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[Ehksidian]

A Ta- or Su-Toa might be able to hitch a ride on a passing rock from underneath. Someone with a Miru or Kadin could fly across, and anyone suicidal enough to take on the Outsiders could feasibly take control of the outpost.

...

That would be the dumbest idea ever when you can just pay a few widgets.

It's not a ton of money, anyways. Just a bit of cash, that's all. no reason to throw yourself into DEATHLAND.

[Nato G]

Like I said, we have a contingency plan for that sort of eventuality. 

 

I won't spoil the surprise. 

[IcarusBen]

 

A Ta- or Su-Toa might be able to hitch a ride on a passing rock from underneath. Someone with a Miru or Kadin could fly across, and anyone suicidal enough to take on the Outsiders could feasibly take control of the outpost.

 

One versus twenty? I think you'd have better luck just paying the toll.

 

Not to mention that we have contingency plans for exactly this type of eventuality. 

 

That last one isn't exactly possible with just one average Toa. 

 

So... Let's say some motivated player gets a bunch of other players to team up and take out the Outsiders. There. Insta-win.

 

Of course, the Toa will have to be environmentally approriate, like Ko-, Po-, Su-, Ta- and Le-Toa. Possible Ga-Toa, Ba-Toa and Fe-Toa.

[Ehksidian]

 

 

A Ta- or Su-Toa might be able to hitch a ride on a passing rock from underneath. Someone with a Miru or Kadin could fly across, and anyone suicidal enough to take on the Outsiders could feasibly take control of the outpost.

 

One versus twenty? I think you'd have better luck just paying the toll.

 

Not to mention that we have contingency plans for exactly this type of eventuality. 

 

That last one isn't exactly possible with just one average Toa. 

 

So... Let's say some motivated player gets a bunch of other players to team up and take out the Outsiders. There. Insta-win.

 

Of course, the Toa will have to be environmentally approriate, like Ko-, Po-, Su-, Ta- and Le-Toa. Possible Ga-Toa, Ba-Toa and Fe-Toa.

 

That's more sensible than throwing one person at them

but still dumb when you can just pay a few widgets. you guys would really have to not want to spend any of your dolla dolla to risk your lives like that.

[Nato G]

You honestly think there are twenty free characters who no money and even less sense who would attack a base full of well-armed, experienced mercs in order to gain access to a freakin' cable car that only has a very small toll? 

 

That's a joke, right? 

[IcarusBen]

Hey, having your own fortress? That's a pretty good perk.

 

Plus, you don't need 20 characters. I'd say 4 to 3 odds are good enough. And again, it's not just the cable car. It's the fortress.

Edited December 18, 2014 by IcarusBen

[Nato G]

Yeah. There's a little problem with that plan of yours.

 

Said fortress is currently under the control of those well-armed, experienced mercs I mentioned earlier. 

[Hitoshura]

You honestly think there are twenty free characters who no money and even less sense who would attack a base full of well-armed, experienced mercs in order to gain access to a freakin' cable car that only has a very small toll? 

 

That's a joke, right?

 

Yo, I'm not even sure if you heard of this, but people will do anything for money. Including saving. And please chill. No need for a small discussion to heat up so quickly. You can save the heating up when you pay the toll to go to Ta.

[Ehksidian]

 

You honestly think there are twenty free characters who no money and even less sense who would attack a base full of well-armed, experienced mercs in order to gain access to a freakin' cable car that only has a very small toll? 

 

That's a joke, right?

Yo, I'm not even sure if you heard of this, but people will do anything for money. Including saving. And please chill. No need for a small discussion to heat up so quickly. You can save the heating up when you pay the toll to go to Ta.

 

People are silly. Then again...odder things have happened than someone trying to storm a fortress because fortresses are good things to own...

[Not Quite Dead]

Turf wars IC would be really fun.

 

Discussing it OOC in N&D, eh. Not so fun. Get a party together for a fight and come knocking.

[Constructelf]

Yo, I'm not even sure if you heard of this, but people will do anything for money. Including saving. And please chill. No need for a small discussion to heat up so quickly. You can save the heating up when you pay the toll to go to Ta.

... the pun...

 

Eh, once we decide on a rate, we'll see if it's worth storming the castle.

[IcarusBen]

Again, it's not really about the toll. It's more about the fact that it's a FORTRESS. 

[Constructelf]

Again, it's not really about the toll. It's more about the fact that it's a FORTRESS.

What's about the fact that it's a fortress?

 

Like, is it bad because it's a fortress? Will it attract invaders because it's a fortress?

[Timageness]

If Roman's referring to what I think he's referring to when he's talking about this so-called "contingency plan of sorts" against Echelon, you guys might just want to think twice about starting an assault on Obsidian Outpost.

Just saying.

Edited December 18, 2014 by timageness411

[Nato G]

I wouldn't call it a fortress, per se. The word fortress implies big impenetrable walls and trenches and cannons and all of that fun stuff. It's just an outpost. One tower, a few kind of meh walls, and a big open entryway without even a gate. Not something worth dying for, methinks. 

[25K Now!]

Back in my dad we walked from Ko to Ta! None of this fancy cable-car nonsense! You took the Fiery Path through Mt. Chimney then around to Fallarbor (which doesn't actually let you get to Lavaridge but whatever). Don't get me started on HM02. Or you could just row your way over!

 

Fun times eh, Onarax?

[Nato G]

Well, we don't have all of whatever the heck that is now. We just have the cable car.  

Edited December 18, 2014 by Roman Torchwick

[IcarusBen]

Not for long! Who's with me?!

 

*crickets.*

 

Uh... I mean... Uh... Outsiders, don't kill me, please...

[Nato G]

Glad to see you're finally recognising the futility of the situation. 

[Keeper of Kraata]

I think any issue boils down to you are telling people what to do. No matter what the game, that's never exactly a wise thing to do.

[shadow pridak money gang]

I think any issue boils down to you are telling people what to do. No matter what the game, that's never exactly a wise thing to do.

 

thanks for beating me to the punch 

 

-Tyler

[Nato G]

I wasn't trying to tell people what to do.

 

I was merely highlighting the fact that there is no possible way to use the cable car without going through The Outsiders sooner or later. We live there, you can't ignore us. I only brought it up in N&D so that everyone was aware of it, as it didn't seem to be common knowledge like I'd thought it was. 

Edited December 18, 2014 by Roman Torchwick

[25K Now!]

It's the attitude and perception man.

 

And people don't need to take the cable car.

[Eyru]

if I need to get from Ko to Ta I just do this funny little thing here

 

let's see where is it

 

oh here it is:

 

 

OOC Moving to Ta-Wahi.

[EmperorWhenua]

Roman, think of your little cablecar as a property on a Monopoly board. Yes, you own it, and sure, there's rent to pay if someone lands on the square, but unless you perk up and say "ok pay up now" the other player's just going to skedaddle on his next turn. They can choose to ignore or forget to pay up, so the responsibility to lord your land falls on you (go figure).

 

Go on and impose your little toll on the cablecar, but if there isn't an in-game reaction to someone trying to use the cablecar this is all a fairly pointless talk. Because that's all this is—talk, not action. Enforce your toll in-game, because it doesn't matter how much you publicize it here or parade it as fact, people will still weasel out, knowingly or not. 

 

Also, people should stop being so defensive about this minor in-game scene, because this is still just a game and it's silly to get riled up when nobody wanted to trod on anyone's feelings or creations. Please and thanks.

[Voxumo]

While on the topic of the cablecar.. I must ask something. Is it an actual gondola lift, or is it just the little 'hook' as seen in the mata-nui online game? 

[Ghosthands]

Keeping in mind that the toll is primarily intended to fund maintenance of the cable car, and the purchase of supplies for the twenty or so different characters who currently live in the outpost.  

 

People aren't going to see that the same way they'd see a Koro-imposed tax, you realise?

 

The cost of maintaining the cable-car (lubricating oil and the odd spare part) is insignificant next to the cost of keeping a garrison of twenty fed and supplied. That gives us the following situation:

 

Why is the toll in place? To maintain the mercs. Why are the mercs there? To impose the toll.

[Keeper of Kraata]

While on the topic of the cablecar.. I must ask something. Is it an actual gondola lift, or is it just the little 'hook' as seen in the mata-nui online game?

 

I initially thought it was still the hook, but it looks like it was upgraded.

[Toatapio Nuva]

Viima is back.

 

Really happy to bring this naive little guy back to the game.

 

(Also, can someone summarize the events of the Mangai Expedition? I was away for some time and the number of new posts looks daunting...)

Edited December 18, 2014 by Toatapio Nuva

[Nato G]

 

Keeping in mind that the toll is primarily intended to fund maintenance of the cable car, and the purchase of supplies for the twenty or so different characters who currently live in the outpost.  

 

People aren't going to see that the same way they'd see a Koro-imposed tax, you realise?

 

The cost of maintaining the cable-car (lubricating oil and the odd spare part) is insignificant next to the cost of keeping a garrison of twenty fed and supplied. That gives us the following situation:

 

Why is the toll in place? To maintain the mercs. Why are the mercs there? To impose the toll.

 

 

Well, we gotta live somewhere, and after the retcon mess got cleared up, that's where we got permission to base ourselves. 

[25K Now!]

BZPMoney.

[Nato G]

Go on and impose your little toll on the cablecar, but if there isn't an in-game reaction to someone trying to use the cablecar this is all a fairly pointless talk. Because that's all this is—talk, not action. Enforce your toll in-game, because it doesn't matter how much you publicize it here or parade it as fact, people will still weasel out, knowingly or not. 

 

Which would be great if people would give us a chance to react in-game. What caused this whole incident was a person ICing their character walking up to the cable car, getting in and beginning the crossing all in the course of one post, without once acknowledging the outpost. I PMed them, and it turns out they weren't aware of our presence there.

 

Which is why I brought it up in N&D to begin with - so that people would be aware. 

[Timageness]

Aren't we also there to make sure that it doesn't get destroyed again like last time?

[Razgriz]

pretty sure i could get away with paying nothing

[shadow pridak money gang]

welcome to mata nui where everything's made up and your organization probably isn't gonna squeeze a cent out of anyone who really doesn't want to pay it

 

-Tyler

[Geardirector]

Character introduction

 

Ageru Tamachan

Not much of a legacy

[Specter Knight]

Hm, my character in Onu-Koro is frozen now. Eh, I didn't really like him anyway. I just wonder what happened to the other guy who he was interacting with...

 

Still waiting for a reply. What is happening in Onu-Koro anyway?

[Nato G]

Aren't we also there to make sure that it doesn't get destroyed again like last time?

 

Well yeah, that too. We live there, after all. It won't be too good for us if someone tried to blow it up. Last I checked, we were also intent on keeping evil peoples in general from crossing over to Ta-Wahi, since if they start causing problems in Ta-Koro it would probably reflect poorly on us... 

[Palm]

Hey, the link in the Kentoku topic is broken! Who's the clan leader of the Hogo clan?

 

Nevermind, I just found out.

Edited December 18, 2014 by Palm

[Geardirector]

Hubert