tourmalinex Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 (edited) So I was having a talk with my friends and according to them Gen 1 , was "deleted" so it does not existed in the Gen 2 as an parallel universe. Edited November 4, 2015 by tourmalinex Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Hip Historian Iaredios Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 So I was having a talk with my friends and according to them Gen 1 , was "delete" so it does not existed in the Gen 2 as an parallel universe.So many things wrong with this that I don't even know how to begin. 8 Quote A RUDE AWAKENING - A Spherus Magna redo | Tzais-Kuluu | Pushing Back The Tide | Last Words | Black Coronation | Blue Man Bound | Visions of Thasos ن We are all but grey specks in a dark complex before a single white light Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regitnui Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 So I was talking to my friends, and according to them, Gen 1 was "deleted" so it does not exist in Gen 2.Now that it's been grammatically fixed; 1. Gen1 and Gen2 are separate continuities. What happened in G1 doesn't affect G2, and vice-versa. 2. Gen1 still exists, but as a different universe/story. Much like the Star Trek reboot didn't eliminate the original series from being made. 3. Your friends have no idea what a reboot means. Like rebooting a computer, G2 takes the central premise of "robots on tropical island" and goes in a different direction. Any other questions? 2 Quote Elemental Rahi in Gen2, anyone? A write-up for an initial video for a G2 plot I really wish everyone would stop trying to play join the dots with Gen 1 and Gen 2 though,it seems there's a couple new threads everyday and often they're duplicates of already existing conversations! Or simply parallel them with a slightly new 'twist'! Gen 2 is NEW, it is NOT Gen 1 and it is NOT a continuation. Outside of the characters we already have I personally don't want to see ANY old characters return. I think it will cheapen the whole experience to those of us familiar with the original line... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naota Takizawa Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 Yeah, thanks for stating the obvious, everyone knew that G1 & G2 are separate stories that are never going to be combined. (Though there are people who still believe the G2 story is a continuation.) Quote If you like Pingu & want to support a good project, click here. Also, I've rejoined the BZPRPG & I have a new profile for a new game. Click here to see it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
believe victims Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 Nothing "exists". Reality is an illusion conjured by the mind. 15 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonesiii Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 In short, yes, Gen 2 is a reboot or reimagining and Gen 2 does not exist within the same universe. Whether it exists as a parallel universe within the same story franchise that characters could hypothetically travel to with an Olmak, I don't know if that's been commented on. Those are two different things, remember. And I doubt they would comment on it, because Gen 1 isn't the point of Gen 2. They're just trying to tell new stories that stand on their own merit. 2 Quote The Destiny of Bionicle (chronological retelling of Bionicle original series, 9 PDFs of 10 chapters each on Google Drive): Part 1 - Warring with Fate | Part 2 - Year of Change | Part 3 - The Exploration Trap | Part 4 - Rise of the Warlords | Part 5 - A Busy Matoran | Part 6 - The Dark Time | Part 7 - Proving Grounds | Part 8 - A Rude Awakening | Part 9 - The Battle of Giants My Bionicle Fanfiction (Google Drive folder, eventually planned to have PDFs of all of it) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petewa Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 So I was having a talk with my friends and according to them Gen 1 , was "delete" so it does not existed in the Gen 2 as an parallel universe. Fun fact: because the Transformers aligned continuity was made doesn't mean that Transformers Animated never existed. The same applies to Bionicle. 1 Quote Mataru Nui, an Interactive Adventure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lyichir Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 Here's a factoid that'll blow your mind. G2 also doesn't exist. They're both fictional. There's no Toa, no Mata Nui, no Ekimu. It's all just made up stories. But in all seriousness, just because the two stories aren't canonically linked doesn't make either one less legitimate or "real" than the other. G1 still exists in the G1 continuity, G2 still exists in the G2 continuity, and even though those stories are totally independent of one another, neither one has really "ceased to exist". 5 Quote Formerly Lyichir: Rachira of Influence Aanchir's and Meiko's brother Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rahkshi Lalonde Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 they're 100% right, Bionicle G1 doesn't and never has existed, you've been living a lie, gaslighted, bamboozeled. wake up, america. 1 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghidora131 Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 Wait... G1 never happened??? MY life is a lie!!! *jumps off of a significant random cliff screaming 'MANTAX FACTS' all the way to his death* 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tourmalinex Posted November 4, 2015 Author Share Posted November 4, 2015 (edited) They were thinking that Lego did what Disney has done to StarWars with their massive retcon.That Gen 2 is a massive retcon of Gen 1. Edited November 4, 2015 by tourmalinex Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rahkshi Lalonde Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 They were thinking that Lego did what Disney has done to StarWars with their massive retcon.That Gen 2 is a massive retcon of Gen 1. well in that case, no, it's just a reboot, sorta a completely seperate yet similar entity. o: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kopekemaster Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 they're 100% right, Bionicle G1 doesn't and never has existed, you've been living a lie, gaslighted, bamboozeled. wake up, america. (Credit to xkcd) Also, G1 never existed within G2, so it wasn't "deleted" from G2 as an afterthought or something, they're just completely separate things and always have been. (maybe) 5 Quote My Writing Blog (more writing coming soon!) My Bionicle/LEGO Blog (defunct) Hyfudiar on Spotify (noise/drone/experimental music) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xboxtravis Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 Here's a factoid that'll blow your mind. G2 also doesn't exist. They're both fictional. There's no Toa, no Mata Nui, no Ekimu. It's all just made up stories. Yep. While Lego is busy telling the stories of G2, my mind creates crazy fandom stories and G1 connections because, well I can. Its fiction! But those plastic Bionicle things in your home, yeah those are real, and Lego produced thousands of more like them. But they don't come to life like in Toy Story, sorry... Quote All aboard the hype train! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aldero Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 Aside from the sudden introduction of existentialism in this thread, I will say that G1 was never really retconned or anything. It would have been retconned if a pre-established and understood consequence of an event is changed abruptly to suit the current story's story, but no solid or undoubtable connections have been made that would link the completely separate universes of G1 and G2. They exist separately and prosper independently. Good day. Quote < -< =<o>= >- > Ha! I tricked you into reading my signature! < -< =<o>= >- > Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrSciFiGuy Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 Gen 2 is not connected to Gen 1, but it is Bionicle after all so we can just assume it is an alternate dimension 1 Quote Bionicle: ANP aims to create narrated versions of all the Bionicle books, with voice actors for each character, and music taken from various media to enhance the story. Check here if you're interested in voicing a character, and here for the chapters that've already been released!Formerly: Tahu Nuva 3.0Looking for a Bionicle Beanie. Black one with the symbol on it. Contact me if you are willing to sell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toa of Ice - 1987 Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 (edited) In short, yes, Gen 2 is a reboot or reimagining and Gen 2 does not exist within the same universe. Whether it exists as a parallel universe within the same story franchise that characters could hypothetically travel to with an Olmak, I don't know if that's been commented on. Those are two different things, remember. And I doubt they would comment on it, because Gen 1 isn't the point of Gen 2. They're just trying to tell new stories that stand on their own merit. You said it best, unless a dimension hopping mask like the olmak exists in g2 then they are not connected and merely a separate universe like in the lego movie. Edited November 9, 2015 by ---Kopaka Nuva--- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toa Imrukii Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 G1 and G2, though they may or may not be connected in some way (I want to keep my hopes up in that aspect), they aren't the same, but that doesn't mean that G1 is no longer existent if that's what you were getting at, just because LEGO isn't working on the G1 story doesn't mean that is no longer exists! Ever heard of Multiverse theory? Quote Quote: "Love has no fear, and no vengeance." | :i: | Andekas ⴳ A RUDE AWAKENING - A BIONICLE G1 Continuation and Video Game Project (ARTIST AND CONCEPTUALIST) | I am an ENFP, that is my Personality. Check Out Makuta Teridax: Reaper of Darkness | Check out my Taknuva Stars MOC | ⴳ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xboxtravis Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 In short, yes, Gen 2 is a reboot or reimagining and Gen 2 does not exist within the same universe. Whether it exists as a parallel universe within the same story franchise that characters could hypothetically travel to with an Olmak, I don't know if that's been commented on. Those are two different things, remember. And I doubt they would comment on it, because Gen 1 isn't the point of Gen 2. They're just trying to tell new stories that stand on their own merit. You said it best, unless a dimension hopping mask like the olmak exists in g2 then they are not connected and merely a separate universe like in the lego movie.So wait, on the edge of Okoto is a wall of Lego Bricks that President Lord Business put there to divide Gen 1, Gen 2, Cloud Cuckoo Land, Middle Zealand, and Bricksburg from each other? 2 Quote All aboard the hype train! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regitnui Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 In short, yes, Gen 2 is a reboot or reimagining and Gen 2 does not exist within the same universe. Whether it exists as a parallel universe within the same story franchise that characters could hypothetically travel to with an Olmak, I don't know if that's been commented on. Those are two different things, remember. And I doubt they would comment on it, because Gen 1 isn't the point of Gen 2. They're just trying to tell new stories that stand on their own merit. You said it best, unless a dimension hopping mask like the olmak exists in g2 then they are not connected and merely a separate universe like in the lego movie.So wait, on the edge of Okoto is a wall of Lego Bricks that President Lord Business put there to divide Gen 1, Gen 2, Cloud Cuckoo Land, Middle Zealand, and Bricksburg from each other?In this case, more like an impassible technic forest. 3 Quote Elemental Rahi in Gen2, anyone? A write-up for an initial video for a G2 plot I really wish everyone would stop trying to play join the dots with Gen 1 and Gen 2 though,it seems there's a couple new threads everyday and often they're duplicates of already existing conversations! Or simply parallel them with a slightly new 'twist'! Gen 2 is NEW, it is NOT Gen 1 and it is NOT a continuation. Outside of the characters we already have I personally don't want to see ANY old characters return. I think it will cheapen the whole experience to those of us familiar with the original line... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSkeletonMan939 Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 So I was having a talk with my friends and according to them Gen 1 , was "deleted" so it does not existed in the Gen 2 as an parallel universe. I think it's time to find new friends. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Editor Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 So I was having a talk with my friends and according to them Gen 1 , was "deleted" so it does not existed in the Gen 2 as an parallel universe. I'm guessing they're the kind of people who say that the Star Wars EU means nothing to anyone now... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erasmus Graves Posted November 15, 2015 Share Posted November 15, 2015 I'm guessing they're the kind of people who say that the Star Wars EU means nothing to anyone now...Wait... the Thrawn trilogy's non-canon now? NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!(I blame Disney) But still, I don't reckon G1's non-canon. It's probably just a parallel universe. Quote "Mutiny, Booty and Entropy" - The Three Vices of the Frostelus[flash=250,100]http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/sprxtrerme/BANNERS/thornax.swf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xboxtravis Posted November 16, 2015 Share Posted November 16, 2015 I'm guessing they're the kind of people who say that the Star Wars EU means nothing to anyone now...Wait... the Thrawn trilogy's non-canon now? NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!(I blame Disney) But still, I don't reckon G1's non-canon. It's probably just a parallel universe.It's only non-canon until Thrawn gets a cameo in Star Wars: Rebels someday ... Heck the purpose of declaring anything non-canon/alternate universe is so that the IP owner can rip-off their older work easily example: Disney: The Expanded Universe is non-canon, now we put their stories into Rebels... DC: The previous Batman films are an alternate story, so now we can make a movie of Batman versus Superman... Lego: Gen 1 is an unrelated universe, so now we can use the six Toa without linking to their former back story... Quote All aboard the hype train! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lyichir Posted November 16, 2015 Share Posted November 16, 2015 (edited) I'm guessing they're the kind of people who say that the Star Wars EU means nothing to anyone now...Wait... the Thrawn trilogy's non-canon now? NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!(I blame Disney) But still, I don't reckon G1's non-canon. It's probably just a parallel universe.It's only non-canon until Thrawn gets a cameo in Star Wars: Rebels someday ... Heck the purpose of declaring anything non-canon/alternate universe is so that the IP owner can rip-off their older work easily example: Disney: The Expanded Universe is non-canon, now we put their stories into Rebels... DC: The previous Batman films are an alternate story, so now we can make a movie of Batman versus Superman... Lego: Gen 1 is an unrelated universe, so now we can use the six Toa without linking to their former back story... It's not so much about ripping off their older work so much as being able to use it in new ways. The old Star Wars Expanded Universe, for example, would have SEVERELY limited the creative freedom possible for Episode VII, because so much post-Episode VI content had already been covered (some of it in a less-effective fashion than the movie series deserves). By decanonizing the lot of it, the series is free to go in new directions—some of which could potentially still draw from that old content. So your example (Thrawn appearing in Rebels) would be a possibility, but at the same time it's not a requirement, and if they did bring a character like that in they wouldn't necessarily have to stay true to that character's original context. The same applies to Bionicle G2. The original Bionicle lore had become excessively dense for an ongoing children's storyline, especially one that had largely faded from the public consciousness after four years of inactivity. So Lego went with a back-to-basics approach that reinterpreted the foundations of the story without requiring an understanding of the original story to follow. Now Lego is free to draw from the "first-draft" G1 provides at their leisure, while still being able change or improve aspects of the classic story as well as being able to take the story in brand-new, unprecedented directions. Edited November 16, 2015 by Lyichir 3 Quote Formerly Lyichir: Rachira of Influence Aanchir's and Meiko's brother Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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