LordofBionicles Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 What´s up fellow BZPer's? LordofBionicles here again! Well, throughout the entire lifespan of BIONICLE we were talked about this "Time before time" period over and over, If I´m not mistaken it refers to the time when the Great Cataclysm struck, although I´m having my doubts, could you please help me? what do you think? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vakama-san Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 I'm pretty sure it just means 'a long time ago', emphasizing that it was, well, a really long time ago. Quote "Why can't I dream that I'm alone?" "That is not a dream, that is a substitute for reality""So where is my dream?" "it is a continuation of reality""But where is my reality?" "It is at the end of your dream" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T.B.O.C Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 Pretty sure it was pre-MU. "The Great Spirit descended from the heavens..." Correct me if I'm wrong, however. Quote My Brickshelf, please don't copy!... ...Looking for shiny Regirock, Articuno, and Virizion!(Can trade most any legendary for them!)My 3DS friend list is full, sorry! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Makuta Matata Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 It was about the time when the GBs created the Matoran and Mata Nui, I think. Quote Three on Three - Memoirs of the Dead - Winner!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cratak Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 I have always presumed that this meant Pre-Mindwipe. Thus, they could say this to the Matoran (and later Toa) without them wondering if the Turaga were telling them the truth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Iron Toa Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 Keetongu was described as being hidden since the Time Before Time, when I think it was only a few hundred years. So I think it's just a colloquial term for 'a long time ago' or 'who-knows-how-long ago'. Quote My BlogLatest Update: RPG: Character Creation and StatsMy Story CollectionStory Currently in Progress:End of Yrenta (Review Topic) (Currently at 55 Chapters)I realize I haven't updated my stories or posted much for quite a while. I will get back it it sometime, and I am still checking the site daily for any interesting topics.Brickshelf Gallery Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pomegranate Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 If one takes it literally, it could be the time period predating the completion of the Vahi. Took place around the same time as the Great Cataclysm, if I'm not wrong, so it could have a double meaning. Quote . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northmarch Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 I believe it means before Mata Nui first awoke 100 000 years ago. Though for the purpose keeping the Matoran's origins secret on Mata Nui (island), the turaga used it to reffer to pre great cataclism.I suppose it could reffer to any time before the current era. E.g.: during the reign of the barraki anything before their rise would be the time before time. Now anything before the melding was in the time before time ( which is almost all of Bionicle). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dual Cee Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 Both the time before Mata-Nui and the time before the mind-sweep. eg. the Bohrok wanted to make the island like it was in the time bofore time(before the great cataclysm) Quote I'm back! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Inika Posted January 26, 2013 Share Posted January 26, 2013 I believe Greg once implied it referred to the time before the Great Cataclysm, but that isn't really plausible since Nuju claimed in Web of Shadows that Keetongu has not been since the Time Before Time -- which was, at the time, only a few weeks ago at most. The Bahrag claim to seek to make Mata Nui as it was, in their own words, in the Before-Time. Combined with other hints, it probably means pre-Shattering. Quote "You are an absolute in these uncertain times. Your past is forgotten, and your future is an empty book. You must find your own destiny, my brave adventurer." -- Turaga Nokama Click here to visit my library! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toa of Nerds Posted January 26, 2013 Share Posted January 26, 2013 Perhaps it was before Mata-Nui was built by the Great Beings. -don't touch my pocket protector Quote Three great comedies at one low, low price....NOTHING! Kicking the Bucket (archived)Three late-middle age matoran think of something they want to do before they kick the bucket. Choose Your Own Bionicle Adventure (archived)Navigate your way through a myriad of meaningless choices as you try to not make a fool of yourself in perhaps the only comedy ever written almost entirely in spoiler tags. Useless BZP Junk that you Must Have!!!Get to your phone, whip out your credit card, and prepare to buy some useless BZPower related junk that has no benefit on society except that you want it!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
25K Now! Posted January 26, 2013 Share Posted January 26, 2013 I just assume it means a really long time these days, especially seeing all the situations it's been used in. Quote http://vimeo.com/198967785 BZPRPG Profiles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katuko Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 It seems to me that those who use the expression refer to the time they consider to be "before" the current era. The exact definition can vary.On Mata Nui, the Turaga seemed to mean pre-Cataclysm. The Bahrag appeared to use this as the baseline as well, since the "before-time" of the island would be when it was still barren, and it was only created right after the Great Cataclysm in the first place. Within the Toa Metru's stories, however, "Time Before Time" is even further back, either back to the point where none of them even existed (as per their telling of the Great Beings) or at least as far back as anyone can remember (Keetongu's disappearance, in one case).It'd be interesting to know if this particular expression stems from the Great Beings, if they used similar terms to describe their "eras". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Takua the Chronicler7 Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 I think it means the time before the current time in the Bionicle universe. I know this is not canon, but I watched the 4-minute retrospective video and the narrator, at the beginning, said:"In the time before time, six canisters washed ashore", referring to the Toa Mata. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest CharlemagneXVI Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 The phrase "time before time" stopped being used in 2006. This could mean that everything before the Matoran's return to Metru Nui was a flashback/story by the Turaga, and that everything after 2005 is the "present". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dual Cee Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 Well, the dutch translation of the time before time is "the time before OUR time" this was used in the three movies and explains a lot about the fact the word just means, before now. Quote I'm back! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lyichir Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 A part of me wonders if it could literally mean the time before the creation of the Mask of Time, at which point the status quo in Metru Nui was forever altered, and Makuta's plan to put Mata Nui to sleep was put into action. However, it's more likely to simply mean "the time before what the Matoran of Mata Nui remembered," or in a sense, prehistory. Quote Formerly Lyichir: Rachira of Influence Aanchir's and Meiko's brother Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aanchir Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 I think it's fairly clear that the "time before time" refers somewhat nebulously to the period before any written historical records, whenever that is for the person speaking. For the Matoran of Mata Nui, the "time before time" was the period before the Great Cataclysm, since as far as they knew (and as far as the Turaga would tell them) the only record of what had transpired before they arrived on the island was the oral tradition of the Legend of Mata Nui. For those living on Metru Nui, it was some time far earlier. So as Lyi says, just a more flowery way of saying "prehistory". Quote Latest MOC: PAIGE (Prototype Artificial Intelligence, Gynoid Expression) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Iron Toa Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 According to BS01, Keetongu hid on Metru Nui after his people were wiped out by Visorak. That was '1300 years ago', so around 300 BGC. That's definitely not prehistory. But since only rumors were known about him, those rumors could be twisted into legends of him being seen long ago. Quote My BlogLatest Update: RPG: Character Creation and StatsMy Story CollectionStory Currently in Progress:End of Yrenta (Review Topic) (Currently at 55 Chapters)I realize I haven't updated my stories or posted much for quite a while. I will get back it it sometime, and I am still checking the site daily for any interesting topics.Brickshelf Gallery Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Great Being Velika Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 I'm pretty sure that the "time before time" was during the Metru Nui period and before that, too. Quote I like BZP so much, I named my Minecraft account Dimensioneer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kooler186 Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 I believed the "Time Before Time" actually means before the reformation of Spherus Magna & Turage Vakama is telling the story of Bionicle to the Glatorian and Agori. This means the Lego Movie Trilogy is not him telling the Matoran and Toa, but those they have decided to live together with on their "Island Paradise." Quote Bionicle Alternate Dimensions: http://www.bzpower.com/board/index.php?showtopic=8823^ Review: http://www.bzpower.com/board/index.php?showtopic=8837My MOC: Artakha Droid http://i485.photobucket.com/albums/rr215/kooler186/ArtakhaDroid_zpsa773a406.png Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kopaka25 Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 I think it initially was used to mean the time before the Great Cataclysm, but later on was used to describe the period before Mata Nui was first awakened. I think (correct me if I'm wrong) in the second film, Vakama once talked about the events of the film as happening in the time before time. Quote "Where wisdom and valor fail, all that remains is faith. And it can overcome all." - Tahu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishers64 Posted February 25, 2013 Share Posted February 25, 2013 I always thought it was "time before humans existed." Our time. But since Bionicle has nothing to do with humans as confirmed by Greg, not. Probably more logically, it means "time before we knew time existed." It would refer to the time before the Matoran attained sapience. Quote Hero Factory RPG | Bionicle Mafia XXIX: Storyline & Theories Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dralcax Posted February 25, 2013 Share Posted February 25, 2013 Pre-mindwipe I think it referred to before the MU was created/completed, as Keetongu could very well have been placed there from the very beginning, and there would have been no recorded history prior to that point. Post-mindwipe, on Mata Nui, the Turaga used it to mean pre-mindwipe times to the same effect, as the Matoran had no memory of their lives on Metru Nui. So basically, "The time before time" means "Before any history we know of". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van Hohenheim Posted February 26, 2013 Share Posted February 26, 2013 "the time before time" Probably means the time before the great catalclysm, to tell the matoran on mata nui "Okay guys, this is a pretty long time ago" as they didn't have things such as before the Matoran Civil War. Quote Previously known as Aiwendil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NuvaTube Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 It would probably mean before the MU was activated, but then evolved to mean "A long time ago" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slifer3000 Posted March 6, 2013 Share Posted March 6, 2013 Pretty sure it was pre-MU. "The Great Spirit descended from the heavens..." Correct me if I'm wrong, however.That happened 1,000 years ago, not 100,000. 100,000 is the MU beginning. But that begs a question too, does that mean the matoran of Voya-Nui were living on the surface of Mata-Nui while they were in space? Quote Knock Knock Who's there Hoff Hoff who Yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Legendary TNT Posted March 6, 2013 Share Posted March 6, 2013 The Voya-toran were never in space. Voya Nui shot up from the Southern Continent in the Great Cataclysm and landed in the waters above the Pit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hitoshura Posted March 6, 2013 Share Posted March 6, 2013 Pretty sure it was pre-MU. "The Great Spirit descended from the heavens..." Correct me if I'm wrong, however.That happened 1,000 years ago, not 100,000. 100,000 is the MU beginning. But that begs a question too, does that mean the matoran of Voya-Nui were living on the surface of Mata-Nui while they were in space? The Great Spirit is the MU. So 100,000 years is correct. And about your question, Voya Nui was not on the surface, it was floating on Aqua Magna, with water between them. And that's not really "in space". Aqua Magna is in space, but technically Spherus Magna and the MU (after it was launched) were always in space. Quote profiles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slifer3000 Posted March 7, 2013 Share Posted March 7, 2013 (edited) So the MU had its own atmosphere while in space?Im referring to when Mata-Nui was floating in space before he dropped Edited March 7, 2013 by slifer3000 Quote Knock Knock Who's there Hoff Hoff who Yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hitoshura Posted March 7, 2013 Share Posted March 7, 2013 I guess they were referring to the creation of it/him. When he "dropped", the Turaga (Toa Metru at the time), was heading towards the island of Mata Nui (newly created), so they wouldn't really know. Quote profiles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slifer3000 Posted March 7, 2013 Share Posted March 7, 2013 I am more willing to believe the descension of Mata-Nui was the time before time though, since that's as far as the matoran knew. Quote Knock Knock Who's there Hoff Hoff who Yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishers64 Posted March 7, 2013 Share Posted March 7, 2013 So the MU had its own atmosphere while in space?Im referring to when Mata-Nui was floating in space before he dropped Yes, it did. I am more willing to believe the descension of Mata-Nui was the time before time though, since that's as far as the matoran knew. Yes, for the Mata Nui Matoran who lost their memories, anyway. Quote Hero Factory RPG | Bionicle Mafia XXIX: Storyline & Theories Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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