BZPRPG News and Discussion

[Endless Sea (Alaki Nuva)]

They've got a page for all three BZPRPGs on TVTropes, and for some reason all three have equal amounts of relevant content, despite the fact that one lasted the better part of a decade, one only lasted a couple years, and one lasted only a few months.

 

...it kinda needs some updating.  

[Franco]

Ah, the NBZP, such a great time...

Yeah, a time, in which Naara was played by KNI, when Aexias was my only real character.

 

RIP, Rusty Nickel. Never forget.

[Not Quite Dead]

They've got a page for all three BZPRPGs on TVTropes, and for some reason all three have equal amounts of relevant content, despite the fact that one lasted the better part of a decade, one only lasted a couple years, and one lasted only a few months.

 

...it kinda needs some updating.  

 

So some guy called Stronin already used unlimited blade works?

 

, I thought I was being original

[Silvan Haven]

There is no originality in the BZPRPG, only stuff that people have forgotten was already done.

 

Besides, unlimited blade works is too cool not to have already been done by somebody.

[25K Now!]

Ha.

 

Ha.

 

Ha.

 

That wasn't me.

[Light]

I used a giant tree as a sword in my noob days which aaaaaaaren't really over yet.

ALL HAIL THE TREESWORD

A giant tree.

THE TREESWORD IS LOVE, THE TREESWORD IS LIFE

And I was up against some of the best RPers in this joint.

BOW IN SUBMISSION TO THE TREESWORD, PEONS

So, before you people say that you're noobs... Yeah XD

[25K Now!]

Then you got shanked by the lawn enforcement.

[Toatapio Nuva]

Proud to have witnessed the unlimited blade works move.

 

Twice.

[Nato G]

Okay.... sounds like I missed, well, a lot.

[NorikSigma]

Unlimited blade?

 

OP pls nerf

 

(Srsly wut is it)

[Razgriz]

Oh please that's nothing compared to that time I rowed and fought the power

[25K Now!]

Oh please that's nothing compared to that time I rowed and fought the power

I remember that Kamina Punch that took place within a delusion.

[Endless Sea (Alaki Nuva)]

You guys have no idea how tempted I was to play as a Toa of Iron with a Sanok just so I could go Archer on everyone I meet.

[Nuju Metru]

You guys have no idea how tempted I was to play as a Toa of Iron with a Sanok just so I could go Archer on everyone I meet.

 

 

Boo expies. Boo.

[shadow pridak money gang]

Ahhh, one of the six or seven safe for work Sterling Archer gifs. Bless you.

 

-Tyler

[25K Now!]

Truly magnificent.

[Nato G]

Not many people seem to use the Sanok, I've noticed. 

[Endless Sea (Alaki Nuva)]

Which is weird, because accuracy is another power that can be really easily abused for fun and profit.

[Silvan Haven]

Most people tend to enjoy close range combat more. Masks like the Sanok have somewhat limited usefulness at that range.

[Nato G]

Not necessarily. For example, I gave my Sanok to a knife-throwing Toa of Plasma. That's great for mid to close range combat. 

[Krayzikk]

Not necessarily. For example, I gave my Sanok to a knife-throwing Toa of Plasma. That's great for mid to close range combat. 

 

Throwing a knife at close range is just kinda wasteful. Mid-range, maybe, but even then you're still within pretty easy reach of weapons more suited for that area. Sanok-aimed knife is really most optimal at low long range, high mid range.

[Razgriz]

Most people tend to enjoy close range combat more. Masks like the Sanok have somewhat limited usefulness at that range.

[Continued Laughter]

[Nato G]

Normally I'd agree that throwing a knife at close range is wasteful. But if the thrower is using a Sanok, there is pretty much no way in karz that they could possibly miss. Unfortunately, I've never had a chance to test that theory, since my Sanok-wearing Toa hasn't been in a fight yet. 

[Krayzikk]

It isn't a matter of missing; if a knife thrower misses at close, or even mid, range they aren't very good at their job. It's wasteful because at close, or mid, range, a thrown knife is going to have both limited force and a limited target area due to the constraints of movement. If you want to throw a knife at the chest, even with a Sanok, you're going to have to line that shot up, and make the movement. That's time enough for any halfway decent combatant to take advantage of the opening those necessary movements create.

 

At close range, you're going to find yourself stabbed before you finish the throw. Even if you don't, you've just thrown a weapon away; a weapon that, unless you've gotten a very lucky break, hasn't incapacitated your opponent. At mid you run the same risk, because you're still within easy reach of a large number of (common) melee weapons.

 

Maybe you'll catch more breaks that I think, but a decent close or mid range combatant may very well make you into a pincushion.

[Nato G]

Note to self: invest in more effective Sanok usage strategies...

 

On that note, my character also wields a bow, but she doesn't have much skill with it. Now, according to BS01, The Sanok allows its user to turn virtually any inanimate object into a projectile weapon and hit almost any target they aim for.

 

So does this mean her aim with the bow would still have a very good chance of hitting a target, thanks to her mask rather than her own skill? By extension, does this mena that any person with a Sanok could theoretically pick up any projectile weapon or object, and still have improved accuracy, without having any experience with said weapon or object? 

Edited October 3, 2014 by NatoGreavesy

[Silvan Haven]

 

[Continued Laughter]

 

I said that its usefulness was limited, not that it was useless.

 

 

 

So does this mean her aim with the bow would still have a very good chance of hitting a target, thanks to her mask rather than her own skill? By extension, does this mena that any person with a Sanok could theoretically pick up any projectile weapon or object, and still have improved accuracy, without having any experience with said weapon or object?

 

The main canon example I remember of its use was with a rock so...

[Endless Sea (Alaki Nuva)]

It isn't a matter of missing; if a knife thrower misses at close, or even mid, range they aren't very good at their job. It's wasteful because at close, or mid, range, a thrown knife is going to have both limited force and a limited target area due to the constraints of movement. If you want to throw a knife at the chest, even with a Sanok, you're going to have to line that shot up, and make the movement. That's time enough for any halfway decent combatant to take advantage of the opening those necessary movements create.

 

At close range, you're going to find yourself stabbed before you finish the throw. Even if you don't, you've just thrown a weapon away; a weapon that, unless you've gotten a very lucky break, hasn't incapacitated your opponent. At mid you run the same risk, because you're still within easy reach of a large number of (common) melee weapons.

 

Maybe you'll catch more breaks that I think, but a decent close or mid range combatant may very well make you into a pincushion.

 

If a knife thrower throws knives at close range, the knife thrower isn't very smart.  Be realistic, man.

 

Not to mention the mask would still be helpful.  If I remember the canon properly, it doesn't just help your aim, it also helps you figure out what you want to aim at in the first place.  (Granted, Hewkii could have managed to guess about the chain reaction thing and only needed the mask's help dropping it in just the right manner, but somehow I doubt it.)

[Ghosthands]

Boo expies. Boo.

 

 

NBZP Lohkar definitely wasn't a total Jack Sparrow expy nope nah nosiree

Edited October 3, 2014 by Twelfth Ghosthands

[The Lorax]

Note to self: invest in more effective Sanok usage strategies...

 

On that note, my character also wields a bow, but she doesn't have much skill with it. Now, according to BS01, The Sanok allows its user to turn virtually any inanimate object into a projectile weapon and hit almost any target they aim for.

 

So does this mean her aim with the bow would still have a very good chance of hitting a target, thanks to her mask rather than her own skill? By extension, does this mena that any person with a Sanok could theoretically pick up any projectile weapon or object, and still have improved accuracy, without having any experience with said weapon or object? 

 

Note to self: invest in more effective Sanok usage strategies...

 

On that note, my character also wields a bow, but she doesn't have much skill with it. Now, according to BS01, The Sanok allows its user to turn virtually any inanimate object into a projectile weapon and hit almost any target they aim for.

 

So does this mean her aim with the bow would still have a very good chance of hitting a target, thanks to her mask rather than her own skill? By extension, does this mena that any person with a Sanok could theoretically pick up any projectile weapon or object, and still have improved accuracy, without having any experience with said weapon or object? 

 

That's how I read it.

[Krayzikk]

Note to self: invest in more effective Sanok usage strategies...

 

On that note, my character also wields a bow, but she doesn't have much skill with it. Now, according to BS01, The Sanok allows its user to turn virtually any inanimate object into a projectile weapon and hit almost any target they aim for.

 

So does this mean her aim with the bow would still have a very good chance of hitting a target, thanks to her mask rather than her own skill? By extension, does this mena that any person with a Sanok could theoretically pick up any projectile weapon or object, and still have improved accuracy, without having any experience with said weapon or object? 

 

Yes and no. Yes, they would have improved accuracy. But if a Sanok-user suddenly got, say, a sniper rifle, they wouldn't know how to operate it at first. Once they knew how it worked, the improvement would kick in. Until they knew how to fire it, they might as well throw it.

 

Same with a bow. If they know how to use one, they're good. If they don't, well, again, might as well throw it.

 

EDIT: I almost forgot. The Sanok provides a boost, but it isn't really a complete substitution for know-how. Take the bow again, to use a pertinent example; that shot she fires will be quite accurate, but she still won't be good at using the bow. Actually preparing and taking her next shot will still be much worse than someone who has trained with a bow. Similarly, a Sanok user won't be able to deal with, say, the recoil of a firearm without practice.

Edited October 3, 2014 by Ninth Krayzikk

[Eyru]

The reason the Sanok isn't as OP as you think is because it doesn't account for the other character's actions. Sure, you might be able to throw a rock aimed right between someone's eyes... but what if they move?

 

Or what if the Sanok allows you to account for their movement, but they have a shield?

 

Or what if they just burn the projectile up in midair?

 

The Sanok is useful, no question about it, but there's a difference between being able to hit any target you aim for and actually being able to do damage to that target.

[Krayzikk]

Eyru also makes a good point in pointing out the other aspect of a Sanok's usefulness.

[Ghosthands]

Exactly. Perfect aim =/= perfect hit.

[The Nold]

A while back someone mentioned starting a group of mercenaries/bounty hunters/assassins/other assorted criminals and outcasts, somewhat akin to the Dark Hunters; did that ever go anywhere?

 

[Not Quite Dead]

A while back someone mentioned starting a group of mercenaries/bounty hunters/assassins/other assorted criminals and outcasts, somewhat akin to the Dark Hunters; did that ever go anywhere?

 

It has, Requiem is the IC leader.

[Nato G]

Yeah, PM Requiem if you're interested. Follow the Ta topic if you want to read what we've been up to so far (not much; just recruiting one guy and making plans for our first big act in Ko-Koro). We'll put a proper introductory post in this topic at some point. 

 

A link to our wiki page is in my sig, too, if anyone wants to have a read of that.

Edited October 3, 2014 by NatoGreavesy

[soularin]

Yes it has Nold, thanks for asking! The group, known as the Outsiders, has just taken off in the Ta-Wahi topic. It currently consists of 8 members, with 3 recruits on the way.

 

The only rule is that your character must be on the neutral spectrum of alignment. Yes, the group is motivated towards certain goals, thanks to its lawfully inclined IC leaders, but your character does not have to care about the group's motives. In fact, many are just in it for the money. In order to join IC, your character must pledge loyalty to the group as a whole, however, and prove their skills in battle (which is pretty much a given, you don't literally have to work to win the fight). Once they're in, they'll be assigned missions, and will receive full payment for completing tasks successfully. They will also receive a small, continuous payment for simply being in the group, as well as free lodging and the like.

 

Here's the wiki page for additional info: http://bzprpg.wikia.com/wiki/The_Outsiders

 

If you want in, please PM me The Outsiders are always open to new recruits (and always seeking them out), so I encourage you to join, even if you're just slightly interested. My hope is to establish a large neutral force within the game, and just provide more fun interaction in general for everyone involved.

 

On a side note, if anyone needs dirty work done and you're willing to pay us for it, I would LOVE to oblige. If you have ideas for anything, I am always open to getting the group involved. So yeah. Hit me up.

[Timageness]

Hey, Requiem! Mind if I hold off on joining for a bit? I'd really like the position of 13th member for Verulas' "Spectre" persona...

[Not Quite Dead]

http://www.bzpower.com/board/topic/11188-bzprpg-ko-wahi/?p=749793

 

is Kellin x Dayeth a ship yet?

[Nato G]

No. 

 

Speaking of which, Dayeth could really use a hand right now. 

 

http://www.bzpower.com/board/topic/11188-bzprpg-ko-wahi/page-44?do=findComment&comment=749868

Edited October 3, 2014 by NatoGreavesy