Makuta_of_Oz Posted October 21, 2011 Share Posted October 21, 2011 I'm gonna regret this... I'm still seeing people openly saying that they don't want Bionicle back. So, I decided to start a poll to see if there is still a majority of Bionicle fans who still want the sets back. Quote If you use correct grammar in your posts (or try hard to), place this in your signature. Join Myst's campaign for correct grammar usage on BZPower! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plague Posted October 21, 2011 Share Posted October 21, 2011 Totally. I was thinking maybe a PROPER ending to the bionicle saga, rereleasing every set so far. This has one problem: most stores would need an entire aisle to BIONICLE! Quote http://www.mocpages.com/home.php/67904 < My Mocpages! My first (and currently ONLY) MOC on BZP! > http://www.bzpower.c...?showtopic=5426 PLAGUEAvatar pic taken [and edited] by me. DON"T STEAL IT! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Blank- Posted October 21, 2011 Share Posted October 21, 2011 No. They made Takanuva Mistika. There is no way to get better. Also for other reasons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mesonak Posted October 21, 2011 Share Posted October 21, 2011 No. I don't think that, if BIONICLE was brought back at this moment in time, that Lego would handle it good enough to satisfy the fanbase. Because of that, I don't want the sets back, at least not right now. -Mesonak Quote The Three Virtues YouTube Channel ----- ----- Check it out for laughs, discussion, and more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Makuta_of_Oz Posted October 21, 2011 Author Share Posted October 21, 2011 No. I don't think that, if BIONICLE was brought back at this moment in time, that Lego would handle it good enough to satisfy the fanbase. Because of that, I don't want the sets back, at least not right now. -MesonakIt doesn't have to be brought back right now. I meant do you want it back at all, even if we have to wait twenty boring years. Quote If you use correct grammar in your posts (or try hard to), place this in your signature. Join Myst's campaign for correct grammar usage on BZPower! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plague Posted October 21, 2011 Share Posted October 21, 2011 No. I don't think that, if BIONICLE was brought back at this moment in time, that Lego would handle it good enough to satisfy the fanbase. Because of that, I don't want the sets back, at least not right now. -MesonakIt doesn't have to be brought back right now. I meant do you want it back at all, even if we have to wait twenty boring years. Aw,come on! I don't want to be thirty just to get more Bionicles! Quote http://www.mocpages.com/home.php/67904 < My Mocpages! My first (and currently ONLY) MOC on BZP! > http://www.bzpower.c...?showtopic=5426 PLAGUEAvatar pic taken [and edited] by me. DON"T STEAL IT! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Makuta Matata Posted October 21, 2011 Share Posted October 21, 2011 I do, but I don't think it would be the same. I'd prefer that it had just never ended in the first place. I want the story back more than anything... Quote Three on Three - Memoirs of the Dead - Winner!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mesonak Posted October 21, 2011 Share Posted October 21, 2011 No. I don't believe, in 20 years, that Lego would have the right mindset to continue BIONICLE. If they do, it would likely be a mangled shell of its former self. Something could change to make me think differently, but for now I'm enjoying HF too much to throw my support behind BIONICLE's return, especially considering my feelings toward Lego handling it well. To elaborate on what I mean by handling, if say, BIONICLE returns with HF-like sets AND a HF-like story, I would not want it back. I would only want BIONICLE back if it retained the overall aesthetic that the sets used to have (very detailed, not smooth and streamlined like HF), and if the same caliber of storytelling was maintained, which I doubt. -Mesonak Quote The Three Virtues YouTube Channel ----- ----- Check it out for laughs, discussion, and more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astrotorical Posted October 21, 2011 Share Posted October 21, 2011 I actually dont mind about the sets not comming back. But I long ago converted to the actualy storyline, rather than the sets.But then i would like to see them back. But like HUGE sets. like what they did with axonn. something that makes me feel accomplished when its done. *idea!* life sized toa.... hmm... Quote axonn, trying to excape my signature Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vulpelibrorum Posted October 21, 2011 Share Posted October 21, 2011 I thought for a while about this, but I'm afraid I had to go with no. The chances of Lego successfully pulling off an official Bionicle revivle that would be true to the original is, sadly, very low, for reasons that have already been stated way too many times. What I would like however is the reissue of classic Bionicle sets, similar to the classic minifigure collection. And if they do, they should be as close as possible to the originals in both construction and molded parts, not a 2002 Thunderbird-esque "modern interpretation" of the old sets. You should'nt try to fix something that isn't broken. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UltraHau Posted October 21, 2011 Share Posted October 21, 2011 Of course I want them back. Why do you think I immersed Copenhagen in polycarbonate plastic? Quote Every moment gives us a chance to become more than what we are.-Ryu, Street Fighter III: 3rd Strike: Fight for the FutureNot luck. It's what you do that makes you a hero.-Kopaka Nuva, MoLI have but one destiny.-Takanuva, MoL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dotcom Posted October 21, 2011 Share Posted October 21, 2011 Not at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ankyfdarkness Posted October 21, 2011 Share Posted October 21, 2011 Yes, I want them back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GSR Posted October 21, 2011 Share Posted October 21, 2011 Of course, though like others have said, I'm not certain how well the spirit of the original would be recaptured if the line was to return. Quote Hey: I'm not very active around BZP right now. However, you can always contact me through PM (I have email notifications set up) and I will reply as soon as I can. Useful Topics: The Q&A Compendium | The Official RPG Planning Topic Stories: Fractures | An Aftermath | Three Stories | LSO 2012 Epics: Team Three | The Shadow and the Sea | The Days They Were Needed | Glitches | Transformations | Echoes | The Kaita and the Storyteller | Nui BZPRPG: Komae · Soraya · Bohrei Blog: Defendant Lobby no. 42 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aanchir Posted October 21, 2011 Share Posted October 21, 2011 I enjoyed the theme from beginning to end, so I voted no. To enjoy it from beginning to end, after all, you have to accept that it ended. And in my opinion, it ended well. I think part of the reason it ended was an inescapable consequence of its nature as a toy line. It had a sprawling, epic storyline with lots of characters we came to know and love. But it was difficult for new fans joining in later on to appreciate the theme fully unless they got to know all the backstory for these characters and settings. And being a primarily a toy line rather than a book series or movie franchise, older story couldn't really be promoted by TLG when it was no longer effective at selling the sets still on store shelves. They did try, through the 2008 re-imagining of BIONICLEstory.com, to make older story years more accessible to newer fans. But that was no substitute for what had to be learned from the books and movies that had come previously. And again, BIONICLE was a toy line-- thus, the majority of fans would grow out of it, requiring new fans to appear to keep it successful. There were also two attempts-- 2006 and 2009-- to create new "jumping-on points" for fans, where the older story would just complement the new story rather than being necessary for understanding it. The comics started off with new numbers and the settings shifted dramatically. With that said, I don't think either of these attempted "reboots" went as intended. I know I wouldn't have liked the story of either of these years much at all if I didn't know they were the legacy of so much that had come before. I think Hero Factory and Ninjago could potentially have more staying power than BIONICLE, even though BIONICLE got off to a much better start than Hero Factory in terms of sales, becoming one of TLG's most successful product lines in 2002. If BIONICLE were to return, I do not think it could be such a rich and dense universe as it was before, since a more episodic story seems to be more reliable than BIONICLE's continuous saga. And in the form of a more episodic story I think BIONICLE would the epic scale and sense of grandness that made it so lovable in the first place. Quote Latest MOC: PAIGE (Prototype Artificial Intelligence, Gynoid Expression) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squishyfrog Posted October 21, 2011 Share Posted October 21, 2011 Unsure: While I'm happy it ended I wish it would come back so that people could shut up about their favorite toy line being discontinued. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Padishah Mehmet II Posted October 21, 2011 Share Posted October 21, 2011 Nonononononononononononononononono. Mediocre toylines returning for no win.-Dovydas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grantaire Posted October 21, 2011 Share Posted October 21, 2011 (edited) No. Bionicle was getting far too old, and needed to be shot. Edited October 21, 2011 by The Assassin Archer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Makuta_of_Oz Posted October 21, 2011 Author Share Posted October 21, 2011 I told you I'd regret making this poll... Suddenly I'm tempted to have it closed and the results wiped clean before a LEGO employee sees it... Quote If you use correct grammar in your posts (or try hard to), place this in your signature. Join Myst's campaign for correct grammar usage on BZPower! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BioGio Posted October 21, 2011 Share Posted October 21, 2011 Voted "Unsure" because I don't actively wish for the sets to return, but I would probably buy at least a few if they did. Also, you should have this poll removed just because you don't like the results. That seems rather excessive. ~ BioGio Quote dig "You're a scientist? The proposal you make violates parsimony; it introduces extra unknowns without proof for them. One might as well say unicorns power it." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zarohum Posted October 21, 2011 Share Posted October 21, 2011 (edited) No, I don't, and for good reasons. The sets were getting too repetitive, and I love the new Hero Factory building system. Not to mention that the story is terrible when it's limited to the sets. Think about Voyage of Fear, Maze of Shadows, Time Trap, the online serials... The story is at its best when Greg has the freedom to do what he wants. Don't get me wrong, I love Bionicle, and I would want it back if it could be what it once was. But seeing what the sets have become, and how good the story is, I don't want it to go back to how it was. No. I don't believe, in 20 years, that Lego would have the right mindset to continue BIONICLE. If they do, it would likely be a mangled shell of its former self. Something could change to make me think differently, but for now I'm enjoying HF too much to throw my support behind BIONICLE's return, especially considering my feelings toward Lego handling it well. To elaborate on what I mean by handling, if say, BIONICLE returns with HF-like sets AND a HF-like story, I would not want it back. I would only want BIONICLE back if it retained the overall aesthetic that the sets used to have (very detailed, not smooth and streamlined like HF), and if the same caliber of storytelling was maintained, which I doubt. -Mesonak Ah, but who would be the Lego employees at that time? The people working there now would be retiring in a few years, and our generation would be taking over the Lego company. Edited October 21, 2011 by Zarohum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larnuu Posted October 21, 2011 Share Posted October 21, 2011 50-50, i would love the bonicle saga to come back and there more sets but i;m not sure if lego would be able to make more story with out going to the beginning. I personally think the best option is to make a promo in a year or 2 that the rerelease ALL the sets they way they were but that's wishful thinking. Quote Nacuu's Slow Dance!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jean Valjean Posted October 21, 2011 Share Posted October 21, 2011 I voted "yes" but it's not a solid answer, because I understand their reason for quitting and there is the issue of how good it would be if it picked up again. For me, however, it had already gone far enough from my expectations that a different feel upon a rebuttal wouldn't hurt me. I loved the flow of the MNOG narrative where there weren't so many factions and I could spend time just enjoying the community of Tohunga. It was a close, hospitable atmosphere with good scenery and good music. Then there was that mystic mystery, the LEGO fantasy, and the almost cinematic feel. What I wouldn't give to see that again. Obviously I won't, since the series won't reboot, but can still play MNOG and have a good time, though it's not going to beat the sensation of it all back when it was new. Still, I wouldn't mind if the series continued up again, just to maintain some form of a legacy in the name of the original. Your Honor,Emperor Kraggh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Makuta_of_Oz Posted October 22, 2011 Author Share Posted October 22, 2011 50-50, i would love the bonicle saga to come back and there more sets but i;m not sure if lego would be able to make more story with out going to the beginning. I personally think the best option is to make a promo in a year or 2 that the rerelease ALL the sets they way they were but that's wishful thinking.Perhaps they could make sets that support the story, rather than the other way around like it's been the past 10 years. Regardless, now that the two groups of societies have come together on Spherus Magna, quadrillions of new story opportunities have opened up. After a break, it'll be VERY easy to start a new story with the current canon. Quote If you use correct grammar in your posts (or try hard to), place this in your signature. Join Myst's campaign for correct grammar usage on BZPower! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iPenguin Posted October 22, 2011 Share Posted October 22, 2011 Yes. But only for a year. I want them to end it on a strong note. Quote Majhost sucks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Field Marshal Rakmon Posted October 22, 2011 Share Posted October 22, 2011 Nope. BIONICLE can go die in a hole, where it belongs (in happy memories so it won't suck with reincarnations (UNlike EVERY MODERATELY FRANCHISE REBOOT EVER)). That's all I've got. Quote Signature Guidelines: Signature may not exceed the 800x300 limit. For more reference use the box located in your signature editor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skarloth Posted October 22, 2011 Share Posted October 22, 2011 No, I don't, I feel bad saying this on a Bionicle fansite, but they had their time in the sun, ten years time. I don't want them back, nor do I need them back, I've moved on from buying Lego sets, so they really don't have a purpose in my life anymore. *Shrug* It looks like BZP is half-and-half on this subject... -Skar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aanchir Posted October 22, 2011 Share Posted October 22, 2011 I told you I'd regret making this poll... Suddenly I'm tempted to have it closed and the results wiped clean before a LEGO employee sees it...LEGO wouldn't use a poll like this on a BIONICLE fansite to determine demand anyway. They'd use real market research with a more representative sampling of kids. Usually, the consumers determine whether a theme is viable, not the designers. The real question is why BIONICLE would come back. The theme was ended not because of some arbitrary decision but because its sales were no longer significant compared to the sales a new theme with a different story structure would offer. Hero Factory has proven quite successful with its simpler character names, and its simpler and more episodic story. It's not one of LEGO's most successful themes like BIONICLE was in 2002, but Hero Recon Team has been a huge success (pretty consistently remaining in the top 20 items on shop.LEGO.com). It's impossible to tell at this point if it has staying power, but Hero Factory ending would not offer even the slightest evidence that BIONICLE would be any more successful. Another question I have is why do you want it back? If you liked it so much before, what makes you think the necessary changes to make the story more sustainable than before wouldn't affect what you liked about the story? Hero Factory, after all, doesn't have nearly so many species, characters, elemental powers, locations, or other universe details as BIONICLE did. And Hero Factory's story was largely written based on what hadn't proven effective in BIONICLE. A revived BIONICLE theme would therefore likely have to eliminate a lot of these rich details in favor of a more simplistic adventure story with no deep overarching plot. Personally, I think the theme ended well. There are plenty more opportunities for stories, it's true. But the fact is that unless people actually appreciate these stories, then they're just a hindrance to the theme's success rather than an asset. The failure of the BIONICLE books speaks far louder than anything I could say on the subject. Quote Latest MOC: PAIGE (Prototype Artificial Intelligence, Gynoid Expression) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astrotorical Posted October 22, 2011 Share Posted October 22, 2011 Im not even sure why i should post here anymore, with all these depressing statements. themes, ideas, elements, key plot. you all sound like an english teacher. Quote axonn, trying to excape my signature Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just A Dot Posted October 22, 2011 Share Posted October 22, 2011 I say unsure. Give it a couple years, then give us a full reboot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mesonak Posted October 22, 2011 Share Posted October 22, 2011 I told you I'd regret making this poll... Suddenly I'm tempted to have it closed and the results wiped clean before a LEGO employee sees it...It's not like it matters anyway. Lego knows, by this point, that the fanbase is split on the subject. The knowledge hasn't altered their course at all. -Mesonak Quote The Three Virtues YouTube Channel ----- ----- Check it out for laughs, discussion, and more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Makuta_of_Oz Posted October 22, 2011 Author Share Posted October 22, 2011 Another question I have is why do you want it back? If you liked it so much before, what makes you think the necessary changes to make the story more sustainable than before wouldn't affect what you liked about the story? Hero Factory, after all, doesn't have nearly so many species, characters, elemental powers, locations, or other universe details as BIONICLE did. And Hero Factory's story was largely written based on what hadn't proven effective in BIONICLE. A revived BIONICLE theme would therefore likely have to eliminate a lot of these rich details in favor of a more simplistic adventure story with no deep overarching plot.Personally, I generally like a franchise for its characters and its races and their cultures, rather than the actual story itself, and Bionicle is no exception. That's not to say I have anything against the story, but I always look at the characters and culture first. Quote If you use correct grammar in your posts (or try hard to), place this in your signature. Join Myst's campaign for correct grammar usage on BZPower! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorek Posted October 22, 2011 Share Posted October 22, 2011 This is such a broad question; obviously I think a lot of people would like BIONICLE back at a certain point, but at what point, for instance? Would it co-exist with Hero Factory? If the sets are going to use the same/similar building style, I'm going to say no, I don't want it back. Hero Factory really embodies the new style, and I don't think it would quite fit BIONICLE. But like I said, it's a really vague question, so I don't think the answers you get are going to express everything that you would need to know about what people think (I tend to call these "self gratification" polls, but I digress). Quote BS01's Ambassador (Like us, Follow us) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Makuta_of_Oz Posted October 22, 2011 Author Share Posted October 22, 2011 This is such a broad question; obviously I think a lot of people would like BIONICLE back at a certain point, but at what point, for instance? Would it co-exist with Hero Factory? If the sets are going to use the same/similar building style, I'm going to say no, I don't want it back. Hero Factory really embodies the new style, and I don't think it would quite fit BIONICLE. But like I said, it's a really vague question, so I don't think the answers you get are going to express everything that you would need to know about what people think (I tend to call these "self gratification" polls, but I digress).What I asked was if people wanted Bionicle back at all. I never thought of "Depends", but I guess "unsure" counts as such. People who wanted it back after a certain amount of time could say "yes", because they'd still want it back Quote If you use correct grammar in your posts (or try hard to), place this in your signature. Join Myst's campaign for correct grammar usage on BZPower! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paleo Posted October 23, 2011 Share Posted October 23, 2011 Not until Hero Factory has had a good run and only when it gets back it's "new" factor. Then yes. Quote Flickr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simulacrum Posted October 23, 2011 Share Posted October 23, 2011 Of Course.But only If Lego gives it proper timing. Also, I personally If bionicle wasn't re-released in the "New Constraction" Building system. Make all new peices, Masks, and Bravo, my dreams come true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonicBOOM XS Posted October 23, 2011 Share Posted October 23, 2011 I'd love to have them back, but only when the time is right. Quote Undergoing Renovations... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmic Titan Posted October 23, 2011 Share Posted October 23, 2011 I would want Bionicle back but bringing back the dead is never a good idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vensai Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 I'm not sure if LEGO would be able to make it appealing enough to the fanbase. Quote Gavla's Comics 4.0 Dark's Comics the 3rd Movie Bm-the Prequel Bionicle Star Wars Vezon the Were-Spinax Unity, Duty, Something Credit to Rokroro for the banner. And credit to Golden Avohkii for the avatar Check out this great epic: Toa Takua's Epicenter Formerly "Takanuva Toa of Twilight" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishers64 Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 Yes, I want the sets back, if they support a viable storyline concept, which I believe Bionicle still has the potential to do. Quote Hero Factory RPG | Bionicle Mafia XXIX: Storyline & Theories Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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