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[Constructelf]

Quick question: what would happen if an inorganic substance was exposed to antidermis? Suppose you dumped it on a rock or something. Rock has no moral alignment; it's just a rock. Would the antidermis turn it into some sort of indestructible rock then (because it can cause more destruction if it never breaks).

[Silvan Haven]

Judging from the glass vials that we see it being held in I would figure that nothing happens.

[Voxumo]

Spoke with nuju on something similar, if antidermis can not affect a kanohi, I would assume it could not affect other non-organic stuff. Likely it would just wash over the rock and do nothing.

[They]

If so then the Abettors are not entirely organic, are they?  My deduction used the following information:

• Good beings, and those with morals closer to good than evil, are destroyed by Antidermis.
• non-living things such as kanohi are not affected by antidermis.
• Zaktan used antidermis to enslave the Abettor in Mangaia.  
• The Abettor has been stated as being entirely inorganic in substance.  Additionally, Ishi has proved it, "does not eat."

Edited September 10, 2014 by Kughii

[Nuju Metru]

If so then the Abettors are not entirely organic, are they? 

 

Gonna assume you meant to say "robotic," and tell you that the Abettors are entirely robotic. However, to quote myself from the Vault Loot post:

 

 

In our game, Antidermis is “fluid destruction,” a pseudo-intelligent substance that, when it comes into contact with sentience, will pursue the most economical way to cause more destruction in the world.

 

This is the key: Antidermis only affects sentient beings, organic or otherwise. The level of processing that the Abettors are capable of is definitely close enough to sentience for them to be corruptible. Antidermis isn't designed to have any effect on the purely inorganic or unthinking, such as the vials/Zamors/vat it's held in, as those objects are amoral in the most literal sense, and so outside the fluid's "programmed" interest.

[Silvan Haven]

I always thought that they were robots. Nothing biomechanical about them.

 

Edit: Aaaaaand ninjad by Nuju.

Edited September 10, 2014 by Silvan Haven

[They]

Sounds good.  Always nice to learn a little more about things.  

[25K Now!]

How do we make cheap Abettor ripoffs to take over the island.

[Keeper of Kraata]

Nuju and I also agreed there is a 'corrupting' element that works on 'good' guys, but only if there is already the seeds of Darkness.

[Timageness]

Ah, good. So my character won't die if he gets hit with Antidermis. Cool. Are the effects permanent for survivors though?

[Keeper of Kraata]

We don't know! In Canon it was dealt with by energized protodermis. I don't even know if plot juice energized protodermis exists, even in Mangaia. First time it appeared in Canon, I believe, was in the Bahrag's lair.

[25K Now!]

Just assume you'll be screwed over.

 

AKA be cautious.

[NorikSigma]

HA! Who said there were no good guys coming?

...

 

I'm screwed aren't I. ;__;

[25K Now!]

Yes

[Timageness]

You never know; a certain mercenary of Plantlife who enjoys difficult, usually one-sided battles might be making his way over there eventually...

[Keeper of Kraata]

HA! Who said there were no good guys coming?

...

 

I'm screwed aren't I. ;__;

Well, when Gondor calls for aid, what do you expect?

[Pohatu: Uniter of Stone]

Where do I go to read the posts of the Dasaka on the Mata Nui expedition? Are they in the Kentokou Archipelago thread still?

[Silvan Haven]

They moved to the Ga-wahi topic. Still a fair distance away from Mata Nui, but it shows that progress is being made.

[Pohatu: Uniter of Stone]

Thanks! Just got back up to speed on the expedition. I suppose that means they will make land in Ga-Koro.

[~Xemnas~]

So, uh, out of curiosity, who's in charge of the villages when both the Akiri and the Toa Maru are gone? Is this something that was ever discussed, or are there characters that were agreed upon to be head of the villages in case of the Akiri's absence? Part of the reason I'm asking is that I noticed Geardirector's character in Le-Wahi is heading off to see Kongu, and when she finds out that he's not there (as far as I know, he's still in Ta-Koro), she'll probably have to talk to Kongu's second-in-command. And I would like to know who that is.

[Voxumo]

That is a good question actually, one i wished i had an answer for.. I know some akiri players had set up a second in command, such as Matoro and nuparu I think... but not sure about the rest... I would imagine if no second command was named, it would go to the highest ranking personnel in the military force of that koro... but that is just my opinion, fairly certain NM has a better response

[Hitoshura]

Well in the canon(I don't care if this is canon or not) the Turaga had matoran right hands, similar to the second-in-command thing, so maybe the Akiri did that.

[Daniel the Finlander]

Um, does anyone want to hire a personal Vortixx bodyguard? He is kinda sitting like a duck in Le-koro at the moment, and I'm not sure what to do with him.. any ideas?

[They]

Hey, can the peeps fighting at the Citadel please stop posting until I can respond.  It's been a lot of stuff to catch up on, and I'm trying to get this cranked out as quickly as I can before I go respond to Joske's fantastic post in Kini.  However, I don't want to miss details.  If you keep posting it'll just become an edit-fest..  Thanks for understanding!

[Nuju Metru]

That is a good question actually, one i wished i had an answer for.. I know some akiri players had set up a second in command, such as Matoro and nuparu I think... but not sure about the rest... I would imagine if no second command was named, it would go to the highest ranking personnel in the military force of that koro... but that is just my opinion, fairly certain NM has a better response

 

The presence/status of seconds-in-command, and other such hierarchies, varies from Akiri to Akiri. The best way to figure out what's what underneath an Akiri power-wise is to PM the Akiri's player and ask.

[Timageness]

As Nato and I have stated before on the previous page, PC interaction sometimes has a tendency of being non-existent, and that's usually when players are left to their own devices to move their character's stories along. That being said, Nuju's Zaktan just so happened to release a horde of tree eating Entropy Beetles that are wrecking the jungles of Le-Wahi, and they're most definitely going to be moving towards the Koro you're currently in at some point unless they're stopped... Think your Vortixx is up for squashing some bugs?

[~Xemnas~]

@Nuju (and Voxumo by extension)- Okay, thanks for answering my question.

 

I've been even more tempted to start RPing again- maybe I'll have Verdi participate in whatever measure are taken against the Entropy Beetles.

Edited September 10, 2014 by Toa Xemnas of Crystal

[Void Emissary]

-The Return of the Forger-

 

My name is Sylus,

And I'm king of the whisperers.

And heedless to you,

High Lord Executioner.

 

-Void

[Mr. House]

For the sake of accuracy, could some Legacy players update its Wiki Page? The history section and goals in need of work, along with the membership.

 

And also, if Anyone wants to join the Brotherhood of Ak'rei'an, send me a PM. We have knights, and semi-intelligent Zombies!

[AuRon the champion]

With this discussion about antidermis, this raises the question...

 

In the case of Arden and Aeolus, both of them tend to be mostly neutral-aligned characters. While Arden is more lawful and more inherently good, Aeolus is much more of a character who could be described as evil. He follows his own ambitions and desires, but is lawful in the regard that he won't break laws or codes of honor to achieve his goal.

 

Since it's two spirits in one body, what would be the final result of the antidermis then?

[Keeper of Kraata]

Hmm... I don't suppose Ta-Koro has free healthcare, does it?

[Nato G]

Ta-Koro has fire, rock, and lots of smoking craters left by the Piraka. Not much else that I know of. 

[Nuju Metru]

With this discussion about antidermis, this raises the question...

 

In the case of Arden and Aeolus, both of them tend to be mostly neutral-aligned characters. While Arden is more lawful and more inherently good, Aeolus is much more of a character who could be described as evil. He follows his own ambitions and desires, but is lawful in the regard that he won't break laws or codes of honor to achieve his goal.

 

Since it's two spirits in one body, what would be the final result of the antidermis then?

 

There's only one way to find out.

[Keeper of Kraata]

"Disposable mook #174, reporting for duty!"

[Silvan Haven]

Hmm... I don't suppose Ta-Koro has free healthcare, does it?

 

Word of Snark has it as "If you can pay, great. If not, don't worry about it."

[NorikSigma]

I think that's the case for most of the villages, iirc.

 

Except Ko where Riaril will make you work and run errands to pay off the debts. At least for Greisk. Look where it's gotten him.

[Razgriz]

Is she still pulling that junk

man

Tarex remembers that

he don't forget that

[NorikSigma]

Just vent his frustration by attacking Ko Koro.

 

Just like Greisk is.

[25K Now!]

Down with the capitalists.

[Zox Tomana]

Hmm... I don't suppose Ta-Koro has free healthcare, does it?

According to a lot of posts a few weeks ago in the immediate aftermath of the Piraka attack: yes.