Bzprpg News And Discussion

[EmperorWhenua]

Don't get me wrong; I'm cool with teachers and "professors," but not in a grand building, thus a monastery. A librarian, a weaponsmaster, a scientist, a elemental master, a painter -- these are wonderful and would be great additions, but we also know what happens when a base gets too big or an group too powerful.

[Let's Henshin!]

I got librarian and swordmaster covered, oh, and bard. Also yeah I agree I never said anything fancy, a house of Scholars usually isn't all that fancy, its pretty much two or there houses with a courtyard or gym in the middle.

[Pyroi]

Nuju gets Matoro to call Makuta a nasty name, then blames it on said group, and said group gets smited?And also, Scholars? Why would they be teaching? They have to...Scholar. Things. Not teach the newbie toa how to not set things on fire.

[BULiK]

Who said it has to be books? Plus, paper was never mentioned and doesn't exist in Bionicle canon, soooo... I've always considered literature to be carved on stone tablets.

actually, paper (or atleast a papery substance) was featured in bionicle canonI'm trying to find it, and its at the part where the toa nuva find a papery listt in a secret compartment in the great temple, which tells what to do to prepare for mata nui's rising

[EmperorWhenua]

A better question is why wouldn't they be teaching? The whole point is to make better toa, but being a toa is more than shooting finer beams of fire and jumping higher, it's about the right morals and skills to see you and your companions through at the end of the day.Edit: Aye, Bulik, you're right. But that's an ancient scroll made by... whoever made it. XD It's not exactly common knowledge or practice to make paper.

Edited December 9, 2011 by EmperorWhenua

[They]

Okay, I getting confused about the use of NPCs in this game. Technically, isn't an NPC a NON-PLAYING Character? Meaning, they're not played by those in-game, save admins or on occasion someone needing some interaction they normally couldn't get from another player? Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought NPCs are for rare circumstances or shop interactions?

[EmperorWhenua]

NPCs are generally defined as either canon characters played by staff or non-recurring characters who follow a player character on adventures (or misadventures). Most people either don't have NPCs following them or just have one or two unnamed servants, like I do, so it's typically a non issue.

[Let's Henshin!]

Also this monastery most likely won't likely be filled with NPCs but with PCs like my Character Vernadon.

[Relapse]

Onarax, not that it wouldn't be cool, but can we each only hold one position?Taking Swordmaster, Librarian, and Bard is like hogging all the good stuff. XDBesides, Vernandon wouldn't be doing all of that, right?Personally, I find the idea of playing a teacher amusing and comically appealing.

[Let's Henshin!]

I'm not trying to hog, it's just that, that's all the stuff he is good. Plus I'd rather pass on the whole everyone having a specific role, rather the Monastery should be a place where anyone can train, but can also get help from others. Thus rather than roles its more like we are residents in a building that helps others. So if you want to be a librarian or something, go ahead be my guest, it doesn't matter if some one else is too.As for Vernadon well, he just lives there and doesn't train others, with the current exception of Nova. Plus for all the residents, I don't think there will be a lot maybe 12 or so, shouldn't they all get simple rooms to live in.

[Relapse]

I'm not sure I understand your very last sentence. Could you use commas and question marks to clarify?

[Let's Henshin!]

Sorry I ramble whenever I talk, whether that be in person or on a forumBasically I said two things:1. The number of residents in the monastery should be kept low. Like 12(all should be PCs)2. Each resident should get a small room, think a slightly larger than average college dorm.

[EmperorWhenua]

I'd rather have everyone be a teacher in one thing only, so having one character doing three things isn't what I think would be best. More people teaching specific things = more people who can be taught and more people can get help.

[Kalama and Ta Rahkshi]

And also, Scholars? Why would they be teaching? They have to...Scholar. Things. Not teach the newbie toa how to not set things on fire.

I'm going to agree with Nitro on this one. In doing so I'm going to refer to my Toa character Tanuka. Though I haven't really explored too much into it I do have her as a Scholar prior to becoming a Toa in a freak accident who continued to be one before her introduction at the beginning of my gameplay. Tanuka and her other scholar Ga-Matoran companions are simply students at a place know as The Acadamy in Ga-Koro (non-canon location). The dedicated scholars there simply to learn so that when their knowledge reaches acceptable levels, they end up becoming the teachers and continuing the cycle. (Paying homage to Ga-Metru being the learning center of Metru-Nui and kind of lost memories being leaked back into general knowledge though similar actions.) Others who study there may simply use the knowledge to further their skills.This is simply Tanuka's backstory and doesn't have to be developed for such means. You're welcome to freely build off it or ignore it completely.

[Let's Henshin!]

Well seeing as Vernadon is more of a one on one teacher, I think he should probably teach more than one thing, but only to one person. Cause in my eyes the monastery should be a place where all sorts of thinkers can come and teach people who want to learn. Regardless of the teaching method.I think we could divide up the teaching like this:1. Standard teaching, multiple teachers with multiple students.2. One on one teaching, like Master and Apprentice

Benefits

Method 1: Gets priority access to school equipment and rooms plus students are not isolated.Method 2:More personalized lessons, develop stronger bonds with teachers. However when it comes equipment and rooms, they can only use it if no class is using it.Just to make it clear, I'm suggesting that both should be available at the Monastery, of course Method 2 might not always be avaliable.

Edited December 9, 2011 by Toa Onarax

[Pyroi]

Well, in any case, I do like the idea. It would be a nice way to bide Black Mage's time while Tuck gets back.

[Razgriz]

...This'd be a really cool excuse for me to go in depth with the workings and martial arts and all...But I fear Jolek's gonna end up like me and not be a real good teacher.Also I'm going to have to figure out how to describe things that I would much rather be able to show/demonstrate, because I have trouble describing them.

Edited December 9, 2011 by Razgriz the Dovahkiin

[Relapse]

That's the fun, Raz.

[They]

I agree with Isles: that 's the fun... Can Ishi teach sculpting?

[25K Now!]

Rannin, seeing that he has basically nothing to do, and because my other inactive character is sort of a serial killer, could teach something as well, like how to creep out your enemies and show them your super-disfigured arms.Or he could just teach Iron Toa how to use the metal on their bodies efficiently, like the metal that is present on his arm and legs.

[Razgriz]

NO IT"S NOT FUN NOT FUN AT ALL/tantrumBut yeah, this is an interesting idea. I'll definitely have to think about it, and it's not like Jolek really has anything else to do...

[They]

Something is horribly WRONG:I keep checking the forums like a nervous tick. Nothing gets posted in the forums I want...I think I may actually get all my Homework done tonight.

Edited December 9, 2011 by Kughii

[The Dark Chronicler]

I myself quite like the idea of a group intent on teaching new Toa, or just those that wish to learn from others. I myself would want to join in, no matter where the location.

My personal taste is for the one teacher to each student idea. That way, the teachers teach more than just hurting things, they also teach about the morals behind hurting things.

If that style is chosen for this, it will be exactly what I was wanting to do with my character Drome, teach others how to be better Toa, and how to protect the island.

He wouldn't exactly be good at teaching about art of anything, but he could teach people how to smash things with weapons like a a hammer, club, or mace.

[Ghosthands]

I was thinking, in terms of the staff of this Academy, something like twelve Masters, each of whom specialises in one particular area. They teach this to classes, BUT have the option of taking on a protégé, who they would teach one on one; this would be completely their own responsibility and choice.While it's fine for a Master to have skills in more than one area - if they didn't they'd probably be rather boring - I really think each should be in charge of one area alone.If anyone has read Ursula Le Guin's Earthsea, I now realise that what I was imagining was Roke.Each Master should be proficient in their chosen area VERY WIDELY. For example, a weapons master would be highly skilled with ALL weapons, not just, say, the sword.There would be both academic and physical subjects, and, I would think, creative ones too.Of course, each Master could have lower-ranking teachers beneath them, who do not have the same mastery of all facets of their subject, but are still experienced in a particular part of it. Like in schools, where we have a Head of Department (in mine, at least) who is in charge of their subject and the other teachers who teach it.Of course, the numbers of students would be low compared to our schools; I wouldn't think more than twenty PCs would be there at a time, and even that might be pushing it.Who knows, with numbers as low as they will probably be, a lot of the teaching might HAVE to be one-on-one.

[a goose]

In relation to the whole academy idea, I can't helped but worry it'll get smited...Has everyone forgotten about what's-its-name castle already? :PAnyhow, there's an evil Vortixx trapped in an electric field (thankyou very much JL) in Onu-Koro, if anyone wants to free him. Please.

[BULiK]

would it be possible for a PC to create a device (i already MOC'd it) that would revolutionize the mining and siege weapons industry? or am a too far-fetched?

[Snelly]

would it be possible for a PC to create a device (i already MOC'd it) that would revolutionize the mining and siege weapons industry? or am a too far-fetched?

Probably not...that's what I'm guessing anyway, can't really say till Nuju or someone else from the staff says.

[Kalama and Ta Rahkshi]

Eh. Nuju has already said that if you can solve for everything(design, purpose, powersource, the actual mechanics, etc.) and that you can use the more readily common materials on the island to create it, it's probably not so far fetched.We'd be able to give you a better answer if you told us what it WAS.

[a goose]

would it be possible for a PC to create a device (i already MOC'd it) that would revolutionize the mining and siege weapons industry? or am a too far-fetched?

My guess: No.But, if one of the staffies suddenly changes their entire view on the BZPRPG, maybe.

[Ghosthands]

would it be possible for a PC to create a device (i already MOC'd it) that would revolutionize the mining and siege weapons industry? or am a too far-fetched?

Tuck allowed me to come up with a revolutionary new type of gunpowder, but that was because a. he likes me, b. I had a very clever and sensible explanation of exactly how it works, and c. I got lucky. Edited December 9, 2011 by Ghosthands

[BULiK]

A. i have no idea.b. i'm not entirely sure about the power source, but otherwise sorta yesc. luck hasnt been my thing recently.as soon as i find a camera and some time ill post a picture.

Edited December 9, 2011 by Bulik

[Kalama and Ta Rahkshi]

Well seeing it isn't going to help if we don't know what it is. We know it's supposed to revolutionize mining and siege warfare but you never really told us what it is. It is a giant mining laser? Some kind of Golem? A new tunneling Rahi? Explosives?

[BULiK]

eh, well really i was making it and then i thought "hey, this would be epical in the BZPRPG!" and then i decided to post it here even though i never really thought it would make it.so, ya know how the 01 toa torso can have 3 small gears inside? well i thought, "hmm... if i could put 3 gear in that, it would make a cool drill, and (story wise) it would only need to power one gear because the others would rotate because of the middle gear" so then, i used a bohrok neck piece and a 6-hole technic piece, attached to the hips of the torso piece. that way, i could have a gear (with handle attached) that i could attach near the bohrok neck piece so i could move the handle, rotating the gear, which lifted and lowered the torso piece (drill). the bohrok neck piece and technic piece were attached to a stand i made, which has 2 throwbot legs for support, because i figured i couldnt mount this on a ussal. after that, i thought. well modern drills pump water down to the drill to make it easier to drill and to push the rock debris to the surface. so i added this tube-ish, which (story wise) would act as a drainage tube. after i added it, i realized that it looked like a cannon barrel. so i decided that it could block off the sludge coming through, and then release it, having the pressurized sludge shoot a projective (stralix's grenades covered in leaves, for that extra "oomph" ) a couple hundred yards. but now i realize that it wouldn't need water pumped to it becasuse it isnt a big oil rig kinda drill, but a smaller drill for mining, not for large projects.and also, sorry for this far-fetched idea, because sometimes i post irrational stuff that i think up in my wierd fantasy world in my mind.that is all.

[Ghosthands]

MAPS - I have now started on a map of Onu-Wahi. So far the only non-canon locations included on either Onu or Po have been provided by Kalama. If anyone else has locations in either of those Wahi that I can put on the maps, PM me.

[Nuju Metru]

Pressure guns aren't really plausible, considering advanced plumbing/pneumatics don't widely exist.

Edited December 9, 2011 by Nuju Metru

[Wyrd Bid Ful Araed]

OOC: Words spoken in Italics are in Really Old Matoran. Like Latin, but with the Matoran Universe.IC(BK): The knight walked throughout the town.Oh, how dreadful. Another hovel. It seems the desert town wasn't the only source of uselessness on this island.She smashed through anyone who attempted to get in her way. Or was in her way. Or in the vague direction she was walking.

Hey Nitro, any objections if a couple of characters bump into Black Knight? My guy Clo'on is with VFs Kohra and they're in the general area

[EmperorWhenua]

Sounds to me like such a post would be best as a private message! Tsk tsk, and you're an experienced player, too! :PAlso, the fight in Le-Wahi is going on. If anyone wants to participate or just stand by and bet, feel free to hop in and let me know!

[They]

I'd bet, but wait... DJ is a contender... and has no widgets. I'll bet DJ! XD

[EmperorWhenua]

The ring does take wagers of slaves and body parts.

[BULiK]

I prefer all my fingers, thank you.man, I really want to make a new character, but I never really am getting to designing him :/