BZPRPG News and Discussion

[Geardirector]

Sex = do you have the parts?

 

Gender = What do you feel/see/define yourself as?

[Constructelf]

I don't see the difference between gender and sex. What's the difference?

 

 

Sex = do you have the parts?

 

Gender = What do you feel/see/define yourself as?

What Gear said. For more information, see sex and gender.

[Snelly]

I don't see the difference between gender and sex. What's the difference?

 

Well kid, sex is what you're born as, gender is what you yourself perceive yourself as. Being a gender fluid I tend to feel like both, lean toward female more than male. The fact that my sex is male really has nothing to do with it. 

 

Also with all this debate about how male and females brains are really the same, and can do the same stuff. Only word I have for you is Skyra. :3 

 

I'm probably one of the few people that feel more comfortable with female characters than male, I'm just odd like that. =P

Edited December 15, 2014 by Skitty

[sunflower]

<-- very first character was female

 

<-- never had "eye-opening experience" regarding playing characters of the opposite sex

 

 

 

 

i feel so left out now

 

;~;

[Razgriz]

have yet to have an "eye opening experience" with sola

feelin cheated right now not gonna lie

[Shadowhawk]

I had a lot of thoughts about this but then I thought--

y'know what

my primary BZPRPG character is very much female, and proud of it
 
in real life i myself am very much male, and also proud of it

and so i understand that men and women are oft times a little different
(and hopefully always will be because that's part of the grand spice of life)
but not
 
really so very much different
 
and certainly one side of the coin is not somehow superior to the other

and from a mature writer's perspective they're all complex and intriguing and great fun to write as
 
but most of all it's their identity you gotta worry 'bout because identity trumps sex/gender/species/blah
 
but i already know that even if not everyone else does

so i guess ima just shut up and be happy with the way things are, riiiiight?

[sunflower]

have yet to have an "eye opening experience" with sola

 

feelin cheated right now not gonna lie

 

you and me both pal

 

had no idea this was a thing

[Light]

Both of y'all's eye opening experiences were roughly mine. The absolute lack of eye opening is what was eye opening. XD

[Razgriz]

yeah man

two posts

no new revelations beyond "I'm not sure if I got this character DOWN yet"

man i must be doing something wrong

[(Daedalus)]

I make up characters. I write them. Stuff happens.

 

I have found that for me, putting too much planning into a character doesn't produce satisfactory results. Take Trauer. I had a long back story planned for him, kind-of planned all kinds of stuff that was supposed to happen to him in the RPG, none of which ended up occurring. He ended up randomly becoming a disciple to some dude he barely knew (and he certainly doesn't understand much about or even totally agree with said dude's beliefs), and now he's down near the Vault staring at the Abettor, who recently turned Skorm's pelvis into mashed potatoes.

 

Faora, on the other hand, was created with the sole purpose of becoming an Outsider, and even then, the only stuff in her bio that so far has played much of an impact in my writing her is her half-blindness. And you know what? She's been a blast to write. I've certainly produced much better writing (I think so, anyway) with her than with the more-planned-out Trauer.

 

What does that have to do with the current discussion? I don't know. Maybe something like: I didn't really think very much about gender when I made my characters. It was pretty much, "Well, my first character was a male, so I'll make a female character next." Or something like that.

[Timageness]

Speaking as someone who spent more time around my mother and my sister growing up than my dad, I've never really had that experience while writing characters of the opposite sex either. If I ever did have a moment like that, it happened long before I started writing.

Briefly taking the conversation back towards the character idea in question that pretty much started this whole thing, the issue I had was about being able to stick to the original vision of the character, not about having to most likely change the sex of them to make them playable. Sometimes, I actually consider it more fun to play as Septima or Dravennica than Zenithex, Verulas (and I love his pessimism), or Taranis and Tenjin (though in their defense, they're still kind of new), and it's not just here either; most of the characters I've had the most fun with in every RPG I've played were, in fact, female, and I plan to introduce more of them as they come to me.

[Geardirector]

The problem, however, is that you still seem to consider changing the character's gender to interfere with the vision you have for them, when that really shouldn't be the case.

[Nato G]

I've never had much problem writing from the perspective of either gender, so when I started making characters for the RPG I tried to be pretty even-handed in terms of what sex they were.

 

Of my seventeen characters, ten are guys, and the other seven are girls. 

Edited December 16, 2014 by Roman Torchwick

[Keeper of Kraata]

I sometimes like to do an exercise where I reverse genders of my characters (in anything, not just RPGs) and see how I would be portraying them differently:

 

Casanuva: It's difficult, given Casanuva's nature, but doable. Lady!Casanuva would probably be slightly more successful in her pursuit of women, but be even more social, and less combat-focused, or at least more focused on her elemental powers.

 

Vakua: Given that Vakua is somewhat gender-neutral to begin with, not much would change. Only difference is, now you have a slender, mute, telepathic female rather than a male.

 

Kalyss: Far too close to being a jock for my comfort, though he might be a little less aggressive, but less overall impressive.

 

Skorm: Difficult to say. I would probably lean towards less brute-force tactics if Skorm was a lady.

 

Aelied: Admittedly, the 'wise old herb lady' archetype is pretty cool. I would probably her as a bit more humorous than I will Aelied.

 

Zueya: Wide-eyed nooblet toa-in-training. Not much changes, to be honest.

 

Cyrix: Would probably downplay the stealth aspect and play up the sniper aspect.

 

Denrika: might be less neurotic and more sleazy, given his position.

 

Fyura/Vayde: Fyura wouldn't change much, but would likely be less humorous overall, since we have enough snarking evil male skakdi in the RPG already. Vayde doesn't identify, being a Parakuka and all, but I think it currently leans toward male. Reminds me of a male anglerfish that way.

[(Daedalus)]

I've never had much problem writing from the perspective of either gender, so when I started making characters for the RPG I tried to be pretty even-handed in terms of what sex they were.

 

Of my seventeen characters, nine are guys, and the other seven are girls. 

 

I... I...

 

The maths...

[Razgriz]

My dudes would make pretty cute chicks and Kellin's already the best girl so yeah

[Nato G]

 

I've never had much problem writing from the perspective of either gender, so when I started making characters for the RPG I tried to be pretty even-handed in terms of what sex they were.

 

Of my seventeen characters, nine are guys, and the other seven are girls. 

 

I... I...

 

The maths...

 

 

Yeah, sorry, screwed up. It should be ten, not nine. I've fixed it now. I missed a name while I was going through my list of characters. 

[Keeper of Kraata]

Hey, one could have been gender-neutral!

[Mr. House]

I'll honestly admit, like Ghosthands, I didn't really have female characters until the Dasaka, at the least, for this period of the RPG. All in all, I will say I've preferred Male characters. But I do not have anything against female characters, I've had several over many RPGs in my time here. It is simply a personal taste. That being said, I have always tried to play those characters with respect and dignity. As normal, fleshed-out characters (Depending upon my own writing skills, mind you), not walking, talking stereotypes. I've always thought I could do better than that. That I could try to do something different from that, and become a far better, and well rounded writer that way.

Edited December 16, 2014 by Mr. House

[Not Quite Dead]

Casanuva: It's difficult, given Casanuva's nature, but doable. Lady!Casanuva would probably be slightly more successful in her pursuit of women,

 

 

 

FUND IT

[Banana Gunz]

I plan on making a new character in the future. I've been pretty unhappy playing simply as matoran. They're not totally great (especially considering they're my first characters) and I can see why people gravitate towards playing as powered beings.

 

And I do agree that while gender/sex is a huge part/effect on a person's character, it's not their defining feature and that anyone can be a three-dimmensional person/character regardless of who they've been born as. I don't know if I believe that men and women work the same personality-wise, as I've never been a woman and can't say from experience, but they deserve to both be treated equally and fairly. So, the dasaka gender system seems pretty fair to me.

Edited December 16, 2014 by Banana Gunz

[Ehksidian]

I plan on making a new character in the future. I've been pretty unhappy playing simply as matoran. They're not totally great (especially considering they're my first characters) and I can see why people gravitate towards playing as powered beings.

But matoran are good to play as

you can get battle crabs.

[Constructelf]

 

 

I plan on making a new character in the future. I've been pretty unhappy playing simply as matoran. They're not totally great (especially considering they're my first characters) and I can see why people gravitate towards playing as powered beings.

But matoran are good to play as

you can get battle crabs.

Toa, Turaga, Lesterin, Skakdi, and Vortixx can also get battle crabs.

[Banana Gunz]

I like crebs, but other than that, they're very limited. It is possible to make an interesting powerless character, but I'd rather have a stronger character who can make a bigger effect on the world much easier. They're just more fun in my eyes!

[Keeper of Kraata]

Fun fact: A LONG time ago (before the new forums, at least) when I played this Denrika and Kalyss were a pair of mercenaries: Denrika was a ta-matoran with a massive disc launcher (seriously, it was like a frigging ballista), and Kalyss was a Skakdi warrior alongside her. You can make matoran that stand up in battle.

Edited December 16, 2014 by Keeper of Kraata

[The UltimoScorp]

I dunno, I've got a potentially sociopathic Onu-Matoran weapons dealer in Ko. He's got all the power he needs. And probably then some.

 

Toa are super fun, but not nearly as interesting.

[Banana Gunz]

Fun fact: A LONG time ago (before the new forums, at least) when I played this Denrika and Kalyss were a pair of mercenaries: Denrika was a ta-matoran with a massive disc launcher (seriously, it was like a frigging ballista), and Kalyss was a Skakdi warrior alongside her. You can make matoran that stand up in battle.

 

... lol but that's when they have a ballistae and Skakdi warrior by your side. Unless your character is a Mazeka, they tend to be pretty bad to fight with. And really just having the extra power makes things more enjoyable and gives the character more choices/abilities.

[Ehksidian]

Toa, Turaga, Lesterin, Skakdi, and Vortixx can also get battle crabs.

I was trying to make people make more Matoran

we need more "normal" people after all. I guess.

[Razgriz]

 

Casanuva: It's difficult, given Casanuva's nature, but doable. Lady!Casanuva would probably be slightly more successful in her pursuit of women,

 

 

 

FUND IT

 

is this rpg ready for purest love?

[shadow pridak money gang]

Tali Alihera Relo

 

TA-LI RE-LO

 

clap clap stomp stomp stomp

 

-Tyler

[Nato G]

I have one Matoran character. She got her hand cut off.

 

Then she got a new hand and cool powers thanks to antidermis, and wound up getting magnetic force-choked by Echelon. 

 

Fun Times. 

[NorikSigma]

So I went to sleep and I missed good stuff.

 

My first female char was eye opening in the sense that it wasn't anything special. I just rolled with her the way I did with my other chars. That lack of anything special was the unique realisation in itself.

 

So.

Done.

 

Unfortunately, I don't play my Dasaka characters a lot, but that's because I just can't roleplay into Kentoku easily, at least, the way I do for Mata Nui.

[Let's Henshin!]

Vortixx master race. 

[Not Quite Dead]

Well, since this is story time. I'll just share that all my characters start life as shameless expys or cliches. It's what you do with them IC that counts.

[The UltimoScorp]

Man, I haven't been keeping up with n&d but oh my gosh, you guys make me proud to be part of this fandom. Go us, man. Round of applause.

 

 

No, seriously, though, we have a feminist moderator? That's awesome.

[Endless Sea (Alaki Nuva)]

Y'know what we really need?  Turaga.  You can never have too many old people.

[Hitoshura]

I find it a little funny how you all are comparing your female characters and all but professional writers have to do both(and maybe more) genders for their characters. I know that's on a different level but still.

[Palm]

I don't mean to sound stupid, but I don't know what the point you're making actually is.

[Razgriz]

Sounds to me like in the grand scheme of things it ain't that big a deal


kinda agree

[Snelly]

I find it a little funny how you all are comparing your female characters and all but professional writers have to do both(and maybe more) genders for their characters. I know that's on a different level but still.

 

Care to elaborate?