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Oh, yes. Pixar knows how to get their audience emotionally. I mean, seriously, that last scene with the Incinerator was just...wow. No other animation studio would have been able to pull it off so well.

I think what's best about it is that they didn't stick with the same old same old theme, but instead made it for all those kids that watched the original movies when they were seven and are grown up and going to college now. As such, the movie was different from all the rest, but that's because it was supposed to be different. I also love how the moral of this story was much more mature than most family-oriented movies: instead of the usual "be yourself" that's in every single one of Dreamworks films, TS3 plainly taught that "good things don't last forever".

My only peeve would be the lack of Buzz Lightyear action. I don't mean Demo or Spanish Buzz, I mean the actual Buzz Lightyear doing some epic fighting. That, and that Spanish Buzz would be so much more better if he turned into Japanese Buzz (I mean, he was made in Taiwan and stuff, so an overseas language setting wouldn't be that far of a stretch...)

I think BZPower should face the facts about now: BIONICLE is not going to come back, at least not for several years at the least. Why? Simple.

In 2001, LEGO made a big risk by marketing BIONICLE. Not a lot of buildable action figures were on the market, and there was a risk that it could flop. But it didn't, and that's what kept it going for about 10 years.

However, 10 years later, sales weren't as big as they used to be. From this, LEGO did their research and came up with two options.

1. People had lost interest in buildable action figures, and they just weren't selling anymore.

2. After 10 years, the storyline had gotten so complex that newcomers felt daunted at the massive amount of backlog. They tried rebooting it in 2009, but that still didn't help much.

So, that's why they created Hero Factory, which had a much more simpler story, in order to test which theory was right. Now, at this point, it can go two ways:

1. Hero Factory sells well. LEGO realizes that it was in fact the complex story that hindered sales, and continues to produce them.

2. Hero Factory flops. LEGO realizes that buildable action figures have lost their market and stop production of them.

Neither of them involves bringing BIONICLE back.

Now, that's not to say that LEGO will never bring them back, but the way things are looking, we'd better not be holding our breath. Really, it doesn't matter how much fans join the club, or how many petitions they send. LEGO is a business, which means that money comes first. It doesn't mean that they're money-hungry maniacs, or that they have no respect for their customers as long as they buy stuff. It simply means that, even though there may be a fan club with several thousand members, as long as they don't make more money, they don't produce the sets. They have families to feed and homes to take care of. BIONICLE was not selling as well for them, and no matter how big the fanbase was, there was not as many sales being made. They needed to cut losses while they could.

So yes. While I certainly wouldn't mind BIONICLE coming back, I can see LEGO's side of it as well. As a business, they do what they think is good for the company, and since we, the fanbase, weren't buying sets, they had to move on and try something new.

+9001 Awesome Points to you, dudette.

 

I'm seeeriously getting tired of all the ranting and raving over this stupid movie. Sooo overrated.

Laughin'Man, you have got to stop stealing the words right out of my mouth

I don't see why people hate when they add stuff to the movies that's not in the books. They kinda need to, to make it more interesting. If you have a problem with it then you shouldn't watch it.

No, actually, this is very untrue. If you make a movie off a book, it is always of a successful book. And if the book sold well by itself, the story must obviously interesting enough to make it into a movie without mangling it beyond belief.

The reason why I hate movies like that is because you feel cheated by the end of it. It's like they wanted to do a story but was not sure that it would take off, so they slapped the characters and setting of an existing franchise on to get the fans of said book to watch it. They want to have an "instant audience", and as such it is wrong when a movie doesn't serve the original material justice.

Anyhow, I saw it today. It was pretty good; better than Prince Caspian, but I guessed it still just...lacked something.

I don't know...the first film, the Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe, was just about perfect and remains one of my favorite movies to this day. However, with this movie, I think they just strayed too far away.

For instance: the whole plot of the movie was changed. In the original book, the Voyage was meant to find the seven lords, as well as discover what was there in the Eastern Sea. However, this whole plot about the "Dark Island" and finding the seven swords to save the world was just too much. It honestly reminded me of a video game's plot, specifically the Legend of Zelda. You sail on a ship to distant islands (Hyrule in Wind Waker) to find lost friends (Aryll) as well as several pieces of an artifact (Triforce) that will drive away a dark evil (Ganon) on an island (Link's Awakening) that manifests itself in different forms (Ganon's "Final Form"). There's even the shapeshifting princess (Midna), a human that gets turned into a beast (Werewolf Link), and so on.

Now, I'm not saying that VotDT ripped off Zelda or anything, as that's clearly not the case seeing the time and genre difference. However, what I'm trying to say here was that the new plot seemed more like a video game than anything else.

The problem with Prince Caspian and Voyage of the Dawn Treader is that they're trying to keep with the Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe's theme of liberating and saving Narnia. The problem with that, is that the storyline for each of the stories are dependent on different themes. With Prince Caspian, C.S. Lewis stated that he wanted it to have a "returning and changing" theme, to mimic what some children experienced when they returned from boarding school or when some of the soldiers came back from the war: a sort of "same yet not the same". And with Voyage of the Dawn Treader, the theme was supposed to be exploration and adventure.

The problem with this is that the movie directors either didn't know this or were stuck in a very narrow-mindset approach to making movies. "If it worked before, it should work again", they say, and then change the plot and theme of each book to mimic the first one, which ruins it.

Now, the movie did have some good points with it's artistic license, though. For instance, Lucy's desire to be more beautiful like her sister was more emphasized, but all it did was amplify the book's points, so that was good. Also, Edmund's annoyance at always being "second fiddle" was very well played, although I wish they had explored it a bit more.

Also, I must say I appreciate the director keeping the "other name" line by Aslan at the end of the movie. I was originally afraid that they would not include that, but they did, so that's good.

I just wish that one of these days they would make the movies actually follow the book, like the Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe did. It's a shame, because this was Narnia's last chance on the silver screen. With opening figures looking as they are, we probably won't get Silver Chair or any of the other books.

And I'm honestly just going to see the guy; I'm not thrilled about the White Witch showing up again. Last I remember, she only got a passing mention in the book, but:

Yeah, this. I'm gonna see the movie, as I'm a big fan of the books and all, but the plot for the movie has been screwed up so much. Man, why can't they just stick to the original plot?

I'm not thrilled at seeing Peter and Susan either...they shouldn't show up until the Last Battle, and then only Peter.

@Kahi:

Even if you dislike the movie, it's THE MOC that this entry is about. Don't spam my entry with dislikes for the movie.

 

Night Fury

Um, yeah. I was talking about movie and the MOC both. Laughing Man said exactly what I was going to say.

Cool, a MOC based on something from a horribly overrated movie for children!

 

Sorry, but there are seriously much better MOCs out there.

Dude, you just summed up everything I was about to say in a much shorter sentence.

You want hard? Try C++ coding. That'll have you reeling for weeks.

I'm about 10,000 words behind

Yeesh, drama queen. I know loads of people who didn't have cell phones when they were 15.

SPIRIT speaks the truth. I'm nearing 16, but I'm sure as Karzahni know I'm not going to get one for a long while.

Well, the title interested me enough for me to borrow Term Limits. So far, it's been quite the interesting read save the obscurities.

I don't really care about the World Series unless the Cardinals are in it

Joined as "Kahinuva". I'm interested to see what will happen this first year...

I've heard a lot about this, and I'm probably going to do something for it. I probably won't reach 50k, but yeah.

I've got a few ideas spinning around in my head, but putting them all out on paper is going to be hard...

As for chatting, I've often found that it actually does help with inspiration about ideas and such. If you guys are going to do something like it, I'd be happy to join.

I must say, this does sound interesting...

If they do allow it, then that would certainly help the fanbase immensely.

Very nice entries you guys made, much more nicer than mine Grokk seems like he'll be an interesting person to interact with...

Anyhow, congrats to all your winners!

@Shadix: You can easily tell that it will be pretty bac, because they didn't wait to come up with a good story before announcing it. They were just "o hey it makes money SEQUAL NAO", way before the first movie had even been released on DVD.

I've heard of a sequel, but knowing Dreamworks, it's more than likely going to be a "ooh new franchise cash it in", as pretty much all Dreamworks sequels turn out to be.

Adblock Plus works wonders. I haven't seen one of those in ages.

The real difference is that the ICC's blog post was a discussion for a continuity, not a club. A club would mean having a blog post in which only the members were allowed to post and discuss among themselves. However, our blog post was so that people that were interested in the ICC had some place to come and ask questions and thus was a discussion post about the continuity itself, and then thus not violating the rules.

Webcomic idea sounds awesome.

Yes I have. It's excellent too B)

 

-S

And you still think that HTTYD was better?

Well, you told me not to deny it, so I had to

I guess it's just a matter of preference. Though tell me, have you seen Toy Story 3?

I can see the outcast thing, but really. His voice and his character were completely different; it didn't fit him at all. It was just too old and whiny and monotone. And remember, at the beginning of the movie, they're fighting all the dragons, and at the end, they're all friends: basically the same plot.

For me, it was just kinda...bland. I mean, the plot was too cliche ("don't kill animals, they're really your friends"), Hiccup's voice was very annoying and seemed too old for his character, some of the lines in the movie were...bleh, and the characters were not developed as much throughout the film. Don't get me wrong, I'm very glad Dreamworks is moving off the "gag-a-minute" routine, but it seems like they just took it out and didn't put anything new back in. In the end, all you've got is a little awkward movie that could have been much, much better with better story, characters, and a lead voice actor.

I can easily list a number of animated films that were better, especially it's "challenger", Toy Story 3. I think that one beats "HTTYD" in pretty much every way.