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Is there a de facto leader of the Order?

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#1 Offline fishers64

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Posted Jun 22 2013 - 01:16 PM

In Helryx's absence, is there a member that would serve as leader of the Order? Or are all the members off doing their own things?


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Posted Jun 22 2013 - 01:45 PM

Bs01 doesn't list any ranks other than Helryx being the leader.  I find it hard to believe they wouldn't have a second in command, and I'd also think whoever it is is sufficiently important for them to have been mentioned at some point.  Therefore, it's probably one of Tobduk, Trinuma, Botar. Jerbraz, Johmak or Hydraxon.  Some of them have obviously died already, but recently enough in storyline that the ranks won't have been updated.  If I were to guess, I'd say Trinuma. 


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Posted Jun 22 2013 - 01:52 PM

I believe Tobduk is the second-in-command. When Helryx left Daxia during the war against the Brotherhood, Tobduk was placed in charge, and BS01 describes him as a "senior member" of the OoMN.


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Posted Jun 22 2013 - 01:58 PM

Yeah, probably him or Johmak. I can think of reasons why all the others wouldn't work- Hydraxon's just a jailer, Botar sort of is just the jailer's assistant, Jerbraz is invisible, Tobduk is mentally unstable. We don't have very much characterization for Johmak, or even a definitive picture, but Trinuma isn't terribly important to the main story either, so there's no reason to rule either one out because of that.Edit: I started writing my post before Infrared posted, so I didn't see his post and when I said "him" at the beginning, I meant Trinuma.

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Posted Jun 22 2013 - 03:22 PM

There's no official designation, no. Tobduk seems a pretty good guess; Trinuma always seemed to be in a servile position, but maybe that's just my impression. I don't think Helryx left Daxia very often (if ever) until the war, so it's possible there's no official second-in-command position at all, though I like to think they would have discussed that eventuality for the war.


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Posted Jun 22 2013 - 04:34 PM

I do remember seeing in BS01 saying he was sitting in Helryx's chair and holding one of her knifes. So I guess he's taking charge of the OoMN for the mean time.


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Posted Jun 22 2013 - 04:36 PM

I like to think of Axonn as a potential contender. 


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Posted Jun 22 2013 - 07:37 PM

I like to think of Axonn as a potential contender. 

Axonn is off in the same fortress Helryx is, so he can't be running the Order right now.  


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Posted Jun 22 2013 - 09:25 PM

They probably have a protocol for that sort of thing, but she hasn't been gone that long and the universe just ended and dumped them out on a new planet, so I don't imagine their beurocracy it particularily efficient with that sort of thing. I think they all have the capacty to work together just fine for a while without needing someone in charge to bark orders at them. Their a pretty close-knit group of teammate, not a military platoon.


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Posted Jun 23 2013 - 03:45 PM

I don't know if Tobduk has some official role, but I don't think there are many people who would try to argue with him. :P


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Posted Jun 23 2013 - 04:54 PM

I like to think of Axonn as a potential contender. 

 

I would've expected it to be one of the founding members after Helryx, and Axonn was recruited to it, rather than helping to lead.  Also the order were quite happy to station him on a permanent basis on Voya Nui.  I don't think they'd allow there second most senior member to be stranded on an island for over a thousand years. 


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Posted Jun 23 2013 - 05:35 PM

Probably, they just never addressed it. Because, you know, Helryx isn't dead yet.


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Posted Jun 25 2013 - 10:08 PM

In the web serials, Tobduk took over for Helryx.


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Posted Jul 05 2013 - 08:06 PM

Yeah, I assumed Tobduk was second-in-command. He's not likable, but he's the kind who wouldn't deviate from what Helryx wanted.


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Posted Jul 07 2013 - 03:34 AM

Would he? I mean, he threatened to imprison a member of the Order for an undefined period of time and deliberately let a villain go free just to annoy said Order member.
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Posted Jul 07 2013 - 11:43 AM

 

I like to think of Axonn as a potential contender. 

 

I would've expected it to be one of the founding members after Helryx, and Axonn was recruited to it, rather than helping to lead.  Also the order were quite happy to station him on a permanent basis on Voya Nui.  I don't think they'd allow there second most senior member to be stranded on an island for over a thousand years. 

 

Except he was guarding the Ignika. They didn't just leave him there, he was serving a purpose. A very important one, too. Would the Order have trusted any run of the mill agent to guard the Ignika, or would they have chosen someone they could trust?


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Posted Jul 07 2013 - 02:09 PM

I think Axonn would be a contender now for a high rank in a the chain of succession; he proved himself over all that time.

 

But at the beginning he would likely not be very high up.

 

In other words, things change over time. But we also need to keep in mind that leading an organization requires leadership skills. He had those as a warlord, presumably, but he may be quite rusty now. :P So I think even he would not want to be too near the top except if there was nobody else available.


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