Boidoh Posted December 14, 2014 Share Posted December 14, 2014 (edited) On the Toa Mangai of Ice Kanohi poll we had two fourth places... Tiebreaker time... And to the anti-canonization crowd, this one doesn't have a "I Don't wanna know" option, because it's a tiebreaker, not a new poll. Just a continuation on another topic... EDIT: Turns out there was one person who had their vote invalidated and I forgot to add the +1 for their votes.. Kadin is now an option I'll be voting for the Kaukau because I think that it would be cool to have a Toa of Ice swimming in cold waters. Edited December 15, 2014 by Black Six 4 Quote Add me on 3DS: 0516-7750-0068Add me on Wii U: Boidoh "I am Lloyd Garmadon, son of Lord Garmadon." - Lloyd, Episode 4: Never Trust a Snake"I am Lloyd Garmadon, son of Lord Garmadon." - Lloyd, Episode 44: Corridor of EldersLike, Comment, And Subscribe for Nintendo Content - NinBoidoh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rider Of Spiders Posted December 14, 2014 Share Posted December 14, 2014 Kadin. The flying warrior seems ideal to me. Quote "Onua gazes upon the Earth and sees riches. It is our Duty to dig, and our Destiny to find them" - Aiyetoro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMSOG Posted December 14, 2014 Share Posted December 14, 2014 Kaukau for two reasons 1: From a story perspective, a toa of ice being able to effectivly swim in the material he has the power to freeze sounds like a fairly benificial skill2: From a fan perspective: He will be MOCable XD Quote Hi. If you remember me from when I was most active on BZP, from 2009-2011... I know I was cringy. But please keep in mind I was literally 12. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unknown456 Posted December 14, 2014 Share Posted December 14, 2014 Can't decide between Kadin and Mask of Adaption... I'll wait a little and see what happens... Quote Forever remember the Podu R.I.P. Hahli, Lesovikk, and Ehlek. Died of Green Plastic Syndrome. Pridaddy will always be with us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ektris Posted December 14, 2014 Share Posted December 14, 2014 My personal choice would be to completely discard the Mask of Conjuring and take two of these, but since that's not going to happen... Kaukau I suppose. I only hope regardless of the outcome of this one, you present to Greg the top results with numbers. Include a breakdown of this runoff too. Again, informed decisions and all. ~|ET|~ 12 Quote E-T... Phone home. "He walks among us, but he is not one of us." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irrie Posted December 14, 2014 Share Posted December 14, 2014 Kaukau...because Kaukau.Plus, it would be really awesome if he could freeze himself in ice and then do a surprise attack. 2 Quote bZpOwEr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katuko Posted December 14, 2014 Share Posted December 14, 2014 I only hope regardless of the outcome of this one, you present to Greg the top results with numbers. Include a breakdown of this runoff too. Again, informed decisions and all. I agree very, very much with this. The only thing that separates anything in the previous poll is maybe 2 votes total. Why are you posting a new poll so quickly, by the way? I get that you're excited and all, but I would like to ask you to take it slow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boidoh Posted December 14, 2014 Author Share Posted December 14, 2014 This ISN'T a new one. It is a tiebreaker... 2 Quote Add me on 3DS: 0516-7750-0068Add me on Wii U: Boidoh "I am Lloyd Garmadon, son of Lord Garmadon." - Lloyd, Episode 4: Never Trust a Snake"I am Lloyd Garmadon, son of Lord Garmadon." - Lloyd, Episode 44: Corridor of EldersLike, Comment, And Subscribe for Nintendo Content - NinBoidoh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorek Posted December 14, 2014 Share Posted December 14, 2014 My personal choice would be to completely discard the Mask of Conjuring and take two of these, but since that's not going to happen... Kaukau I suppose. I only hope regardless of the outcome of this one, you present to Greg the top results with numbers. Include a breakdown of this runoff too. Again, informed decisions and all. ~|ET|~Alllll of this. 7 Quote BS01's Ambassador (Like us, Follow us) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regitnui Posted December 14, 2014 Share Posted December 14, 2014 I say Kadin, because being able to attack the Dragon from the air is a sound tactic. Quote Elemental Rahi in Gen2, anyone? A write-up for an initial video for a G2 plot I really wish everyone would stop trying to play join the dots with Gen 1 and Gen 2 though,it seems there's a couple new threads everyday and often they're duplicates of already existing conversations! Or simply parallel them with a slightly new 'twist'! Gen 2 is NEW, it is NOT Gen 1 and it is NOT a continuation. Outside of the characters we already have I personally don't want to see ANY old characters return. I think it will cheapen the whole experience to those of us familiar with the original line... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSkeletonMan939 Posted December 14, 2014 Share Posted December 14, 2014 (edited) I went with Kadin, because then it'd be easier for him to make ice slides like Iceman. Edited December 14, 2014 by TheSkeletonMan939 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toa Smoke Monster Posted December 14, 2014 Share Posted December 14, 2014 I say Kadin, because being able to attack the Dragon from the air is a sound tactic. I went with Kadin, because then it'd be easier for him to make ice slides like Iceman.These are the two reasons why the Kadin got my vote. Quote Everyone is one choice away from being the bad guy in another person's story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boidoh Posted December 14, 2014 Author Share Posted December 14, 2014 Kadin is making a serious comeback... Adaption i sbeing left in the dust. Quote Add me on 3DS: 0516-7750-0068Add me on Wii U: Boidoh "I am Lloyd Garmadon, son of Lord Garmadon." - Lloyd, Episode 4: Never Trust a Snake"I am Lloyd Garmadon, son of Lord Garmadon." - Lloyd, Episode 44: Corridor of EldersLike, Comment, And Subscribe for Nintendo Content - NinBoidoh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor Makuta Posted December 14, 2014 Share Posted December 14, 2014 Kaukau, gives MOCers a use for the 2001 white version. 1 Quote Tahu; Hau (x) Pakari (x) Kakama (x) Miru (x) Akaku (x) Kaukau (x). Lewa; Hau (x) Pakari (x) Kakama (x) Miru (x) Akaku (x) Kaukau (x). Onua; Hau (x) Pakari (x) Kakama (x) Miru (x) Akaku (x) Kaukau (x). Kopaka; Hau (x) Pakari (x) Kakama (x) Miru (x) Akaku (x) Kaukau (x). Pohatu; Hau (x) Pakari (x) Kakama (x) Miru (x) Akaku (x) Kaukau (x). Gali; Hau (x) Pakari (x) Kakama (x) Miru (x) Akaku (x) Kaukau (x). Vakama; Huna (x) Ruru (x) Komau (x) Mahiki (x) Matatu (x) Rau (x). Matau; Huna (x) Ruru (x) Komau (x) Mahiki (x) Matatu (x) Rau (x). Whenua; Huna (x) Ruru (x) Komau (x) Mahiki (x) Matatu (x) Rau (x). Nuju; Huna (x) Ruru (x) Komau (x) Mahiki (x) Matatu (x) Rau (x). Onewa; Huna (x) Ruru (x) Komau (x) Mahiki (x) Matatu (x) Rau (x). Nokama; Huna (x) Ruru (x) Komau (x) Mahiki (x) Matatu (x) Rau (x). Matoran; Hau (x) Pakari (x) Kakama (x) Miru (x) Akaku (x) Huna (x) Rahi; Infected Hau (x) Huna (x) Kakama (x) Komau (x) Pakari (x) Ruru ()Promotional Kanohi - Vahi (x) Chrome Hau (x) Ruru (x) TNGM (x) Copper Huna (x) Copper Komau () An (x) means I have, a () means I dont. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALVIS Posted December 14, 2014 Share Posted December 14, 2014 Kadin is making a serious comeback... Adaption i sbeing left in the dust. Well, that's only to be expected. The Kadin and the Kaukau have the advantages of being featured in sets and in story. People know about them, whereas most people have never heard of the "Mask of Adaptation" and would have to look it up on BS01. Plus, they are more easily represented in MOCs and fan art, making them more amenable to fans who have an interest in such things. I'm not voting, because the Toa's Kanohi really don't matter that much to me. If I were going to vote, though, it would definitely be for one of those two. (Probably the Kadin, since it has fewer bearers than the Kaukau, and I'd prefer to see a less prominent mask used.) Quote "You are not entitled to your opinion. You are entitled to your informed opinion. No one is entitled to be ignorant." -- Harlan Ellison Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archon~ Posted December 14, 2014 Share Posted December 14, 2014 I think Kadin would be way more useful overall than a Kaukau, especially against a flying forebreathing dragon. What, you're gonna play in the puddles while this thing is flying and destroying everything? Please. Plus, black is a secondary color of ice anyway, so MOCers could utilize Nuparu's Kadin anyway. 2 Quote Archon *** "For one to truly feel alive, the person must kill oneself a little bit each and every day." Check out my MOC, one of the new generation of Toa on Spherus Magna! ***Toa Kyraan*** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boidoh Posted December 14, 2014 Author Share Posted December 14, 2014 (edited) Black is a secondary color to ice? No...hiteuPrimary: WhiteSecondary: Light gray, sand blue, dark greye, dark greylue, dark grey Edited December 14, 2014 by Boidoh Quote Add me on 3DS: 0516-7750-0068Add me on Wii U: Boidoh "I am Lloyd Garmadon, son of Lord Garmadon." - Lloyd, Episode 4: Never Trust a Snake"I am Lloyd Garmadon, son of Lord Garmadon." - Lloyd, Episode 44: Corridor of EldersLike, Comment, And Subscribe for Nintendo Content - NinBoidoh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archon~ Posted December 14, 2014 Share Posted December 14, 2014 http://biosector01.com/wiki/index.php/Ko-Matoran Did I just blow your mind or what? 1 Quote Archon *** "For one to truly feel alive, the person must kill oneself a little bit each and every day." Check out my MOC, one of the new generation of Toa on Spherus Magna! ***Toa Kyraan*** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boidoh Posted December 14, 2014 Author Share Posted December 14, 2014 It doesn't say that on the ice page...Primary: WhiteSecondary: Light gray, sand blue, dark grey Quote Add me on 3DS: 0516-7750-0068Add me on Wii U: Boidoh "I am Lloyd Garmadon, son of Lord Garmadon." - Lloyd, Episode 4: Never Trust a Snake"I am Lloyd Garmadon, son of Lord Garmadon." - Lloyd, Episode 44: Corridor of EldersLike, Comment, And Subscribe for Nintendo Content - NinBoidoh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irrie Posted December 14, 2014 Share Posted December 14, 2014 It would be nice to see some more ice creatures with some black on them. After just getting Talvi and Pakastaa, it would be really cool to see that in a Toa. But, I'm going to stick with a Kaukau, because of the entire 'surprise attack' thing. BTW, were the Mangai created to stop the Dark Hunters or to fight the Kanohi Dragon? If it was the latter, then my reasoning is null I guess. Quote bZpOwEr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALVIS Posted December 14, 2014 Share Posted December 14, 2014 It doesn't say that on the ice page...Primary: WhiteSecondary: Light gray, sand blue, dark grey Boidoh, BS01 does not always have entirely accurate information. As an editor yourself, you should know that. We have seen Ko-Matoran with colors of white and black. A logical conclusion is that black is an acceptable secondary color for Ice-affiliated beings. In fact, I will go and add black to that list of secondary colors right now. 6 Quote "You are not entitled to your opinion. You are entitled to your informed opinion. No one is entitled to be ignorant." -- Harlan Ellison Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonesiii Posted December 14, 2014 Share Posted December 14, 2014 I voted Kaukau for reasons in the previous topic (minus the part I mixed up about the Kanohi Dragon being underwater, although I wonder if this one Toa might have been periodically coming to keep it frozen before the team formed). Quote The Destiny of Bionicle (chronological retelling of Bionicle original series, 9 PDFs of 10 chapters each on Google Drive): Part 1 - Warring with Fate | Part 2 - Year of Change | Part 3 - The Exploration Trap | Part 4 - Rise of the Warlords | Part 5 - A Busy Matoran | Part 6 - The Dark Time | Part 7 - Proving Grounds | Part 8 - A Rude Awakening | Part 9 - The Battle of Giants My Bionicle Fanfiction (Google Drive folder, eventually planned to have PDFs of all of it) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boidoh Posted December 14, 2014 Author Share Posted December 14, 2014 How long should this tiebreaker poll be left open? Quote Add me on 3DS: 0516-7750-0068Add me on Wii U: Boidoh "I am Lloyd Garmadon, son of Lord Garmadon." - Lloyd, Episode 4: Never Trust a Snake"I am Lloyd Garmadon, son of Lord Garmadon." - Lloyd, Episode 44: Corridor of EldersLike, Comment, And Subscribe for Nintendo Content - NinBoidoh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeb Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 (edited) How long should this tiebreaker poll be left open?I would guess until it seems like everyone that wants to vote has voted. Edited December 15, 2014 by SuperGeniusCreator Quote The artist formerly known as ŜﮞρЄЯ־GЄNіﮞŜ־CЯЄ▲Ŧ۞Я BBC#69 Entry: Roodaka - Master of Manipulation BFTGM entries: Zigben · Ventox · Deflecto “Hail Denmark.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergei Rahkmaninoff Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 The Kanohi Dragon was in Ta-Metru, right? Not much water there, Kadin makes more sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unknown456 Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 (edited) I decided to go with Mask of Adaption because, with a Toa of Ice in Ta-Metru, fighting a fire breathing dragon, things might start getting a little hot for an Ice Toa, and the mask may help with that. Although, a flying Toa of Ice would be cool too. And, actually, I like bonesiii's idea for why the Toa would wear a Kaukau. It adds an extra, interesting layer to the character (the grizzled veteran). So, in summary, I guess I'm saying I'd be fine with any of these Edited December 15, 2014 by unknown456 Quote Forever remember the Podu R.I.P. Hahli, Lesovikk, and Ehlek. Died of Green Plastic Syndrome. Pridaddy will always be with us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonesiii Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 The Kanohi Dragon was in Ta-Metru, right? Not much water there, Kadin makes more sense.The team members wouldn't necessarily be chosen for their mask powers fitting that specific setting. It could be more realistic if they don't all fit it perfectly. But ice melting in Ta-Metru actually does make some sense for a Kaukau just from the setting. Quote The Destiny of Bionicle (chronological retelling of Bionicle original series, 9 PDFs of 10 chapters each on Google Drive): Part 1 - Warring with Fate | Part 2 - Year of Change | Part 3 - The Exploration Trap | Part 4 - Rise of the Warlords | Part 5 - A Busy Matoran | Part 6 - The Dark Time | Part 7 - Proving Grounds | Part 8 - A Rude Awakening | Part 9 - The Battle of Giants My Bionicle Fanfiction (Google Drive folder, eventually planned to have PDFs of all of it) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nidhiki of the Shadows Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 Personally really like the Kadin. It'd be awesome to see a Toa fly through the air shooting ice bolts. Plus, aerial attacks have got to be pretty handy against a massive dragon. -NotS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeb Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 I voted for the Kaukau because, although the existing Black Kadin mask piece in existence is in the canon Ice colors, the transparent clear Kaukau looks cooler to me. Quote The artist formerly known as ŜﮞρЄЯ־GЄNіﮞŜ־CЯЄ▲Ŧ۞Я BBC#69 Entry: Roodaka - Master of Manipulation BFTGM entries: Zigben · Ventox · Deflecto “Hail Denmark.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prime Axiom Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 Cow cow, a fitting mask for ice. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N.S.M.8 Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 I went with the Kaukau, because a Kadin isn't the only way for a Toa to fly. Lihkan (who was on the same team), could fly with his weapons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archon~ Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 How long should this tiebreaker poll be left open?10 day to 2weeks? I think thats what I sugested in the guidelines... Not set in stone of course, but more of a suggestion to leach out as many votes as possible from the community. 1 Quote Archon *** "For one to truly feel alive, the person must kill oneself a little bit each and every day." Check out my MOC, one of the new generation of Toa on Spherus Magna! ***Toa Kyraan*** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iblis Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 more of a suggestion to leach out as many votes as possible from the community. Considering that "Which Toa Mangai wore the Kakama?" looks like it was finished with 50~ votes, & the others seemed to have around 100~ we're either almost there or half-way there (& it was 9 votes ahead,) Quote ~ Sophistry: A way to be antidisuncorrect. ~ In a decade you might convince maybe a small tribe of people. In a decade you might also conquer one million km2 of land, & in over a thousand years you might have over a billion followers. I like building things. Please don't break the big ones. & evidential philosophies that dare to extrapolate beyond an individual's direct experience aren't easily built. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boidoh Posted December 15, 2014 Author Share Posted December 15, 2014 more of a suggestion to leach out as many votes as possible from the community. Considering that "Which Toa Mangai wore the Kakama?" looks like it was finished with 50~ votes, & the others seemed to have around 100~ we're either almost there or half-way there (& it was 9 votes ahead,) You know, technically, it was open for a week, because my post to Greg still isn't approved.... Quote Add me on 3DS: 0516-7750-0068Add me on Wii U: Boidoh "I am Lloyd Garmadon, son of Lord Garmadon." - Lloyd, Episode 4: Never Trust a Snake"I am Lloyd Garmadon, son of Lord Garmadon." - Lloyd, Episode 44: Corridor of EldersLike, Comment, And Subscribe for Nintendo Content - NinBoidoh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iblis Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 You know, technically, it was open for a week, because my post to Greg still isn't approved.... Ah right... (So I guess 100~ votes is the unofficial benchmark of sorts not 50, or at least potentially that if that gets more votes... but the 'actual' benchmark is done on time period... so yeah...)([{Even still, 53 votes isn't much, so I guess one week isn't enough for the greater community to know &/or care enough about this to add their vote...}]) Quote ~ Sophistry: A way to be antidisuncorrect. ~ In a decade you might convince maybe a small tribe of people. In a decade you might also conquer one million km2 of land, & in over a thousand years you might have over a billion followers. I like building things. Please don't break the big ones. & evidential philosophies that dare to extrapolate beyond an individual's direct experience aren't easily built. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boidoh Posted December 15, 2014 Author Share Posted December 15, 2014 I blame the poll reset. Some people probably never even knew it had reset. 2 Quote Add me on 3DS: 0516-7750-0068Add me on Wii U: Boidoh "I am Lloyd Garmadon, son of Lord Garmadon." - Lloyd, Episode 4: Never Trust a Snake"I am Lloyd Garmadon, son of Lord Garmadon." - Lloyd, Episode 44: Corridor of EldersLike, Comment, And Subscribe for Nintendo Content - NinBoidoh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abstractAgamid Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 It doesn't say that on the ice page...Primary: WhiteSecondary: Light gray, sand blue, dark grey Boidoh, BS01 does not always have entirely accurate information. As an editor yourself, you should know that. We have seen Ko-Matoran with colors of white and black. A logical conclusion is that black is an acceptable secondary color for Ice-affiliated beings. In fact, I will go and add black to that list of secondary colors right now. Are you sure that wasn't dark gray? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regitnui Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 If it was, it was only a few angstroms shy of being true black. 1 Quote Elemental Rahi in Gen2, anyone? A write-up for an initial video for a G2 plot I really wish everyone would stop trying to play join the dots with Gen 1 and Gen 2 though,it seems there's a couple new threads everyday and often they're duplicates of already existing conversations! Or simply parallel them with a slightly new 'twist'! Gen 2 is NEW, it is NOT Gen 1 and it is NOT a continuation. Outside of the characters we already have I personally don't want to see ANY old characters return. I think it will cheapen the whole experience to those of us familiar with the original line... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALVIS Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 It doesn't say that on the ice page...Primary: WhiteSecondary: Light gray, sand blue, dark grey Boidoh, BS01 does not always have entirely accurate information. As an editor yourself, you should know that. We have seen Ko-Matoran with colors of white and black. A logical conclusion is that black is an acceptable secondary color for Ice-affiliated beings. In fact, I will go and add black to that list of secondary colors right now. Are you sure that wasn't dark gray? This is really not worth debating. If a MOC artist wants to build a Toa of Ice using white and black pieces, is anybody going to bother stopping them? Quote "You are not entitled to your opinion. You are entitled to your informed opinion. No one is entitled to be ignorant." -- Harlan Ellison Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorek Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 (edited) The colors issue is always ridiculous anyway because basically any Toa can be any color for reasons. Heck, that was a canonization squibble of its own back in the day, when people kept getting Greg to approve their own headcanon color schemes for various Matoran (we'll ignore that I may or may not have done that for Ba-Matoran :U). I think the LMB has seen its share of that, too. That said... I've only ever seen dark grey on Ko-Matoran, and not black, so I'm not sure where people ARE getting black from as Ice's secondary color. Edited December 15, 2014 by Dorek 2 Quote BS01's Ambassador (Like us, Follow us) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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