shadow pridak money gang Posted August 2, 2012 Share Posted August 2, 2012 On a similar, related note: how does everyone know who Dorian is on sight even though he rarely, if ever, gives his name and he just died a couple months ago in-game?-Teezy ＳＡＹ ＩＴ ＯＮＥ ＭＯＲＥ ＴＩＭＥ ＴＥＬＬ ＭＥ ＷＨＡＴ ＩＳ ＯＮ ＹＯＵＲ ＭＩＮＤ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
otter Posted August 2, 2012 Share Posted August 2, 2012 On a similar, related note: how does everyone know who Dorian is on sight even though he rarely, if ever, gives his name and he just died a couple months ago in-game?-TeezyI can honestly say that wasn't the case with my characters.I blame metagaming. profiles i guess i'm a south american giant otter now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~Xemnas~ Posted August 2, 2012 Share Posted August 2, 2012 (edited) On a similar, related note: how does everyone know who Dorian is on sight even though he rarely, if ever, gives his name and he just died a couple months ago in-game?-TeezyExactly- nobody's supposed to know. He's in a different body, remember? Kal's right- it's the metagaming's fault. Edited August 2, 2012 by Sam Nex BZPRPG Profiles Ghosts of Bara Magna Profile Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenLuke Posted August 2, 2012 Share Posted August 2, 2012 (edited) Obviously, Dorian's picking up a reputation as Mata Nui's biggest chick-magnet. Edited August 2, 2012 by BenLuke-116 BZPRPG Profiles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a goose Posted August 2, 2012 Share Posted August 2, 2012 On a similar, related note: how does everyone know who Dorian is on sight even though he rarely, if ever, gives his name and he just died a couple months ago in-game?-TeezyBecause some people are up-to-date, and have very good reasons for being so.- Vorex [BZPRPG PROFILES] Nikarra - Kaelynn - Ronan - Muir - Donal - Aerus - Montague - Kira - Koura - Learu - Alteora - Fuacht - Caana - Nessen - Merrill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
otter Posted August 2, 2012 Share Posted August 2, 2012 On a similar, related note: how does everyone know who Dorian is on sight even though he rarely, if ever, gives his name and he just died a couple months ago in-game?-TeezyBecause some people are up-to-date, and have very good reasons for being so.- VorexBecause metagaming. profiles i guess i'm a south american giant otter now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenLuke Posted August 2, 2012 Share Posted August 2, 2012 You say that as if it's a good thing. > BZPRPG Profiles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a goose Posted August 2, 2012 Share Posted August 2, 2012 On a similar, related note: how does everyone know who Dorian is on sight even though he rarely, if ever, gives his name and he just died a couple months ago in-game?-TeezyBecause some people are up-to-date, and have very good reasons for being so.- VorexBecause metagaming.I don't metagame.- Vorex [BZPRPG PROFILES] Nikarra - Kaelynn - Ronan - Muir - Donal - Aerus - Montague - Kira - Koura - Learu - Alteora - Fuacht - Caana - Nessen - Merrill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
otter Posted August 2, 2012 Share Posted August 2, 2012 Then explain how he knows Dorian's full name, when looking through that entire conversation, I haven't found a single spot where Dorian ever gave his last name at least-I don't think he even gave his real name. profiles i guess i'm a south american giant otter now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~Xemnas~ Posted August 2, 2012 Share Posted August 2, 2012 (edited) Then explain how he knows Dorian's full name, when looking through that entire conversation, I haven't found a single spot where Dorian ever gave his last name at least-I don't think he even gave his real name.The only one he ever gave his real name to was Nikarra- I don't think she would've told anyone. And even then, I don't think she knows Dorian's last name. Edited August 2, 2012 by Sam Nex BZPRPG Profiles Ghosts of Bara Magna Profile Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadow pridak money gang Posted August 2, 2012 Share Posted August 2, 2012 He went out of his way to not even say the name "Dorian" when Xylak was around. It's one thing when you hear the name of one of the island's most skilled assassins, and you're in a place like Xa-Koro - that I can understand.But having him know Dorian's full name with just a wink and a departure is ridiculous.-Teezy ＳＡＹ ＩＴ ＯＮＥ ＭＯＲＥ ＴＩＭＥ ＴＥＬＬ ＭＥ ＷＨＡＴ ＩＳ ＯＮ ＹＯＵＲ ＭＩＮＤ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a goose Posted August 2, 2012 Share Posted August 2, 2012 IC: Dorian (The Final Problem, Xa-Koro)I wasn't worried that Xylak knew my name, I was irked. I had gone through a lot of trouble to make sure no one besides Nikki - who, I had to admit, I was kind of cool with trusting something like that to - had figured out my name, and the fact that this guy pulled it out of his hat in the quarter of a second meant one thing: someone had told him. And seeing as he had no clue I existed until I came here...well, either Nikarra had told him - impossible, since she's been in my bedroom or in my arms for days and I'd never seen this bro before - or...Spy in Bad Company.Well, if that ain't a...-TeezyTa-daaaa!- Vorex [BZPRPG PROFILES] Nikarra - Kaelynn - Ronan - Muir - Donal - Aerus - Montague - Kira - Koura - Learu - Alteora - Fuacht - Caana - Nessen - Merrill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Relapse Posted August 2, 2012 Share Posted August 2, 2012 Metagaming then thinking up explanations is still metagaming. BZPRPG ProfilesIC: "It comes with the job," Halfimus explained, "I'm not paid enough to give anything outside quick flavour descriptions." So pay me more AuRon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Padishah Mehmet II Posted August 2, 2012 Share Posted August 2, 2012 On a similar, related note: how does everyone know who Dorian is on sight even though he rarely, if ever, gives his name and he just died a couple months ago in-game?-TeezyBecause some people are up-to-date, and have very good reasons for being so.- VorexBecause metagaming.I don't metagame.- VorexExcept when you do.-Dovydas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
otter Posted August 2, 2012 Share Posted August 2, 2012 (edited) Was there ever any in-character interaction between Xylak and the spy?Just saying "There's a spy" doesn't count unless the interaction was actually there.EDIT: Even if there is a spy, if you know this without the interaction, it's still metagaming.As our friend KNI so well put it,Metagaming then thinking up explanations is still metagaming. Edited August 2, 2012 by Kal Grochi profiles i guess i'm a south american giant otter now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenLuke Posted August 2, 2012 Share Posted August 2, 2012 It's fun knowing exactly what's going whilst everyone else doesn't. :3 BZPRPG Profiles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a goose Posted August 2, 2012 Share Posted August 2, 2012 Was there ever any in-character interaction between Xylak and the spy?Just saying "There's a spy" doesn't count unless the interaction was actually there.There are time-skips and jam sessions, though.- Vorex [BZPRPG PROFILES] Nikarra - Kaelynn - Ronan - Muir - Donal - Aerus - Montague - Kira - Koura - Learu - Alteora - Fuacht - Caana - Nessen - Merrill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
otter Posted August 2, 2012 Share Posted August 2, 2012 And yet, there was never any interaction where Xylak could have learned this.I'm sorry, but unless you can provide the actual posts where he was told this, I'm still going to chalk it up to metagaming. profiles i guess i'm a south american giant otter now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadow pridak money gang Posted August 2, 2012 Share Posted August 2, 2012 Alright, time for me to lay out the schematics of this situation.There are currently three members of Bad Company in the casino: they would be Dorian, who is very clearly not spying on himself - unless staring obsessively into his mirror counts - as we can all tell, Grokk - who has been gambling and sleeping away his vacation and hasn't seen anyone besides hot waitresses, and Sev, who just showed up a couple hours ago in-game.Everyone else in Bad Company has been under lock and key in the bunker, being constantly monitored and spied on by every other member of Bad Company. For the spy to get out and talk to Xylak would be a tactical impossibility, and seeing as I just looked through the initial conversation in Po-Wahi and Dorian never gave his last name there, either, I have no idea how Xylak could plausibly know it.-Teezy ＳＡＹ ＩＴ ＯＮＥ ＭＯＲＥ ＴＩＭＥ ＴＥＬＬ ＭＥ ＷＨＡＴ ＩＳ ＯＮ ＹＯＵＲ ＭＩＮＤ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Relapse Posted August 2, 2012 Share Posted August 2, 2012 I'm fairly certain he only told Brykon his last name, and in quiet. Away from Illicia. BZPRPG ProfilesIC: "It comes with the job," Halfimus explained, "I'm not paid enough to give anything outside quick flavour descriptions." So pay me more AuRon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a goose Posted August 2, 2012 Share Posted August 2, 2012 Alright, time for me to lay out the schematics of this situation.There are currently three members of Bad Company in the casino: they would be Dorian, who is very clearly not spying on himself - unless staring obsessively into his mirror counts - as we can all tell, Grokk - who has been gambling and sleeping away his vacation and hasn't seen anyone besides hot waitresses, and Sev, who just showed up a couple hours ago in-game.Everyone else in Bad Company has been under lock and key in the bunker, being constantly monitored and spied on by every other member of Bad Company. For the spy to get out and talk to Xylak would be a tactical impossibility, and seeing as I just looked through the initial conversation in Po-Wahi and Dorian never gave his last name there, either, I have no idea how Xylak could plausibly know it.-TeezyI was not aware that his last name hadn't been revealed to the entirety of BC. I'll go back and edit that.- Vorex [BZPRPG PROFILES] Nikarra - Kaelynn - Ronan - Muir - Donal - Aerus - Montague - Kira - Koura - Learu - Alteora - Fuacht - Caana - Nessen - Merrill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
otter Posted August 2, 2012 Share Posted August 2, 2012 And yet, how did Xylak learn even the first name?Show us the post(s) where he learned this information. profiles i guess i'm a south american giant otter now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a goose Posted August 2, 2012 Share Posted August 2, 2012 And yet, how did Xylak learn even the first name?Show us the post(s) where he learned this information.Jam. Session.An actual player did have a spy in BC who did make him aware of Dorian's first name. However, unless the player wants to reveal themselves, I have agreed not to tell anyone who they are.- Vorex [BZPRPG PROFILES] Nikarra - Kaelynn - Ronan - Muir - Donal - Aerus - Montague - Kira - Koura - Learu - Alteora - Fuacht - Caana - Nessen - Merrill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadow pridak money gang Posted August 2, 2012 Share Posted August 2, 2012 dorian's new namestanley yelnatsproblem solved-Teezy ＳＡＹ ＩＴ ＯＮＥ ＭＯＲＥ ＴＩＭＥ ＴＥＬＬ ＭＥ ＷＨＡＴ ＩＳ ＯＮ ＹＯＵＲ ＭＩＮＤ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
otter Posted August 2, 2012 Share Posted August 2, 2012 Jam Session that was never posted up to provide actual information to Xylak.See, the way I've always learned is this: A jam session is where two or more people work together on one big post, generally involving multiple characters of their own*, not where one person just gives another player information, and then their character magically knows it.Which is what seems to be happening.*Feel free to correct me on that, all of you other big-time RPers. profiles i guess i'm a south american giant otter now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~Xemnas~ Posted August 2, 2012 Share Posted August 2, 2012 dorian's new namestanley yelnatsproblem solved-TeezyYes, and we'll send him to Camp Green Lake and make him dig for buried treasure. BZPRPG Profiles Ghosts of Bara Magna Profile Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Relapse Posted August 2, 2012 Share Posted August 2, 2012 ...Jam sessions don't count unless you post them. BZPRPG ProfilesIC: "It comes with the job," Halfimus explained, "I'm not paid enough to give anything outside quick flavour descriptions." So pay me more AuRon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadow pridak money gang Posted August 2, 2012 Share Posted August 2, 2012 "here's how you say my name, kids""sigh cope path"-Teezy ＳＡＹ ＩＴ ＯＮＥ ＭＯＲＥ ＴＩＭＥ ＴＥＬＬ ＭＥ ＷＨＡＴ ＩＳ ＯＮ ＹＯＵＲ ＭＩＮＤ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a goose Posted August 2, 2012 Share Posted August 2, 2012 ...Jam sessions don't count unless you post them.It is going to be posted, though. Just hasn't been posted yet (and for specific reasons). But it does exist. And when the player comes back online, I'm going to send him an angry PM for disappearing right when he could have been useful.- Vorex [BZPRPG PROFILES] Nikarra - Kaelynn - Ronan - Muir - Donal - Aerus - Montague - Kira - Koura - Learu - Alteora - Fuacht - Caana - Nessen - Merrill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
otter Posted August 2, 2012 Share Posted August 2, 2012 ...Jam sessions don't count unless you post them.It is going to be posted, though. Just hasn't been posted yet (and for specific reasons). But it does exist. And when the player comes back online, I'm going to send him an angry PM for disappearing right when he could have been useful.- VorexI'm fairly certain that they don't count retroactively, either. profiles i guess i'm a south american giant otter now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Relapse Posted August 2, 2012 Share Posted August 2, 2012 ...Jam sessions don't count unless you post them.It is going to be posted, though. Just hasn't been posted yet (and for specific reasons). But it does exist. And when the player comes back online, I'm going to send him an angry PM for disappearing right when he could have been useful.- VorexBut see, you literally made the post invalid the second you had Xylak step inside the bar. He can't have learned the info because he went in the bar before the post happened. The post will have to happen after.So don't be mad at Onarax. Be made at you. BZPRPG ProfilesIC: "It comes with the job," Halfimus explained, "I'm not paid enough to give anything outside quick flavour descriptions." So pay me more AuRon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riisiing Moon Posted August 2, 2012 Share Posted August 2, 2012 dorian's new namestanley yelnatsproblem solved-TeezyBeast can be Armpit. "I admire your style, which is colorful, if monochromatic." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a goose Posted August 2, 2012 Share Posted August 2, 2012 ...Jam sessions don't count unless you post them.It is going to be posted, though. Just hasn't been posted yet (and for specific reasons). But it does exist. And when the player comes back online, I'm going to send him an angry PM for disappearing right when he could have been useful.- VorexBut see, you literally made the post invalid the second you had Xylak step inside the bar. He can't have learned the info because he went in the bar before the post happened. The post will have to happen after.So don't be mad at Onarax. Be made at you.Who said anything about Onarax? And the post happened before the bar. And there is IC evidence of it.- Vorex [BZPRPG PROFILES] Nikarra - Kaelynn - Ronan - Muir - Donal - Aerus - Montague - Kira - Koura - Learu - Alteora - Fuacht - Caana - Nessen - Merrill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mef Man Posted August 2, 2012 Share Posted August 2, 2012 Oh my word, this debate is so silly...Jam sessions should be outlawed unless ICed...-Mef http://www.bzpower.c...t=80#entry44488 My BZPRPG characters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a goose Posted August 2, 2012 Share Posted August 2, 2012 Oh my word, this debate is so silly...Jam sessions should be outlawed unless ICed...-MefFor the record, only a few things were actually decided outside of the RPG. The actual event which caused it was IC.- Vorex [BZPRPG PROFILES] Nikarra - Kaelynn - Ronan - Muir - Donal - Aerus - Montague - Kira - Koura - Learu - Alteora - Fuacht - Caana - Nessen - Merrill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
otter Posted August 2, 2012 Share Posted August 2, 2012 You're saying it was ICAnd yetYou provide no proof. profiles i guess i'm a south american giant otter now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a goose Posted August 2, 2012 Share Posted August 2, 2012 You're saying it was ICAnd yetYou provide no proof.I can't provide proof at the moment because the other player involved is offline, and last time I talked to him he didn't want his identity revealed.If you're really set on finding out, check the last few pages of Kumu. If it wasn't blindingly obvious before, it will be now.- Vorex [BZPRPG PROFILES] Nikarra - Kaelynn - Ronan - Muir - Donal - Aerus - Montague - Kira - Koura - Learu - Alteora - Fuacht - Caana - Nessen - Merrill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Athmos Posted August 2, 2012 Share Posted August 2, 2012 This is pretty hysterical to read. MOR. WIP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadow pridak money gang Posted August 2, 2012 Share Posted August 2, 2012 If you're talking about a one sentence post where Illicia flushes her diary down the toilet, then you are now the proud owner of a Chekhov's Gun the size of a Predator drone.-Teezy ＳＡＹ ＩＴ ＯＮＥ ＭＯＲＥ ＴＩＭＥ ＴＥＬＬ ＭＥ ＷＨＡＴ ＩＳ ＯＮ ＹＯＵＲ ＭＩＮＤ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenLuke Posted August 2, 2012 Share Posted August 2, 2012 Mata Nui doesn't have indoor plumping, last I checked. BZPRPG Profiles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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