Elrond of Rivendell Posted July 9, 2012 Share Posted July 9, 2012 You don't run a fortress. Besides, Metru Nui isn't advanced enough to have blood samplers and genetic alarms. Besides, Deceptio got inserted in the middle of a battle. It makes for great cover.-Bane Gentlemen, it's time to spread the word. And the word is: Panic life is not a question of how long we live, but what we do with the life we haveBZRPG profiles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
otter Posted July 9, 2012 Share Posted July 9, 2012 Wait.What.Metru-Nui isn't advanced enough?Metru-Nui is the most advanced place in the entire M.U.I dunno what you're talking about Bane. profiles i guess i'm a south american giant otter now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elrond of Rivendell Posted July 9, 2012 Share Posted July 9, 2012 To have DNA scanners, and the stuff necessary to beat a good cover-story for a Dark Hunter spy.They're advanced, but not that advanced yet, unless something's changed.-Bane Gentlemen, it's time to spread the word. And the word is: Panic life is not a question of how long we live, but what we do with the life we haveBZRPG profiles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
otter Posted July 9, 2012 Share Posted July 9, 2012 Dude, we can easily test a person's DNA here in real life to see whether or not they have a disease, an extra chromosome, anything like that.If you can't tell, Metru-Nui is much, much more advanced than we are.I can't see why they wouldn't have them. profiles i guess i'm a south american giant otter now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elrond of Rivendell Posted July 9, 2012 Share Posted July 9, 2012 But to be able to tell a Vortixx from a toa? That seems a little much, even with a scanner. Besides that, you have to have a blood sample, which Deceptio will avoid doing. He can masquerade very well.Besides, if Metru Nui is so advanced, why doesn't everyone have guns?-Bane Gentlemen, it's time to spread the word. And the word is: Panic life is not a question of how long we live, but what we do with the life we haveBZRPG profiles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
otter Posted July 9, 2012 Share Posted July 9, 2012 You don't need guns when you have elemental powers, and I fail to see how that's a marker of technological achievement in this case.And really, telling a Vortixx from a Toa wouldn't be that hard. We can tell two people from each other in real life, no matter how similar they look-unless, of course, they are genetically identical twins.And really, if it's either "Submit to Blood Test" or "Don't get in/Get arrested by Vakhi," you wouldn't have much of a choice, would you? It would fail for you either way. profiles i guess i'm a south american giant otter now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toa Levacius Zehvor Posted July 9, 2012 Share Posted July 9, 2012 I don't run a fortress, but that's because the government turned my proposition down on account of being 217 years old and illegally downloading the soundtrack to a Smurfs game. They told me that's a felony.But look at it this way. What's the minimum resistance you would expect?- To get into the bases, you need to be a Toa. If you come with a large group led by an important figure, you can probably get in alright; otherwise, you'll need the below as well.- In order to get to non-public areas of the fort, you would need your name to be registered in the databases as a member of the Protectorate. You would also need a matching appearance. You have two options - register with the Protectorate under your guise, which would no doubt require the display of Kanohi and Elemental powers, or kill someone and steal their identity. With the presence of a Mask of Truth, you'll never know when you get a question you can't work around in the later case. This would be even more dangerous. In the former, you'll need a very well developed backstory.- Higher level areas with greater security will require a ranked individual to enter, and will have Vahki that are standing ready who could detect the slightest thing being off about you. And then there would be people who could notice things even the Vahki wouldn't, because they're robots.And as for technology... even in Waves, they could easily start advancing technology, and have it to Earth-level tech in a thousand years. Like how it happened in real life. They don't because there is absolutely no reason. In Metru-Nui, some 70,000 years later, they no doubt have surpassed us, and could surpass us even further if they cared to. But they've got everything working as it needs to, so no reason to work on it further.-Toa Levacius Zehvor "I disapprove of what you have to say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it." - Evelyn Beatrice Hall (often attributed to Voltaire) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elrond of Rivendell Posted July 9, 2012 Share Posted July 9, 2012 1st, He's a genetically altered toa. That makes it hard to detect. He's the same size as a toa, has all the physical attibutes of a toa, and wears amour like a toa. That alone makes him hard to spot.2nd, these are dark hunters we're talking about. They can make records, if not make a story that fits in with records.3rd, there are many toa that have gone MIA since the beginning of the war. It'd be easy to take an existing name.4th, Elemental powers can be emulated by his hand, which shoots plasma. If you want to get technical, he can't shoot it out of both hands, but a show of plasma would be display enough.The dark hunters are as advanced as Metru Nui is. They could create a Dark Hunter that could slip by all the check points.-Bane Gentlemen, it's time to spread the word. And the word is: Panic life is not a question of how long we live, but what we do with the life we haveBZRPG profiles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
otter Posted July 9, 2012 Share Posted July 9, 2012 Genetically altered, but there would still be things that would set them off.Certain genes in certain chromosomes serve as markers for a species.You know, we humans share a lot of genes with bananas. There are some genetic markers, though, in bananas that we humans don't have. Things like that.It would still be easily detectable. profiles i guess i'm a south american giant otter now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toa Levacius Zehvor Posted July 9, 2012 Share Posted July 9, 2012 Notice how I said minimum?You can always try to break in. But I trust Zarayna or LL or TD or Aderia can come up with the necessary challenges. I'll pitch in to the process if needed, since Truahkia would have thrown ideas in during planning as well, and that's the character who's just as smart as I am.Reaper is even smarter...-Toa Levacius Zehvor "I disapprove of what you have to say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it." - Evelyn Beatrice Hall (often attributed to Voltaire) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elrond of Rivendell Posted July 9, 2012 Share Posted July 9, 2012 There are simple tricks for defeating your blood sample, Kal. Blood taken from a toa could be inserted into his bloodstream, or put underneath his armour.You have a point, Zevhor. We'll just see who has the better mind when it comes down to it.That reminds me. Me and Lorax are teaming up to capture Reaper. I like a challenge.-Bane Gentlemen, it's time to spread the word. And the word is: Panic life is not a question of how long we live, but what we do with the life we haveBZRPG profiles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
otter Posted July 9, 2012 Share Posted July 9, 2012 Blood taken from a Toa could be inserted into his bloodstream.And then destroyed by an autoimmune reflex due to being from a completely different species.Under his armour?They'd probably wonder where that blood is coming from when it starts coming out and they haven't stuck the needle in anywhere near far enough. profiles i guess i'm a south american giant otter now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toa Levacius Zehvor Posted July 9, 2012 Share Posted July 9, 2012 @ Bane;1. That does not work. At all. Do you know how bad it is to inject something foreign directly into your bloodstream? There's a reason we don't use needles to take in fruit juice. Besides how delicious it tastes. Also, blood vs. blood is a terrible idea. With humans, an individual with a different blood type can't even give blood to another. That's not even considering different species.And what Kal said.2. Heh.3. That's lovely. You can go ahead and try.-Toa Levacius Zehvor "I disapprove of what you have to say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it." - Evelyn Beatrice Hall (often attributed to Voltaire) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
otter Posted July 9, 2012 Share Posted July 9, 2012 Bane, I recommend you just give up on this argument.You can still try that idea, but then Lev and I will team up to completely destroy that character. profiles i guess i'm a south american giant otter now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toa Levacius Zehvor Posted July 9, 2012 Share Posted July 9, 2012 @ Grochi;Nah, he can try the idea. I won't even send my characters after him. But the ways he's proposed so far aren't going to work. He'll need to think like James Bond.-Toa Levacius Zehvor "I disapprove of what you have to say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it." - Evelyn Beatrice Hall (often attributed to Voltaire) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elrond of Rivendell Posted July 9, 2012 Share Posted July 9, 2012 You won't even get near that character. The idea of you even getting me to headquarters is crazy. We'll see what happens. My original idea might not work, but ideas can be changed.-Bane Gentlemen, it's time to spread the word. And the word is: Panic life is not a question of how long we live, but what we do with the life we haveBZRPG profiles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
otter Posted July 9, 2012 Share Posted July 9, 2012 You won't even get near that character. The idea of you even getting me to headquarters is crazy. We'll see what happens. My original idea might not work, but ideas can be changed.-BanePffft this makes me laugh. profiles i guess i'm a south american giant otter now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elrond of Rivendell Posted July 9, 2012 Share Posted July 9, 2012 I can actively avoid your characters, Kal. Even though you have the insane ability to find and interact with anyone, I can avoid you.You won't, if what I think happens happens.-Bane Gentlemen, it's time to spread the word. And the word is: Panic life is not a question of how long we live, but what we do with the life we haveBZRPG profiles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
otter Posted July 9, 2012 Share Posted July 9, 2012 You seem to forget that I have both a sniper, and an extremely stealthy and paranoid assassin in this game, both of whom would have to be excellent trackers for their skills.Your argument is invalid. They could see you, but you wouldn't be able to see them. profiles i guess i'm a south american giant otter now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toa Levacius Zehvor Posted July 9, 2012 Share Posted July 9, 2012 If he succeeds in infiltrating, I could always have Velkarno latch onto him. Having to listen to a bard following you is only the 3rd most annoying thing in the world (preceded by those Twilight fans who camp outside the theater for days, and polka) but it's still bad.@ Grochi;And I have Truahkia, who is recycled from Gangs of Metru-Nui. When I recycle characters, unlike a JPG, they become more awesome. So he's ascended to a new plane of awesome.Levacius is a name I've used since my very first playthrough of The Elder Scrolls 3: Morrowind, many, many years ago.-Toa Levacius Zehvor "I disapprove of what you have to say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it." - Evelyn Beatrice Hall (often attributed to Voltaire) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
otter Posted July 9, 2012 Share Posted July 9, 2012 Lev, I think Polka is better than Twilight and its fans. profiles i guess i'm a south american giant otter now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmic Titan Posted July 9, 2012 Share Posted July 9, 2012 Uh, I would prefer they not be killed. I have far to many dead characters. I just want to retcon them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toa Levacius Zehvor Posted July 9, 2012 Share Posted July 9, 2012 (edited) It's twelve times better, but it's still more annoying.For the record, Justin Biebers voice comes in at #4, tied with his fans. The Mass Effect ending is #5, and CoD fanboys are #6BUT ON SUBJECT, just wanted to say I would have called the entire genetics discussion silly, being Bionicle, if it weren't for the fact that the cells of individuals would need chromosomes in order to reproduce and repair themselves. They can heal, so that must be present.But no Meiosis. Just Mitosis.@ paragon;After all that work, you would rather retcon them then let us give them epic death posts and take their stuff?-Toa Levacius Zehvor Edited July 9, 2012 by Toa Levacius Zehvor "I disapprove of what you have to say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it." - Evelyn Beatrice Hall (often attributed to Voltaire) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
otter Posted July 9, 2012 Share Posted July 9, 2012 (edited) Lev, that's in your RPG. We can't be sure about others.Or about a certain Dragon that nobody can tell whether or not his species works that way. Edited July 9, 2012 by Kal Grochi profiles i guess i'm a south american giant otter now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toa Levacius Zehvor Posted July 9, 2012 Share Posted July 9, 2012 I'm pretty sure Zarayna agreed with me on the Review topic that Bionicle characters don't reproduce. I could pull that up if I need to.And he's the boss, so you have to do what he says.-Toa Levacius Zehvor "I disapprove of what you have to say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it." - Evelyn Beatrice Hall (often attributed to Voltaire) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
otter Posted July 9, 2012 Share Posted July 9, 2012 Well, there's also the fact that Aclaraung isn't a typical Bionicle character, and that I invented his species/subspecies, depending on which RPG you're in.But meh, I can't follow through anything like that anyways, I'd probably break a bunch o' rules. profiles i guess i'm a south american giant otter now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmic Titan Posted July 9, 2012 Share Posted July 9, 2012 What work?I'm not letting you or anyone else have Legio's magical swords. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toa Levacius Zehvor Posted July 9, 2012 Share Posted July 9, 2012 @ paragon;You're no fun. Island of Pain etiquette was that you'd give up your character and somebody would kill them off to demonstrate that anybody and everybody can and quite possibly will die. Except Armadijo or Rakata. That was a lot of good equipment that magically vanished when Armadjio dropped, but Rakatas characters littered the fores for later looting. Arillan ended up carrying a bunch of Kanohi and weapons. So was one of Magnus Greels characters. He had, like, eight Kanohi and a whole arsenal of weapons.@ Grochi;Do not provide demonstrations, there are children.-Toa Levacius Zehvor "I disapprove of what you have to say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it." - Evelyn Beatrice Hall (often attributed to Voltaire) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmic Titan Posted July 9, 2012 Share Posted July 9, 2012 This isn't Island of Pain. And in Island of Pain I had most of my characters either just vanish or explode.I put more work in Legio's swords than the characters. Save for the names. I am really bad at naming. And I would prefer if no one got the swords. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toa Levacius Zehvor Posted July 9, 2012 Share Posted July 9, 2012 ^ This guy is no fun.Grochi, if Truahkia dies, I want you to have his Khopesh. Because Khopesh is a funny sounding word. I don't care what it takes, you get that Khopesh. And you do Khopesh things with it. Like disarming people and stabbing them.-Toa Levacius Zehvor "I disapprove of what you have to say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it." - Evelyn Beatrice Hall (often attributed to Voltaire) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
otter Posted July 9, 2012 Share Posted July 9, 2012 ^ This guy is no fun.Grochi, if Truahkia dies, I want you to have his Khopesh. Because Khopesh is a funny sounding word. I don't care what it takes, you get that Khopesh. And you do Khopesh things with it. Like disarming people and stabbing them.-Toa Levacius Zehvor :DLev.I didn't know you liked Khopesh's as much as I do. profiles i guess i'm a south american giant otter now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadow pridak money gang Posted July 9, 2012 Share Posted July 9, 2012 I don't run a fortress, but that's because the government turned my proposition down on account of being 217 years old and illegally downloading the soundtrack to a Smurfs game. They told me that's a felony.Best post to come out of this Discussion topic ever.-Teezy ＳＡＹ ＩＴ ＯＮＥ ＭＯＲＥ ＴＩＭＥ ＴＥＬＬ ＭＥ ＷＨＡＴ ＩＳ ＯＮ ＹＯＵＲ ＭＩＮＤ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Lorax Posted July 10, 2012 Share Posted July 10, 2012 OOC: These knowledge towers are big - like multi-story bulidings. I said this was a small one, but even so, I can't see a pair of frost beetles absorbing the impact - by all rights they should be squished paper-thin.OOC: Okay, I guess my character's dead then.He doesn't have to be dead unless that's what you want. It is still possible to escape, just not by hiding under frost beetles.For example, you could say that your character made a fissure in the ground and hid inside that while the tower crashed down on top. He then uses his earth powers to make a tunnel under the ground that takes him back to the coliseum of wherever. That would ift what has been RPed since and still keep your guy alive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keizah the Kaleidoscope Posted July 10, 2012 Share Posted July 10, 2012 (edited) He doesn't have to be dead unless that's what you want. It is still possible to escape, just not by hiding under frost beetles.For example, you could say that your character made a fissure in the ground and hid inside that while the tower crashed down on top. He then uses his earth powers to make a tunnel under the ground that takes him back to the coliseum of wherever. That would ift what has been RPed since and still keep your guy alive.Ah, thanks for moving this discussion to this topic, I kinda forgot this topic existed. ;I won't be able to post for a while, so that's why I considered just ditching the character. I guess I can just edit the post but leave Dradak's whereabouts open-ended for the time being... Edited July 10, 2012 by Keizah the Kaleidoscope [æzɚæθ mɛtriɔn zɪnθos] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmic Titan Posted July 10, 2012 Share Posted July 10, 2012 (edited) Well I'm out of creativity. I can't think up an opening post for Valeo. All the ones I tried to write have too much death in them or they didn't make any sense. Ugh! Edited July 10, 2012 by paragon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mef Man Posted July 10, 2012 Share Posted July 10, 2012 Stalker alert for Steela and his group...-Mef http://www.bzpower.c...t=80#entry44488 My BZPRPG characters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legolover-361 Posted July 10, 2012 Share Posted July 10, 2012 Considering Steela has been laughing at the top of his lungs on and off for the past several minutes, B8's arrival is very justified. (( BZPRPG profiles: Kynaera, Nova )) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mef Man Posted July 10, 2012 Share Posted July 10, 2012 Agreed. Stealth isn't in Steela's vocab..-Mef http://www.bzpower.c...t=80#entry44488 My BZPRPG characters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Void Emissary Posted July 10, 2012 Share Posted July 10, 2012 Um, is the port strike still going on?-Void [ BZPRPG ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elrond of Rivendell Posted July 10, 2012 Share Posted July 10, 2012 Yes, but just barely. The DH routed the Protectorate. My new char Amerikos is there, attacking, but that's pretty much it.-Bane Gentlemen, it's time to spread the word. And the word is: Panic life is not a question of how long we live, but what we do with the life we haveBZRPG profiles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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