BZPRPG News and Discussion

[MoonKnight]

Deadpool and Vezon are both awesome, but let's leave the Marvel characters out of this.

Exactly.

[25K Now!]

No he's a poor man's Deadpool.

[Not Quite Dead]

How about deadpool on antidermis?

[MoonKnight]

No he's a poor man's Deadpool.

I don't get it. What similarity between them did you find?

[shadow pridak money gang]

No he's a poor man's Deadpool.

 

not that i don't agree on both counts (gimme dat jen walters female empowerment fanboy ring) but when i say case closed, i mean it. 

 

whether you like vezon or deadpool or roodaka or whoever, you have to understand that it's not an objective preference and there is no universally cool character because everyone likes different things and there's no use telling people they're wrong about it. especially in a thread like this, which is not the place for such discussion.

 

last warning. for everyone.

 

-Tyler

[Nato G]

Moving on from the case closed topic, I've noticed stralix powder shares several properties of conventional black powder. So, in theory, since we apparently already have howitzer sized cannons somewhere, would it not be theoretically possible to create primitive flintlock-style pistols and muskets, using stralix powder?

[Constructelf]

The Howitzer cannons are just oversized Patero launchers, which used compressed air to shoot, and stralix powder is mostly used for grenades and such. Presumably, nobody's found a way to create a gun small enough for a person to hold that doesn't blow up in their face yet.

[Nato G]

Except all of the foreign tech weapons.

 

If someone were to reverse-engineer any one of those, then suddenly things would get a whole lot more interesting...

[Daniel the Finlander]

Well, it's not that I have an inventor character who is trying to do just that.. no, not at all.

[Geardirector]

You guys and your talk about guns. I find your lack of faith in classic Bionicle projectile weapons... disturbing.

 

Disk launchers ftw.

[Nato G]

i'm merely pointing out that with the materials that currently exist in the RPG universe, it seems entirely possible to create primitive firearms.

[Ghosthands]

Please bear in mind that Native Tech-level inventions must be approved by staff. Wouldn't want them to blow up in your face, would we?

 

Edited October 11, 2014 by Twelfth Ghosthands

[Nato G]

Your response makes it sound like making these kind of weapons would actually be doable... excellent...

[Toatapio Nuva]

Player: Whee, I made a character with a super cool gun!

Staff: Unacceptable

*gun explodes*

Staff: Character X is now dead.

[Nato G]

Any ideas I actually come up with would be approved by staff before I went a-posting. 

 

I have an inventor-ish character... the only problem being that he's currently being arrested in Ta-Koro. Speaking of which... is anyone ever going to show up to interrogate Natharius? 

[shadow pridak money gang]

Player: Whee, I made a character with a super cool gun!

Staff: Unacceptable

*gun explodes*

Staff: Character X is now dead.

 

 

: )

 

-Tyler

[Toatapio Nuva]

 

Player: Whee, I made a character with a super cool gun!

Staff: Unacceptable

*gun explodes*

Staff: Character X is now dead.

 

 

: )

 

-Tyler

 

 

Quite accurate.

[Daniel the Finlander]

Please bear in mind that Native Tech-level inventions must be approved by staff. Wouldn't want them to blow up in your face, would we?

 

sure, I'll do it once my character creates a functional version.

[Silvan Haven]

Moving on from the case closed topic, I've noticed stralix powder shares several properties of conventional black powder. So, in theory, since we apparently already have howitzer sized cannons somewhere, would it not be theoretically possible to create primitive flintlock-style pistols and muskets, using stralix powder?

 

Nuju has been pretty iffy about firearms for the last couple of arcs despite us having madu cabolo the entire time. While he certainly has loosened up recently I'm still not sure if he would ok something like that.

[Nuju Metru]

 

Moving on from the case closed topic, I've noticed stralix powder shares several properties of conventional black powder. So, in theory, since we apparently already have howitzer sized cannons somewhere, would it not be theoretically possible to create primitive flintlock-style pistols and muskets, using stralix powder?

 

Nuju has been pretty iffy about firearms for the last couple of arcs despite us having madu cabolo the entire time. While he certainly has loosened up recently I'm still not sure if he would ok something like that.

 

 

Recently, House brought up firearms with me via PM. I'll tell y'all what I told him: Mata Nui isn't gonna get firearms. I'm not a fan of guns in this game in general (I mean, really, there are so many cooler and more creative weapons you foreign characters could've gotten approved!) because, to me, they don't feel like they belong in a BIONICLE world. This is less to do with the actual technological level - our denizens have little computers, after all; controlled combustion isn't inconceivable by any means in that light -  and more to do with the tone of the world and with combat.

 

Introducing gunpowder weapons in a mainstream way to the island of Mata Nui would change the dynamics of PC combat on the island, and I think it'd change them for the worse. He-shot-she-shot would get boring really quickly; unrealistically dodging bullets would become an epidemic problem; there's only so much creativity you can exercise with a weapon that goes boom. "But Nuju, there are other projectile weapons in the game that you're totally fine with!" Correct. Zamors, energy pulses, plasma bolts, and etc. feel like they belong here, and not everyone has them. Bullets, which we never saw in BIONICLE, don't feel like they belong. Besides, if the native populace of Toa, Turaga, and Matoran had access to guns, why would they ever use anything else?

 

I keep guns out of the game as much as I can to preserve the variety of combat and to keep us grounded - even in spite of the island's technological advances - in a world that feels like an extension of the MNOLG (at least, that's the dream).

[Makuta Miras]

Seeing as we have Zamor launchers, are Nynrah Ghost Blasters of either type allowed then? What about Midak Skyblasters? Or Cordak Blasters? Or Rhotuka?

[silo]

Is Midak even alive on this version of Mata-Nui?

Since Skyblasters use light-energy based projectiles, and light powers are banned, I can't see this easily happening.

Again, not sure that Nynrah is even a canon place in the rpg, but I suppose an equivalent could be made*...

Some rahi have natural rhotuka, so I guess it isn't unbelievable that the matoran could copy them to make mechanical ones.

As for cordaks, not sure, I guess we have explosives and we have lauchers, so why not explosives launchers 

 

*Mata-Nui ghost blasters doesn't have the same ring to it

EDIT: Just realised I had a total of 3 :Ps in this post...

Edited October 11, 2014 by Silo

[Daniel the Finlander]

Alright Nuju, I'll make my inventor invent something else.. something more creative, i guess

[MoonKnight]

I'm reading the RPG story right now and the frase "Makuta exploited Kopaka’s jealousy and ambition, and convinced him to betray his teammates" made me fall of my chair.

How on earth is that even possible!!? Kopaka has always been more of a loner, but his moral code is even stricter than the one of his fellow Toa! What jealousy!? What ambition!?

Or is this universe's Kopaka... Different?

Anyways, as I continued reading as he turned into Heunai, I got more intrigued. Such a plot scheme resembled somewhat of a Bionicle's Anakin Skywalker, who failed to the Dark side and became Darth Vader...

[Silvan Haven]

All of those would fall under Foreign Tech, not something that the people on Mata Nui could come up with.

 

I guess someone could make something close to a cordak blaster but those things are so clunky that I doubt many people would use them anyway.

 

I'm pretty sure we don't have any rahi on Mata Nui that use rhotuka. Even if they did, anyone trying to reverse engineer anything from them would need to know how to manipulate energy in a way beyond what we can do in real life. Considering that everybody on Mata Nui is behind where we are in real life and you can see the problem.

[Makuta Miras]

My new Toa of Iron, Ayar, is open for interaction in Ga-Wahi now! Just don't take her off on any wild adventures to the other side of the island, please. She needs to stay put in Ga, so that she can be recruited by The Outsiders.

[Timageness]

...

I'm going to go slap myself upside the head for giving a certain Vortixx NPC in Ko-Wahi two Cordak Blasters now...

Edited October 11, 2014 by timageness411

[MoonKnight]

...

I'm going to go slap myself upside the head for giving a certain Vortixx NPC in Ko-Wahi two Cordak Blasters now...

Sounds... Awkward...

 

Oh! What is the elemental power of Crystal? What does it grant it's bearer?

Edited October 11, 2014 by MoonKnight

[Silvan Haven]

Exactly what it says. The user can manipulate or create any sort of crystal they can think of. That can range anywhere from quartz to diamond.

 

Its a custom element that has been in the BZPRPG for a long time.

[MoonKnight]

Exactly what it says. The user can manipulate or create any sort of crystal they can think of. That can range anywhere from quartz to diamond.

 

Its a custom element that has been in the BZPRPG for a long time.

Very interesting... Thanks for the tip)

[Tea-rex]

Kakrant has a laser gun type thingy, which AHS been approved by Nuju, so that's as close as we're gonna get a real gun in the RPG.

On another note - is there a place curtently for a Toa of Iron?

[The Lorax]

Seeing as we have Zamor launchers, are Nynrah Ghost Blasters of either type allowed then? What about Midak Skyblasters? Or Cordak Blasters? Or Rhotuka?

 

Rhotuka do exist in the game, as foreign tech.

Cordak do not, yet, but plenty of boom-making technological devices do (such as explosive zamors), so I think one could probably get approved.

Midak Skyblasters have not appeared, probably for the reasons Silo mentioned.

Nynrah Ghostblaster are problematic, because of the powers of both versions. One takes over someone else's body, which is a bit OP, and the other produces energy that can be molded by the user's mind, and can include any form of energy that might be useful for the situation, including light, but also heat, sound, electricity... That's a few elements there, so one weapon controlling all of them is not going to get approved.

[Timageness]

This is going to sound stupid, but what are the chances of a Crystal-Toa (still haven't got word on a prefix) being able to create rock-candy?

[Constructelf]

This is going to sound stupid, but what are the chances of a Crystal-Toa (still haven't got word on a prefix) being able to create rock-candy?

Lorax's census used "Cry".

[soularin]

I'm probably wrong about this, but I vaguely remember someone using 'Kru' as a prefix. Likely customized, but it sounded cool to me so I used it once or twice a while back.

[The Lorax]

There has also been Ki, and a bunch of others people have used for their own characters along the way. There has never really been one official prefix for crystal.

[Ghosthands]

I'm reading the RPG story right now and the frase "Makuta exploited Kopaka’s jealousy and ambition, and convinced him to betray his teammates" made me fall of my chair.

How on earth is that even possible!!? Kopaka has always been more of a loner, but his moral code is even stricter than the one of his fellow Toa! What jealousy!? What ambition!?

Or is this universe's Kopaka... Different?

Anyways, as I continued reading as he turned into Heunai, I got more intrigued. Such a plot scheme resembled somewhat of a Bionicle's Anakin Skywalker, who failed to the Dark side and became Darth Vader...

 

Most things in the BZPRPG are different to their canon counterparts. Our characters tend to be more 'human', and not just in the biological sense; I like to think that we manage to make them more believable as people, with more complex personalities than you'd find in canon.

 

I suppose the point is that nobody is infallible. Despite being a great and heroic Toa, our Kopaka had character flaws that were his downfall and allowed Makuta to corrupt him. Thus he became Heuani.

Kakrant has a laser gun type thingy, which AHS been approved by Nuju, so that's as close as we're gonna get a real gun in the RPG.

On another note - is there a place curtently for a Toa of Iron?

 

 

Actually, there are several characters (e.g. Dorian) who possess Foreign Tech items that are very close to real-world guns. No offence, but I recommend you do a little research before you make sweeping statements like that.

 

What do you mean by 'a place' for a Toa of Iron? If you want one, make one!

Edited October 11, 2014 by Twelfth Ghosthands

[Tea-rex]

@Twelfthghosthands

Oh, no no no.

I meant that things like laser guns (because I assumed I wasn't the only one who had one) are probably going to be the closest things we're gonna have to real life guns in-RPG.

And by 'a place', I mean somewhere where a Toa of Iron is needed.

[otter]

What ghostie here was saying was that we already have characters who have weapons that are a lot closer to real-life guns than are laser guns, man.

[Ghosthands]

That is indeed what I was saying.

 

Just to clarify (how often I find myself saying that these days...), Foreign Tech items that function identically to real-world firearms have been approved and exist in-game. Take, for example, Dorian's pistol or Rorg's sniper rifle. What Nuju was saying was—and I strongly agree—he wants to keep the number of such things to a minimum and certainly not make them widely available.