


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Posted Apr 20 2013 - 03:44 PM

the turraga just do stuff when they feel like it. 


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Posted Apr 20 2013 - 07:56 PM

Maybe they forgot that it was possible until that point in time...


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Posted Apr 22 2013 - 05:26 PM

I find it gruesome that if the Matoran were rebuilt with the Bohrok parts, they basically added to their bodies with parts of their dead relatives transformed corpses. 


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Posted Apr 25 2013 - 01:26 AM

Then what about compatibility issues weren't bohrok once av matoran and completely mechanical except for their krana?


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Posted Apr 25 2013 - 01:39 AM

Indeed they were, pretty much, but if anything that would make rebuilding easier since there's no organic matter to handle. I'd presume maybe they re-routed the Matoran's organic matter on their arms to compensate, or something like that. As for the av-matoran thing, considering Bohrok powers, I'd think it's sage to say there would be no compatibility issues coming from that since they seem to lose their element upon turning into a bohrok.


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Posted Apr 25 2013 - 08:09 PM

I think it was just that they had no time of doing so. They spent the first year building homes. Then the rest of the 1000 years fighting against Maktua's forces. They may not of been able to pull it off until the time that they did.


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