crazykal Posted December 10, 2011 Share Posted December 10, 2011 (edited) What do you think about the viscous manas crab being related to the docile ussal. If you are not aware of this read the entry on the manas in Rahi Beasts sorry for not getting that right originally. ever since Biosector01 stopped working i have been pretty helpless Edited December 10, 2011 by crazykal Quote 99% of bzpower users dislike rap or hip hop. If your that 1% that think its pretty decent post this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ektris Posted December 10, 2011 Share Posted December 10, 2011 (edited) Failure to cite your own source and the fact that I can't find mention of it on any resources sites and don't recall it ever being said before leads me to believe you're telling a pretty straightforward lie. ;)But even so, they're both crabs. Why should we be surprised that there's a possibility of this? It doesn't really provide for any good discussion.~|ET|~ Edited December 10, 2011 by Electric Turahk Quote E-T... Phone home. "He walks among us, but he is not one of us." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a goose Posted December 10, 2011 Share Posted December 10, 2011 What do you think about the viscous manas crab being related to the docile ussal. If you are not aware of this ask someone which bionicle legend its in.They're both Rahi, and they're both crabs. However, I doubt they're related. If they were, you could use the same theory to say Hanna Crabs were also related to them.And are you asking a question or making a statement? Quote [BZPRPG PROFILES] Nikarra - Kaelynn - Ronan - Muir - Donal - Aerus - Montague - Kira - Koura - Learu - Alteora - Fuacht - Caana - Nessen - Merrill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toa Zaz Posted December 10, 2011 Share Posted December 10, 2011 Don't freak out guys, Whenua speculated this in Bionicle: Rahi Beasts. This may have also been in a Bionicle: Adventures book that I haven't read, I don't know.It does seem kind of strange, considering the vast difference between them. Quote Thank you, BZPower staff. In the past, I wish I showed more appreciation for all that you do. From one Bionicle fan to another, thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazykal Posted December 10, 2011 Author Share Posted December 10, 2011 thank you toa zaz. sorry rahi beasts not bionicle legends. Quote 99% of bzpower users dislike rap or hip hop. If your that 1% that think its pretty decent post this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Field Marshal Rakmon Posted December 10, 2011 Share Posted December 10, 2011 (edited) All I'm saying, is that I'd love it if it turns out this is a secret plot twist that Ussal Crabs are actually the juvenile form of Manas. Eventually, in the next serial chapter, we are going to learn Pewku metamorphized into a Manas and went on a killing spree. he is the one who's been killing all these ancient, powerful beings.[/Troll] Edited December 10, 2011 by Field Marshal RMN Quote Signature Guidelines: Signature may not exceed the 800x300 limit. For more reference use the box located in your signature editor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Makuta_of_Oz Posted December 10, 2011 Share Posted December 10, 2011 It's like asking about the relations between the Fikou and the Visorak. Or the Nui-Jaga and the Kofo-Jaga. They're both the same kind of animal. Quote If you use correct grammar in your posts (or try hard to), place this in your signature. Join Myst's campaign for correct grammar usage on BZPower! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dralcax Posted December 10, 2011 Share Posted December 10, 2011 It's like asking about the relations between the Fikou and the Visorak. Or the Nui-Jaga and the Kofo-Jaga. They're both the same kind of animal.I think you mean the Silver Chute Spider, not the Fikou. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taipu1 Posted December 10, 2011 Share Posted December 10, 2011 It's like asking about the relations between the Fikou and the Visorak. Or the Nui-Jaga and the Kofo-Jaga. They're both the same kind of animal.I think you mean the Silver Chute Spider, not the Fikou.That too, I think Makuta of Oz was making the point that two animals can be related but be different. Taking a real life example, common house cats and lions are related. But which one has a reputation for being dangerous? Quote - Taipu1.HighFly MatoranShowdownBZPRPG ProfilesHave you seen my Blog? I understand if you haven't Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishers64 Posted December 10, 2011 Share Posted December 10, 2011 Makuta made all Rahi beasts, so they might have used the same blueprint for both the Manas and the Ussal. Besides, other than that, all MU inhabitants cannot be related like earth species anyway, due to their method of reproduction, which is not like ours. Quote Hero Factory RPG | Bionicle Mafia XXIX: Storyline & Theories Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Makuta Matata Posted December 11, 2011 Share Posted December 11, 2011 Well, they have to be related somehow; they're both Crabs.... Quote Three on Three - Memoirs of the Dead - Winner!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron Von Nebula Posted December 11, 2011 Share Posted December 11, 2011 Considering either Makuta or Great Beings created Rahi, the only way Rahi can really be said to be related is if the same being created them. It also would seem likely that a Great Being or someone made Ussal Crabs, and some Makuta thought, "Hey, I totally could improve on that", creating Manas. Quote Read my comedy, about the Hero Factory villains watching a television channel produced by our Spherus Magnan friends!The Bionicle Channel "I expect that when I write my next entry in this chronicle, I will be writing as uncontested ruler of the Brotherhood."-Certainty, my Memoirs of the Dead entry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T.B.O.C Posted December 11, 2011 Share Posted December 11, 2011 They're not related. Whenua, as a Toa, theorized on the relation of the two, as they are both rahi crabs. He may of even had more reason, being an archivst, he would probably have studied Ussal Crabs, and maybe even stories about Manas. I don't think we've ever confirmed the two had relation, and Nokama also stated that the theory was very strange, considering the docile nature of the Ussal to the nature of the Manas. Quote My Brickshelf, please don't copy!... ...Looking for shiny Regirock, Articuno, and Virizion!(Can trade most any legendary for them!)My 3DS friend list is full, sorry! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZippyWharrgarbl Posted December 11, 2011 Share Posted December 11, 2011 It is highly likely that two crabs will be related, be it in species, genus, family or otherwise. I would say that they are related. Quote Memoirs of the Dead entry: The Unknown Turaga, a tale from the late Chronicler Kodan's journal. Strakk's Best Friend, the story of a confusing yet somehow canon friendship. Terrible Comics, a collection of comics that are terrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P962 Posted December 11, 2011 Share Posted December 11, 2011 So evolution does exist in bionicle...That would be a good plot point if it turns out ussal crabs and manas are related. Quote A Toa eh? What kind of Toa am I? Ever wanted to read a manga styled retelling of the early years of Bionicle? Here ya go!http://www.bzpower.c...?showtopic=1384 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erebus Posted December 11, 2011 Share Posted December 11, 2011 There's no true evolution in the Matoran Universe, though. Evolution cannot apply to the Ussal and Manas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishers64 Posted December 12, 2011 Share Posted December 12, 2011 Makuta made all Rahi beasts, so they might have used the same blueprint for both the Manas and the Ussal. Besides, other than that, all MU inhabitants cannot be related like earth species anyway, due to their method of reproduction, which is not like ours.Considering either Makuta or Great Beings created Rahi, the only way Rahi can really be said to be related is if the same being created them. It also would seem likely that a Great Being or someone made Ussal Crabs, and some Makuta thought, "Hey, I totally could improve on that", creating Manas.They're not related. Whenua, as a Toa, theorized on the relation of the two, as they are both rahi crabs. He may of even had more reason, being an archivst, he would probably have studied Ussal Crabs, and maybe even stories about Manas. I don't think we've ever confirmed the two had relation, and Nokama also stated that the theory was very strange, considering the docile nature of the Ussal to the nature of the Manas.There's no true evolution in the Matoran Universe, though. Evolution cannot apply to the Ussal and Manas.Ussal and Manas cannot be related, other that the fact that a Makuta might have used the same basic idea to create them both, or crated the Manas based on the Ussal which was created by something else. Anything else is probably Turaga Whenua's speculation, which is likely hardly fact...those guys were duped into thinking they had awakened the Great Spirit when they hadn't. Quote Hero Factory RPG | Bionicle Mafia XXIX: Storyline & Theories Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TahuOmega Posted December 12, 2011 Share Posted December 12, 2011 They seem like two different animals. Unless, there's something else, then whatever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toatapio Nuva Posted December 12, 2011 Share Posted December 12, 2011 All I'm saying, is that I'd love it if it turns out this is a secret plot twist that Ussal Crabs are actually the juvenile form of Manas. Eventually, in the next serial chapter, we are going to learn Pewku metamorphized into a Manas and went on a killing spree. he is the one who's been killing all these ancient, powerful beings.[/Troll]This, lol. XD Quote My BZPRPG profiles - Viima, Lai Lai Kirgan, Jarkale, Hile, Tuli + Kavala, Khervos, Thira Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaT in Rogue Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 Well, there are cases of a docile, small animal being related to a big, dangerous animal on Earth, such as Cats and Lions, or Dogs and Wolves. It's not impossible. Quote "Whether that is right or not...I also...as a Rider...have a wish that I want to fulfill." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 20, 2011 Share Posted December 20, 2011 There's no true evolution in the Matoran Universe, though. Evolution cannot apply to the Ussal and Manas.Well there is something Greg calls evolution, but it obviously doesn't work in a Darwinistic sense. For all we know the Makuta could've created one type of crab Rahi, and then certain members of that species 'evolved' (i.e. transformed) into Ussal and others into Manas. I'm saying this because in this example we might be able to just discard the idea and say 'That's just Whenua's speculation.', but we also know Kinloka and Stone Rats are 'distant relatives'. As far as I know that's just canonical fact, not a theory of any BIONICLE character. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonesiii Posted December 20, 2011 Share Posted December 20, 2011 My gentle giant pet cat (giant for a pet cat ) is related to deadly tigers, lions, etc. who are much larger. Why is this hard to believe, even though it probably isn't true?It may also be true simply in the sense that the Makuta who made one may have borrowed parts of the design strategies in the other. In a world of part-machines, this type of relation would make sense. So it would be like how one type of Jeep is "related" to another. Quote The Destiny of Bionicle (chronological retelling of Bionicle original series, 9 PDFs of 10 chapters each on Google Drive): Part 1 - Warring with Fate | Part 2 - Year of Change | Part 3 - The Exploration Trap | Part 4 - Rise of the Warlords | Part 5 - A Busy Matoran | Part 6 - The Dark Time | Part 7 - Proving Grounds | Part 8 - A Rude Awakening | Part 9 - The Battle of Giants My Bionicle Fanfiction (Google Drive folder, eventually planned to have PDFs of all of it) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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