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#29721 Offline Silvan Haven

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Posted Sep 28 2012 - 11:01 AM

I understood most of the other repetitions, but that one was kinda confusing
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#29722 Offline Ninth Krayzikk

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Posted Sep 28 2012 - 11:03 AM

There's actually an even simpler way of putting this.Does the attack you are performing naturally occur? A ball of fire doesn't. A randome lightning strike doesn't, not without the right weather conditions. Stone doesn't just form itself, nor does metal, water, earth, etc. Now, a flaming piece of wood, that will continue without the aid of EE. So it works. Inside the field, anything elemental energy based doesn't work. And since the Garai does affect the world in an unnatural, and energy using, way, it shouldn't work.I visualize it like a big circle around Pala-Koro. Outside the circle, everything is normal. But inside, it's like elemental energy doesn't exist. so anything fueled by it stops working.
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#29723 Offline BULiK

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Posted Sep 28 2012 - 11:24 AM

So, who wants a drunk character to get on stage during the le-koro concert and sing "Everyone's a Hero" from Dr. Horrible's Sing-Along Blog?
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#29724 Offline Doctor J. Wotzon

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Posted Sep 28 2012 - 11:29 AM

So, who wants a drunk character to get on stage during the le-koro concert and sing "Everyone's a Hero" from Dr. Horrible's Sing-Along Blog?

IT'S EVERYWHERE*ahem*I think that would be a bit out of context really. Randomness doesn't really work.*pushes Zongu offscreen*

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#29725 Offline BULiK

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Posted Sep 28 2012 - 11:33 AM

I'm just putting the idea out there. I really would get a kick out of someone messing up the concert lke that.
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#29726 Offline Indigo Individual

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Posted Sep 28 2012 - 11:58 AM

So, who wants a drunk character to get on stage during the le-koro concert and sing "Everyone's a Hero" from Dr. Horrible's Sing-Along Blog?

IT'S EVERYWHERE

It's everywhere because of me, you know. I've been getting everyone to watch it. XDBut, soon I might have a character who would actually fit the necessary requirements for singing that song, so maybe. :P- Austin Powers

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Posted Sep 28 2012 - 01:10 PM

For an example, I would use a human body. A human uses carbohydrates (And fat) for power. All cells need power to function, or they die - this is drawn from the same 'pool of power'. So, some energy might be used for moving legs, and some might be used for making your brain function, and some used to make sure your organs work. Now, bring this example to a Toa, a Toa is using the same energy for both using a mask and using an element - except that, you are blocking the energy of an element, but not the energy used for things like moving muscles. As such, Mask power uses the same energy as elemental power, so if the mask is a mask of an element, it would therefore be using elemental energy, at least indirectly.

No, elemental power is a separate "battery" than the the main energy a Toa runs on. Otherwise the Toa Metru would be tired after emptying their reserves, and the Toa Nuva would not be able to use their mask powers when the Bohrok-Kal shut off their elemental powers. A mask can work indefinitely so long as the Toa is awake and focusing, and is not dead tired in other ways. Elemental power is a separate fuel.That is also what caused this argument: The Garai is explicitly an Elemental mask, but it does not drain from the Toa's elemental energy, as far as we can tell. I argue that it still uses an equivalent of elemental manipulation that the field would pick up on, but it's iffy.

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Posted Sep 28 2012 - 02:14 PM

It had been stated and shown many times in the canon that elemental energy, Toa energy, and physical/mental energy are all completely different things. Masks require concentration, or physical/mental energy, in order to function. As far as I can tell, there's no reason why the Garai should require an entirely different source of energy than other masks in order to function. It's simply a mask with the power to raise or lower the pull of gravity on something other than the user, which hardly makes it different than, say, a Matatu. There's a difference between blocking EE and blocking all elemental powers, regardless of how they're powered.I am aware that we do not always follow canon, though, so Nuju can decide whether we will stick to canon or not n his issue, though I see no reason why we wouldn't.
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#29729 Offline BULiK

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Posted Sep 28 2012 - 02:18 PM

Answer me this: does any makuta follower even wear Garai?
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#29730 Offline Ninth Krayzikk

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Posted Sep 28 2012 - 02:21 PM

Answer me this: does any makuta follower even wear Garai?

I don't think so. This is mostly the time-honored tradition of debating the mechanics of how things work, even if the end answer may never be used in any way shape or form. :P

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#29731 Offline Tyler is Love

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Posted Sep 28 2012 - 02:22 PM

Answer me this: does any makuta follower even wear Garai?

I don't keep tabs on every Makuta follower in the game, so I have no idea. It's a moot point, though: I'm not discussing this to try and give either side an advantage; I'm just trying to clarify how this machine works, and what its logical limitations are.

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#29732 Offline BenLuke

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Posted Sep 28 2012 - 02:23 PM

^^ In other words: Pointless debate, yay!

Edited by BenLuke-116, Sep 28 2012 - 02:24 PM.

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#29733 Offline Ninth Krayzikk

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Posted Sep 28 2012 - 02:28 PM

^^ In other words: Pointless debate, yay!

Speaking as an experienced school debater, debate is never pointless. :PDespite the fact there is no current reason for it, it is a good idea to iron out what the nullifiers can and cannot do. Considering how quickly characters are created, and the fact that the nullifiers are likely to be in place for quite a while, it is good to make sure we know OOC what the limits are. I mean, the ILS has a lot of enemies. Statistically speaking, one of them will eventually use a Garai.

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Posted Sep 28 2012 - 05:24 PM

What? Why didn't you make the shield one-way?

Edited by Constructman, Sep 28 2012 - 05:24 PM.

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Posted Sep 28 2012 - 05:26 PM

What? Why didn't you make the shield one-way?

......... It is one way. Anyone inside Pala Koro can still use their powers.

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#29736 Offline One-Eyed Construct

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Posted Sep 28 2012 - 05:55 PM

So you can shoot it out, but not in? And can you use it inside the field but not making it pass?
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Posted Sep 28 2012 - 06:01 PM

Sorry guys, I won't be posting until tomorrow; swamped with work once again. Particular apologies to Constructman, who seems to have the patience of a hyena on caffeine ;)
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Posted Sep 28 2012 - 06:03 PM

Hi guys, I won't be online for around 16 hours today. Can only be online for 10 hours. Going out to somewhere.Don't kill each other with debates while I'm gone.
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Posted Sep 28 2012 - 06:04 PM

HEY!
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Posted Sep 28 2012 - 06:09 PM

Hey, Constructman, at least he gave an apology. I have a low patience level for posts as well, so I know how you feel. Just don't get worked up. I've been banned from computer use enough times to know the general idea of being physically incapable of posting. Some people have stuff to do, and they can't help but annoy the person on the other end of the RP.
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Posted Sep 28 2012 - 06:13 PM

Yeah, I know... I guess some of it's m fault too as I'm compulsively checking the rpg forum every ten seconds.
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Posted Sep 28 2012 - 06:15 PM

If you're getting annoyed after only a day or so of not getting a reply, then you really should work on finding a new hobby or practice some Transcendental Meditation.-Teezy

Edited by Tyler Durden, Sep 28 2012 - 06:15 PM.

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Posted Sep 28 2012 - 06:16 PM

I compulsively check the RPG every single second.
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Posted Sep 28 2012 - 06:27 PM

I check every time I die in Halo/Cod/BF3/ACAnd the shield is 2 way - The rules apply on the inside like on the outside - You can hurl solid objects out, or create your element inside, but once out, you have no control.
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#29745 Offline Axilus Prime

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Posted Sep 28 2012 - 06:35 PM

A full 24 hours is a rather long time for an RPG reply, Tyler. However, there are people who can't post any faster than that.
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Posted Sep 28 2012 - 06:39 PM

I compulsively check the RPG every single second.

Hubert.I love you for that bro.

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Posted Sep 28 2012 - 06:39 PM

It's really not, though. When you factor in time zones, and college, and things that people do with their actual lives, twenty four hours is a decent ETA for a reply post. Spitfire RPing is convenient, but rarely does it turn out to be anything more than briefly engaging. Wait for the reply of the person you're playing with; the game will be much more enjoyable when there's time and effort put into it.-Teezy
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Posted Sep 28 2012 - 06:42 PM

< This Guy.RPs really quickly. Laughs at your engaging and long posts.One liners FTW.
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#29749 Offline Carson Chambliss

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Posted Sep 28 2012 - 06:44 PM

< This Guy.RPs really quickly. Laughs at your engaging and long posts.One liners FTW.

Don't sell yourself short. That Uyism post was a little engaging and lengthy.

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Posted Sep 28 2012 - 06:46 PM

I wrote in seven minutes. If I take longer than seven minutes to write a post, than I'm either a ) distracted by other things or b ) really serious.But yeah, thanks for the compliment man.

Edited by It's a Gundam!, Sep 28 2012 - 06:46 PM.

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Posted Sep 28 2012 - 07:22 PM

Only about three and a half hours to send in your Ancora! Still looking for Charity and Humility!
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Posted Sep 28 2012 - 07:24 PM

It's really not, though. When you factor in time zones, and college, and things that people do with their actual lives, twenty four hours is a decent ETA for a reply post. Spitfire RPing is convenient, but rarely does it turn out to be anything more than briefly engaging. Wait for the reply of the person you're playing with; the game will be much more enjoyable when there's time and effort put into it.-Teezy

.....Are you suggesting some people who play this game actually have lives?!?!?! Blasphemy!While 24 hour replies are a long time for some people, for others they are relatively fast. In my case, though, since most of the time I'm awake on bzp pressing f5 for approximately 9 hours a day (that's 15 hours of sleep, car rides, and school, for those who don't wanna do the math), I consider myself to be pretty fast by that standard. Although most times my characters are horribly inactive or I'm waiting for someone else to post.

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Posted Sep 28 2012 - 07:35 PM

For me....I am on at 6-6:30 PM (US Eastern Timezone), and then all the way to around 11 AM. Meaning that I'm on when most people are either sleeping or at school.
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Posted Sep 28 2012 - 07:37 PM

If it was up to me, I would be on almost all the time. I only need to take a 3-5 hour rest cycle to keep up energy levels, but other than that, if I had a computer in my room, you'd see my name in the bottom-right corner of your webpage...Always...
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Posted Sep 28 2012 - 07:39 PM

My parents made the mistake of installing our modem in my room, and cannot move the computer and the like elsewhere.So ... on holidays ... my schedule is ...8 am: Wake up and head to computer.12.30 am: Sleep.
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Posted Sep 28 2012 - 09:10 PM

Wait, why is your modem stuck to your computer?Personally, I have my own laptop due to my school requiring it, so at school I can still go on BZP.
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Posted Sep 28 2012 - 09:37 PM

I thought you can simply unplug and re-plug a modem anywhere in the house. My parents have done it.Now if you move a modem out of the satellite service area, then you have a problem. Unless the line that ends the service area divides your house or something like that?I have a laptop thanks to school as well. I had one before, of course, but the one from school is more portable.
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Posted Sep 28 2012 - 09:53 PM

We're getting off topic guys. Keep it BZPRPG related please. :)
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Posted Sep 28 2012 - 09:56 PM

Guys, modems, computers, this has drifted off topic. Anyways, tomarow, to my surprise, I will be mostly busy, but I will be much more active on sunday. So keep the skanohi plot at a slow pace tomarrow, I'll still try to keep up with it.EDIT: ninja'd

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Posted Sep 28 2012 - 09:58 PM

Guys, modems, computers, this has drifted off topic. Anyways, tomarow, to my surprise, I will be mostly busy, but I will be much more active on sunday. So keep the skanohi plot at a slow pace tomarrow, I'll still try to keep up with it.EDIT: ninja'd

Skanohi plot. Fast. Don't worry.

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