Xomeron Posted November 25, 2011 Author Posted November 25, 2011 Oh, I was looking for a "Weapons" field because I thought it was a ship mechanic. That being said, thag thag thaggity thag thagness.-Rover "A memo was sent to Astaria asking if it would at all be possible to make a flying goat.""The Astarians responded that making a goat fly would be trivial; making it land safely would be another matter entirely."
HeavyMetalSunshineSister Posted November 25, 2011 Posted November 25, 2011 OOC: No, the Eye of Fire is a specific weapon system. We will remember - Skies may fade and stars may wane; we won't forget And your light shines bright - yes so much brighter shine on We will remember - Until the skies will fall we won't forget We will remember We all shall follow doom
Xomeron Posted November 25, 2011 Author Posted November 25, 2011 IC:"Now, the general shape of our future military actions." Sienta began. "Are they to be offensive or defensive? I vote offensive. We won't win any war by hiding behind our borders; as soon as our fleets are strong enough to gain ground, we should strike." That being said, thag thag thaggity thag thagness.-Rover "A memo was sent to Astaria asking if it would at all be possible to make a flying goat.""The Astarians responded that making a goat fly would be trivial; making it land safely would be another matter entirely."
HeavyMetalSunshineSister Posted November 25, 2011 Posted November 25, 2011 IC(Conference): "Very rarely is anything so simple. We must be able to strike through the heart of any aggressors, yes - but we must also keep them from doing the same. I vote that we take both branches, and fortify our vulnerable systems so that a kilogram of the enemy's flesh and blood is extracted for every cubic centimeter of space taken should they attempt to attack, but also build our own fleets so that vengeance for such an attempt may be swift and certain." We will remember - Skies may fade and stars may wane; we won't forget And your light shines bright - yes so much brighter shine on We will remember - Until the skies will fall we won't forget We will remember We all shall follow doom
Necro Posted November 25, 2011 Posted November 25, 2011 IC: "We do have multiple fleets in our alliance, we could always assign different races to different roles rather than going all for one."
Alex Humva Posted November 25, 2011 Posted November 25, 2011 OOCThe following assume Tarshiar never mentioned the Imperium.IC [Location: 1-10. Identity: Tarshiar]Sivan, without so much as a word, wisely turned around and left, a bodyguard escorting him out. Tarshiar, watching the man leave, sighed and turned back around."As one of the first acts here, I'd like to suggest a fleet be organized between our three races." The man sat down. "They would be nearby for when the inevitable retaliatory attack." 1 1 2 3 5 8 13 21 34 55 89 "In short, my English Lit friend, living in a mental world of absolute rights and wrongs, may be imagining that because all theories are wrong, the earth may be thought spherical now, but cubical next century, and a hollow icosahedron the next, and a doughnut shape the one after." -Isaac Asimov, responding to a letter he had received saying that scientific certainty was false, The Relativity of Wrong
Xomeron Posted November 25, 2011 Author Posted November 25, 2011 IC:"Naturally, given they control a border, the Alizarin ought to be in charge of front line defense. Perhaps Diemawr designers could aid them with Starbase construction? You seem to be fond of them..." That being said, thag thag thaggity thag thagness.-Rover "A memo was sent to Astaria asking if it would at all be possible to make a flying goat.""The Astarians responded that making a goat fly would be trivial; making it land safely would be another matter entirely."
Wyrd Bid Ful Araed Posted November 25, 2011 Posted November 25, 2011 IC: "There may be problems in mounting an attack," the Alizarin said, tank speaking in one voice, "The foremost being that we have no idea of the true numbers of our enemy. We have shown you merely the ships that invaded us. It would be foolishness to assume they had not held some back as a defensive measure. And our star charts for that sector are outdated, based on our limited scouting and what the Natsirt told us. We would be moving blind, unable to co-ordinate strategic movements.""On the other hand," they continued, voice switching, "We know not all the races of that sector are in the alignment. There is a species called 'Leben' who did not appear to be part of the invasion from our observations on ship design. If we can get them on our side we would have much more detailed information on the other sector's layout, and a possible distraction to draw Natsirt ships away from our attempts at crossing over."
Toast of Awesomeness Posted November 25, 2011 Posted November 25, 2011 IC: We're currently designing a ship capable of recording data from a long distance as well as running silently. If it's successful, the Natsirt won't know we're there. Well, would you just look at that? I'm a piece of toast.
Wyrd Bid Ful Araed Posted November 25, 2011 Posted November 25, 2011 IC: "We're pretty sure the Natsirt use means other than noise to detect ships," the Alizarin pointed out, "That would be fairly useless in the vacuum of space."
Toast of Awesomeness Posted November 25, 2011 Posted November 25, 2011 My apologies, I miscommunicated. The ship emits no EM energy or radiation, would show up on radar as an asteroid, and has heat sinks in the hull to dispose of thermal heat. It cannot be detected by any means we have, but we'd be happy to test it against yours to improve the technology before utilizing it. Well, would you just look at that? I'm a piece of toast.
Alex Humva Posted November 25, 2011 Posted November 25, 2011 (edited) IC [Location: Citamgine. Identity: General]The IIA, having been discussing a stealth ship for some time and working around what would give ships away, had put the engineers into the final prototype stage. They needed a fast, light, unseen ship that could conduct surveillance.[General]Elsewhere in the Empire there was much celebration, not only for the overthrow of the empire but the fact that the two closest colonies had risen to become mighty forge worlds, capable of industrial production on par with the homeworld. This day was also marked with much decision making; realizing their industrial capacity just could not work a colonizer in and starbases, the decision was made; the mighty Destroyer class vessel Last Breath of the Enemy would be drydocked, it's crew put on shore leave until the time it could return to active service. During it's drydock it would be retrofitted to keep up with the fleet.Thus one colonizer began work over Citamgine, while the fleet underwent retrofitting, preparing for the attack that was sure to come.OOC1 Destroyer class drydocked until Dec. 2nd1 colonizer begun, ETA Dec. 2ndNew Lleh (1-2) and New Llaf (1-39) upgraded to Forge Worlds. Edited November 25, 2011 by Cartographer Alex Humva 1 1 2 3 5 8 13 21 34 55 89 "In short, my English Lit friend, living in a mental world of absolute rights and wrongs, may be imagining that because all theories are wrong, the earth may be thought spherical now, but cubical next century, and a hollow icosahedron the next, and a doughnut shape the one after." -Isaac Asimov, responding to a letter he had received saying that scientific certainty was false, The Relativity of Wrong
HeavyMetalSunshineSister Posted November 25, 2011 Posted November 25, 2011 IC(Conference): The General of the Armies spoke again, gesturing somewhat lazily as he did. The gestures didn't seem to serve any real purpose as far as communication went, and, in fact, they didn't - it was somewhere between a nervous habit and the Diemawr version of politeness."If we are to develop a stealth-ship, we must develop the systems to detect an identical ship whether it wants to be detected or not. There is, I think, nothing to say that our counterparts are not climbing the same branch as we are, with but superficial differences in the path taken. There are only so many ways to make a ship stealthy - whatever we think of to avoid detection, we must think of ways to combat." We will remember - Skies may fade and stars may wane; we won't forget And your light shines bright - yes so much brighter shine on We will remember - Until the skies will fall we won't forget We will remember We all shall follow doom
Kothra Posted November 25, 2011 Posted November 25, 2011 IC:Holt starbase and coloniser constructing over Czalath (1-8) and Kalaras (1-9) respectively, both to be completed 12月2日.
Alex Humva Posted November 25, 2011 Posted November 25, 2011 OOCSomething I'd like to point out is that a good ship could remain undetected regardless of how good your sensors are. Space is massive so there must be sensor sweeps; a simply waiting job of watching the scans, predicting their pattern, and moving through them accordingly. Unless there's randomized sweeps, but that has its own problems to counter the pros.Even with a good sensor net, if you do find the ship, depending on the state of it's engines and what sort of engines they're using, your sensor net could be completely trained on a ship and not realize it's a ship, depending on it's design and configuration. 1 1 2 3 5 8 13 21 34 55 89 "In short, my English Lit friend, living in a mental world of absolute rights and wrongs, may be imagining that because all theories are wrong, the earth may be thought spherical now, but cubical next century, and a hollow icosahedron the next, and a doughnut shape the one after." -Isaac Asimov, responding to a letter he had received saying that scientific certainty was false, The Relativity of Wrong
Xomeron Posted November 25, 2011 Author Posted November 25, 2011 IC:Sienta spoke up"The standard Syrrinx frigate, what we call the Changeling Class, is capable of running stealthily; it demonstrated this when it observed Tsui'Nau territory without them noticing." She paused. "Standard stealth protocols are simple; appear on the edge of the system, take data on the planets and such, and leave before the enemy can sense their presence. A Stealthship is so small, and space so vast, that detecting them is close to impossible." That being said, thag thag thaggity thag thagness.-Rover "A memo was sent to Astaria asking if it would at all be possible to make a flying goat.""The Astarians responded that making a goat fly would be trivial; making it land safely would be another matter entirely."
HeavyMetalSunshineSister Posted November 25, 2011 Posted November 25, 2011 IC(Conference): "Then measures must be taken to improve the probability of detection. Scattering sensor satellites would seem to be an important step, though, for obvious reasons, they would necessarily be spread thin. The important thing is to ensure that any ship close enough to inhabited worlds to get any good data is detected immediately.OOC: Looking at something from the edge of the solar system is unlikely to give you any good information, simply because of the range. Unless you want to hang out on the edge for a month just to confirm that a planet's inhabited, you'd have to come into the inner solar system. We will remember - Skies may fade and stars may wane; we won't forget And your light shines bright - yes so much brighter shine on We will remember - Until the skies will fall we won't forget We will remember We all shall follow doom
Xomeron Posted November 25, 2011 Author Posted November 25, 2011 (edited) IC:"Making such satellites and positioning their orbits would definitely be expensive..." Sienta trailed off.OOC: Should deep-space detection satellites have an Industry upkeep? I think so. Edited November 25, 2011 by King Of Shadows That being said, thag thag thaggity thag thagness.-Rover "A memo was sent to Astaria asking if it would at all be possible to make a flying goat.""The Astarians responded that making a goat fly would be trivial; making it land safely would be another matter entirely."
HeavyMetalSunshineSister Posted November 25, 2011 Posted November 25, 2011 OOC: Well, they're unlikely to be manned - in point of fact, if your spy satellites are manned, you're stupid - and given the relative cheapness of producing a satellite now - all telecom corporations have fistfuls of the things - the only noticeable cost would be that of putting the satellites in position. We will remember - Skies may fade and stars may wane; we won't forget And your light shines bright - yes so much brighter shine on We will remember - Until the skies will fall we won't forget We will remember We all shall follow doom
Kothra Posted November 25, 2011 Posted November 25, 2011 OOC: I don't see any reason why it would cost anything to upkeep tiny probes.They're far, far cheaper than any starship, so it'd be easier to replace them than waste fuel to go and repair them. And stuff.
Xomeron Posted November 25, 2011 Author Posted November 25, 2011 Putting them in position and keeping them there, it takes manpower to keep orbits intact. Recharging/replacing their batteries(can't use solar power in deep space) and wear and tear on the masers or radios or whatnot they use to transmit their findings. That being said, thag thag thaggity thag thagness.-Rover "A memo was sent to Astaria asking if it would at all be possible to make a flying goat.""The Astarians responded that making a goat fly would be trivial; making it land safely would be another matter entirely."
Alex Humva Posted November 25, 2011 Posted November 25, 2011 OOCYeah, but a good engineer can put a deep space probe out and keep it there for at least a year if they know what they're doing. 1 1 2 3 5 8 13 21 34 55 89 "In short, my English Lit friend, living in a mental world of absolute rights and wrongs, may be imagining that because all theories are wrong, the earth may be thought spherical now, but cubical next century, and a hollow icosahedron the next, and a doughnut shape the one after." -Isaac Asimov, responding to a letter he had received saying that scientific certainty was false, The Relativity of Wrong
Kothra Posted November 25, 2011 Posted November 25, 2011 The whole unit is inexpensive and is easily replacable once it becomes useless.
Xomeron Posted November 25, 2011 Author Posted November 25, 2011 All right; it takes a system three days to establish the satellite network, and this is treated as building normally, but once established the thing has negligible upkeep. That being said, thag thag thaggity thag thagness.-Rover "A memo was sent to Astaria asking if it would at all be possible to make a flying goat.""The Astarians responded that making a goat fly would be trivial; making it land safely would be another matter entirely."
HeavyMetalSunshineSister Posted November 25, 2011 Posted November 25, 2011 OOC: Aff. Replacements would occur one-at-a-time, and would have very little associated cost. We will remember - Skies may fade and stars may wane; we won't forget And your light shines bright - yes so much brighter shine on We will remember - Until the skies will fall we won't forget We will remember We all shall follow doom
Wyrd Bid Ful Araed Posted November 25, 2011 Posted November 25, 2011 OOC: I believe satellites in Earth's orbit can keep going for around ten years or so with no need for maintenance, so with the future-space-tech our guys have we might be able to extend that to deep-space satellites as wellIC: "If you have stealthships now, might you be able to bypass the Natsirt blockade?" the Alizarin questioned the Syrrinx, "We need more detail on the environs and peoples beyond the Passage, and you might be able to provide it."At the very least a stealthship would provide deniability. The Alizarin could always claim they had no idea a ship was going through their space
Xomeron Posted November 25, 2011 Author Posted November 25, 2011 IC:"Possibly. We'd want some time to train our crews for more stealth. So far we only have one experienced crew." That being said, thag thag thaggity thag thagness.-Rover "A memo was sent to Astaria asking if it would at all be possible to make a flying goat.""The Astarians responded that making a goat fly would be trivial; making it land safely would be another matter entirely."
Kothra Posted November 25, 2011 Posted November 25, 2011 OOC: So the sensor/probe system costs no IP and only takes the build spot?
Xomeron Posted November 25, 2011 Author Posted November 25, 2011 (edited) OOC: PreciselyIC:"See, the only crew that has live stealth experience is the crew of the Changeling-1, the craft I took to see the Tsui'Nau and Natiru, and barely that. Perhaps if we could set up some exercises among us, give our crews experience in examining alien systems."OOC: Note; since FTL transmitters are delicate, if you want to have Ansibles on your Satellite Detection Network, that will be 1 IP per detection networks. Edited November 25, 2011 by King Of Shadows That being said, thag thag thaggity thag thagness.-Rover "A memo was sent to Astaria asking if it would at all be possible to make a flying goat.""The Astarians responded that making a goat fly would be trivial; making it land safely would be another matter entirely."
HeavyMetalSunshineSister Posted November 25, 2011 Posted November 25, 2011 IC(Conference): "For the sake of the integrity of this defensive pact, we insist that the technology required for your stealth-ships is shared between all those present at this conference."The diplomats were getting rather bored, mainly because the General was pretty much doing their jobs for them. We will remember - Skies may fade and stars may wane; we won't forget And your light shines bright - yes so much brighter shine on We will remember - Until the skies will fall we won't forget We will remember We all shall follow doom
Xomeron Posted November 25, 2011 Author Posted November 25, 2011 (edited) IC:"It's simple stuff; radar absorbant panels and non-reflective geometry. Four hundred year old technology. However, there are certain technologies that we are not willing to share or sell."New Mechanic: System UpgradesSatellite Detection NetSatellites are scattered around the system, especially in the outer edges, increasing the chances of reaction time. Uses electromagnetic sensors and electromagnetic transmitters; it increases the chance of detection and boosts the reaction time for the forces, though the transmission is still limited by Speed Of Light.Build Time: 3 DaysIndustrial Upkeep: 0Satellite Detection Net-Ansible EquippedIdentical to a Satellite Detection net, but the satellites are equipped with Ansibles, reducing transmission time. However, Ansibles are delicate, and require constant maintenance.Build time: 3 DaysIndustrial Upkeep: 1I'm trying to think of other things to fit with this system; I don't want Dyson Spheres or Ringworlds. Edited November 25, 2011 by King Of Shadows That being said, thag thag thaggity thag thagness.-Rover "A memo was sent to Astaria asking if it would at all be possible to make a flying goat.""The Astarians responded that making a goat fly would be trivial; making it land safely would be another matter entirely."
HeavyMetalSunshineSister Posted November 25, 2011 Posted November 25, 2011 IC(Conference): "Given the way that you have spoken of your stealth-ships, it is not unreasonable to assume that it is these 'certain technologies' that are critical to the function of the design. A basic overview of what these technologies do, even if you are not willing to share them, does not seem an unreasonable thing to ask for." We will remember - Skies may fade and stars may wane; we won't forget And your light shines bright - yes so much brighter shine on We will remember - Until the skies will fall we won't forget We will remember We all shall follow doom
Xomeron Posted November 25, 2011 Author Posted November 25, 2011 IC:"I'm no starship engineer, but I can give you a rough overview; Xenologers need to know everything." Sienta said. "The core of the ship is a fission-fusion drive; uranium is forced to reach critical mass, generating enough heat and pressure to induce hydrogen fusion which allows the ship to move; this is the engine core of every Syrrinx ship. A Changeling uses a smaller than regular engine; it's slower, but it's harder to detect. Like I said, EM absorbent panels and non-reflective geometry." Sienta glanced at her assistant. "Anything else?""Nothing related to stealth technology; that's the essence of it." That being said, thag thag thaggity thag thagness.-Rover "A memo was sent to Astaria asking if it would at all be possible to make a flying goat.""The Astarians responded that making a goat fly would be trivial; making it land safely would be another matter entirely."
HeavyMetalSunshineSister Posted November 25, 2011 Posted November 25, 2011 OOC: Ansible fraggisfiggidy. What's the transmission time from an inner-solar system satellite net to a planet without your borrowed pedantry*?*HPG transmitters are better anyway. We will remember - Skies may fade and stars may wane; we won't forget And your light shines bright - yes so much brighter shine on We will remember - Until the skies will fall we won't forget We will remember We all shall follow doom
Akaku: Master of Flight Posted November 25, 2011 Posted November 25, 2011 OOC: Started Construction on:1 121-L Assault-CarrierIC: 1-1A single Thernian Frigate, all weapons capped, covered, or folded in, departed from orbit over the Natsirt homeworld and actiavted its warp drive.IC: 2-5The ship exited the IL, arriving silently on the rim of the system that was the Alizarin homeworld.Had they wanted to, the frigate couldve remained in this location unnoticed, for whatever intention.but it didnt."This is Voxxik Zettan, Thernian diplomat and Captain of the 046-S Light Frigate 05," a message towards the Alizarin homeworld was sent; "We would like to land, and discuss matters at hand with your species in person, while we all still can, at peace. Mostly not on behalf of our alliance with the Natsirt and Kalarii, but more or less simply on terms with our two species alone."--Akaku: Master of Flight "I've brushed with death so often I should start giving him high-fives while I pass." Recent Work: Return to Forum (2024) Friend's works: Terrible Comics (2016) | The Guardians of Gevra Nui (2017) | Reborn (2016) Older Work: The Legends of Taladi Nui (2017)
Wyrd Bid Ful Araed Posted November 25, 2011 Posted November 25, 2011 IC(2-5): There was some discussion when the ship made contact. It had come from the other side, they weren't sure whether to trust it. Eventually they decided to let the craft land.A docking port was sent to the planet's surface, seals opening as water drained out, providing a place for the Thernian ship to land."We are sending you co-ordinates of a place you can descend to. Are you capable of aquatic submersion?"
Veeci Posted November 25, 2011 Posted November 25, 2011 (edited) Ooc: Why does life have to be so full I don't have time to write a few paragraphs? I mean really, a five page research paper on colonial quilting... Sigh...(@Power) Ic (1-40): The single, organic scout ship fell in line with the mass of Alizarin ships leaving 1-40, en-route back to their home sector. This exodus was apparently the result of some... intriguing negotiations by an invasion force of TAP members, headed by the Natsirt. The Leben delegates learned that the Sector One aliens had, despite having formed a peace treaty, marched right up to the Alizarin's homeworld, declaring them to forfeit all of their colonies with the threat of unbridled war. This observation would certainly be made known to the government officials considering joining the Trilateral Alliance. Sure, the Leben would probably betray a race they had a deal with as well if given the appropriate reasons, but they would be subtly, nothing like the obviously boisterous Natsirt.As they reached 2-5 several hours later, the Forschung vessel curved off trajectory of the alien fleet and navigated towards the ocean planet they had been told to approach, supposably the homeworld of the Alizarin. A few moments later a second scout ship warped into the system and joined the other."This is High-Minister Viisas Laki. May we be guided to a suitable landing location?"Ooc: Tinte Carrier complete.Research begun on different ship designs.Edit: Epic grammar fail. *facepalm* Edited November 25, 2011 by Veeci Imagine, a room, awash in gasoline. And there are two implacable enemies in that room. One of them has nine-thousand matches. The other has seven-thousand matches. Each of them is concerned about who's ahead, who's stronger. - Carl Sagan Formerly Vorox Chief.
Wyrd Bid Ful Araed Posted November 25, 2011 Posted November 25, 2011 OOC: My my, I am popularIC(2-5, Leben): "Co-ordinates have been beamed to your ship. Follow them to a safe docking position. As with our previous meeting, you will need to be prepared for aquatic environments."
Akaku: Master of Flight Posted November 25, 2011 Posted November 25, 2011 (edited) IC: 2-5"Indeed, our ship is capable of submersion. We can also use our space gear for underwater enviorments, as well."The ship followed the coordinates as it entered the atmosphere, touching down on the port.Voxxik took note of another ship in the system, and he reconized the design. A leben craft? what are they doing here?--Akaku: Master of Flight Edited November 25, 2011 by Akaku: Master of Flight "I've brushed with death so often I should start giving him high-fives while I pass." Recent Work: Return to Forum (2024) Friend's works: Terrible Comics (2016) | The Guardians of Gevra Nui (2017) | Reborn (2016) Older Work: The Legends of Taladi Nui (2017)
Wyrd Bid Ful Araed Posted November 26, 2011 Posted November 26, 2011 IC(2-5): The port closed up over the Thernian ship as it began to descend, water steadily flooding in."You're being taken to the city of Han," they were told, "You will be greeted there."
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