Keeper of Kraata Posted December 2, 2014 Share Posted December 2, 2014 Sil(o?), sorry about my absence from the Ga-Wahi topic; finishing coursework for college, and I only have so much time and focus I can direct elsewhere, so it's normally limited to posting in here. Plus, Vakua's posts in particular now require a significant amount of forethought and planning. 1 The times, they are a-changing... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silo Posted December 2, 2014 Share Posted December 2, 2014 (edited) That's absolutely fine...the main reason I posted with Mura was if anyone wanted to interact with him while he waited.Back to the expedition, I'm not sure if we actually have any "solid element" toa, but the idea about the solidified lava was a good one. I think we're mostly matoran and other powerless races.Also, has anything happened with the rebellion in Po yet? I mean, has Lloyd posted again?On another subject, I've been meaning to ask for a while: What types of metal can Fe-Toa create? I ask this cos I noticed someone stating that a certain Fe-Toa character could create non-ferrous metals, and wondered if they could basically create any metal they liked, not just iron. Edited December 2, 2014 by Sil . Kathok Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geardirector Posted December 2, 2014 Share Posted December 2, 2014 Taken from the BS01 Page on Iron: Creating any type of metal or metallic ProtodermisControlling any type of metal or metallic ProtodermisAbsorbing any type of metal or metallic Protodermis BZPRPG Profiles Nuparu-Ferron-Mar-Zelvin-Wiremu-Farzan-Mako-Krex-Tamachan-??? Akiri Nuparu Posts: 1. 2. ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keeper of Kraata Posted December 2, 2014 Share Posted December 2, 2014 All in all, no worse than toa of Water controlling different liquids, and not water in alternate forms (such as vapor, or ice). 1 The times, they are a-changing... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
25K Now! Posted December 2, 2014 Share Posted December 2, 2014 When Lloyd posts, it's pretty noticeable. 1 http://vimeo.com/198967785 BZPRPG Profiles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The UltimoScorp Posted December 2, 2014 Share Posted December 2, 2014 I'm playing a Toa of water there. I know there's a fire Toa as we'll, but beyond that, I've no idea. BZPRPG Profiles The Unofficial Guide to TBRPG Combat! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvan Haven Posted December 2, 2014 Share Posted December 2, 2014 Toa of Iron just sounds better than Toa of Metal and seems more elemental. Its pretty much the only reason they are called that. 3 "I serve the weak. I serve the helpless. I am their sword and their shield. If you want to strike at them, you must go through me, and I am not so easily moved." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Quite Dead Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 Can't quote because mobile, but like 30-40 pages back I asked the same thing Silo. The answer was that nonferrous metals were fine. But that you have to keep in mind what metals would be present with our tech level. And the experience said character has with more exotic metals. ...but close to it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. House Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 Could a Fe-Toa control Mercury? I occasionally return to BZP for a nostalgic trip back. Hit me up on discord if you need anything. BZPRPG Characters that I will possibly revive, Mons-Shajs-Tarotrix-Aryll Vudigg-Jorruk Yokin-Senavysh Angavur Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The UltimoScorp Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 I would think so? Though they might have to know it was metal, first. Also, that would be so cool. BZPRPG Profiles The Unofficial Guide to TBRPG Combat! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvan Haven Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 I don't see why they would not be able to control it. Its a kind of metal just like any other. "I serve the weak. I serve the helpless. I am their sword and their shield. If you want to strike at them, you must go through me, and I am not so easily moved." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Visaru Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 Well, since to my knowledge mercury has not even been mentioned in this RPG, I doubt the issue will aver arise. -------------- Tarrok | Korzaa | Verak | Kirik -------------- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvan Haven Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 The Egyptians had mercury. "I serve the weak. I serve the helpless. I am their sword and their shield. If you want to strike at them, you must go through me, and I am not so easily moved." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snelly Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 (edited) Well mercury ain't on Mata Nui so no need to even talk about it. And Toa of Metal sounds like a rock band. Edited December 3, 2014 by Skitty My Bzprpg Profiles, Ghosts of Bara Magna Skyra | Hakari | Oceanna | Taleen | Arisaka | Zanakra | Kaminari | Drakkar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toa grimlock Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 (edited) EDIT: Nevermind. Being I play a Fe-Toa myself I would think since mercury is liquid at room temperature they could change it from liquid to solid. But what do I know. Edited December 3, 2014 by toa grimlock "When life gives you lemons.... Make orange soda!" "You're immature for age..." BZPRPG character profiles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nato G Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 Welcome up to the stage THE TOA OF (DEATH) METAL!!! 2 Embers - A Bionicle Saga - Chapters/Review Class Is Out - A Farewell To Corpus Rahkshi - Chapters/Review BZPRPG Characters - Minnorak, Kain, T'harrak, Savis, Vazaria, Lash BZPRPG Mercenary Group - The Outsiders - Description - History - Base Ghosts Of Bara Magna - Ash Tribe - Precipere - Kehla, Somok, Skrall, Gayle, Avinus, Zha'ar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvan Haven Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 Well mercury ain't on Mata Nui so no need to even talk about it. And Toa of Metal sounds like a rock band. How do you know that? I'm honestly not sure why there would be none on the island. "I serve the weak. I serve the helpless. I am their sword and their shield. If you want to strike at them, you must go through me, and I am not so easily moved." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
25K Now! Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 Sounds pretty metal. 1 http://vimeo.com/198967785 BZPRPG Profiles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timageness Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 Septima calls the bass guitar. Epics: Hero Factory: ContagionRPG Characters:BZPRPG CharactersRPG History:The Asylum, Bionifight Infinite, Year 60,000, Matoran und Panzer, HF RPG 2.0, Wasteland, Corpus Rahkshi, SkyriseGM Résumé:Matoran und Panzer (Formerly Appointed Co-GM), Corpus Rahkshi (Former Substitute Co-GM) Feel free to shoot a PM my way if you're waiting for me to respond to something and I've been taking a while to do so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keeper of Kraata Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 The art I have of Casanuva was drawn by a guy calling himself Arkhad, Toa of Metal. Swell guy, liked his style. The times, they are a-changing... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IcarusBen Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 Guys, let us please un-derail this topic. We don't want off-topic strikes. As for mercury, I don't see why we wouldn't have mercury on Mata Nui. The problem is the physiological effects when exposed to mercury. Is it poisonous to MU beings, or not? I'll assume it is, but it's still the staff's decision. LEGO Republic:The ValkyrieThe "Christmas Brick" My BZPRPG Profiles Now a proud member of The Kanohi Force Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Endless Sea (Alaki Nuva) Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 The Expanded Multiverse classifies Mercury as an elemental type; essentially, whereas Toa of Iron control solid protodermic metal, Toa of Mercury control liquid protodermic metal. It is not for us to decide the fate of angels. Dominus Temporis, if you're out there, hit me up through one of my contacts. I've been hoping to get back in touch for a long time now. (Don't worry, I'm not gonna beg you to bring back MLWTB or something. ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timageness Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 Really? I was under the impression that there was only sixteen elements (counting Shadow). Epics: Hero Factory: ContagionRPG Characters:BZPRPG CharactersRPG History:The Asylum, Bionifight Infinite, Year 60,000, Matoran und Panzer, HF RPG 2.0, Wasteland, Corpus Rahkshi, SkyriseGM Résumé:Matoran und Panzer (Formerly Appointed Co-GM), Corpus Rahkshi (Former Substitute Co-GM) Feel free to shoot a PM my way if you're waiting for me to respond to something and I've been taking a while to do so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Endless Sea (Alaki Nuva) Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 The Expanded Multiverse has an absolute ton of elements- double the canon amount or something. And that's not even getting into stuff like combination elements and minor powers and stuff. It is not for us to decide the fate of angels. Dominus Temporis, if you're out there, hit me up through one of my contacts. I've been hoping to get back in touch for a long time now. (Don't worry, I'm not gonna beg you to bring back MLWTB or something. ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvan Haven Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 We don't use the Extended Universe stuff here. "I serve the weak. I serve the helpless. I am their sword and their shield. If you want to strike at them, you must go through me, and I am not so easily moved." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Endless Sea (Alaki Nuva) Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 I'm aware. Just letting people know that other people in the forums have used the term mercury for Bionicle stuff before. It is not for us to decide the fate of angels. Dominus Temporis, if you're out there, hit me up through one of my contacts. I've been hoping to get back in touch for a long time now. (Don't worry, I'm not gonna beg you to bring back MLWTB or something. ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keeper of Kraata Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 Mercury should exist, if cinnabar exists as an ore. Since the element was extracted as early as Roman times, I would think that Onu-Koro would have extraction furnaces. 3 The times, they are a-changing... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvan Haven Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 And Ta-koro. 4 "I serve the weak. I serve the helpless. I am their sword and their shield. If you want to strike at them, you must go through me, and I am not so easily moved." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nato G Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 I think the technology level of the island is sufficient for more exotic metals - like mercury - to be in existence. Embers - A Bionicle Saga - Chapters/Review Class Is Out - A Farewell To Corpus Rahkshi - Chapters/Review BZPRPG Characters - Minnorak, Kain, T'harrak, Savis, Vazaria, Lash BZPRPG Mercenary Group - The Outsiders - Description - History - Base Ghosts Of Bara Magna - Ash Tribe - Precipere - Kehla, Somok, Skrall, Gayle, Avinus, Zha'ar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keeper of Kraata Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 It would probably be referred to as quicksilver, rather than mercury, though. The times, they are a-changing... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eyru Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 Being I play a Fe-Toa myself I would think since mercury is liquid at room temperature they could change it from liquid to solid. But what do I know. Just a quick note: a Fe-Toa would not be able to change mercury from a liquid to a solid because that would require changing its temperature, which is strictly the domain of Ta- and Ko-Toa. Just like how Ga-Toa can't change water into ice: they control the substance, not its temperature. BRPG Forum Rules • BZPRPG Starter Topic • Q&A Compendium • SK:A Profiles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghosthands Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 Mercury should exist, if cinnabar exists as an ore. This is the main point. Can cinnabar be found on Mata Nui? I don't know, but that decision lies firmly in the hands of the staff. My gut feeling would be to say 'no', mainly because giving Fe-Toa the ability to create liquid metals would add one more to a power-set that is already formidable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krayzikk Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 I concur with Ghost. There's no basis (that I recall) for controlling more than one state of a given element, and more than a little against. Toa of Iron are already quite powerful, as well. Additionally, even if such metal exists on the island there's nothing to say it's common. All in all, if Ghost agrees, I would say that adding new and more exotic metals to their repertoire wouldn't be encouraged. And that the manipulation of liquid metal probably isn't something they can do. On this eve, the thirtieth anniversary of that first colony, many are left to wonder; is the world fast approaching a breaking point? Breaking Point: An OTC Mecha RPG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
25K Now! Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 First you let in mercury, then the next thing you know there'll be Toa of Iron throwing around copernicium, giving everyone radiation sickness without anyone noticing because it might be a gas at room temperature. Metals. Not even once. 1 http://vimeo.com/198967785 BZPRPG Profiles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keeper of Kraata Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 (edited) Well there goes my idea of a mad hatter fe-turaga slinging around quicksilver. Also, while we don't really have a precedent for multiple states of matter, I believe it IS necessary to mention that Plasma technically encapsulates an entire state. Edit: I do think there should be a decision between 'doesn't exist' and 'can't control it'. Since it's kinda silly that an entire mineral with a host of actual uses is banned for something some people can't do with it. Edited December 3, 2014 by Keeper of Kraata 1 The times, they are a-changing... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghosthands Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 (edited) As of this post, the invasion of Ko-Koro is over. We are now timeskipping forward a couple of days, to 'sync up' with the rest of the island. I will soon provide a post detailing what has happened during that time. Until then, please do not post as characters in Ko-Koro. The rest of the Wahi is still open for RPing, but consider the Koro itself frozen until the timeskip post is up. (Edit: hehe...Ko-Koro...frozen...) Edited December 3, 2014 by Ghosthands 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keeper of Kraata Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 Woot woot! And just in time for my coursework to be (almost) finished! The times, they are a-changing... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silo Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 (edited) Only just got time to post, so...What can a Fa-Toa do that a Fe-Toa can't, then?From what I understand, Fa-Toa can:Manipulate ferrous metals.Magnetize ferrous metals.And Fe-Toa can:Create ferrous and non-ferrous metals.Manipulate ferrous and non-ferrous metals.Absorb ferrous and non-ferrous metals.That seems like a few more powers... Edited December 3, 2014 by Sil . Kathok Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ehksidian Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 Only just got time to post, so...What can a Fa-Toa do that a Fe-Toa can't, then?From what I understand, Fa-Toa can:Manipulate ferrous metals.Magnetize ferrous metals.And Fe-Toa can:Create ferrous and non-ferrous metals.Manipulate ferrous and non-ferrous metals.Absorb ferrous and non-ferrous metals.That seems like a few more powers...Fa-Toa can also manipulate magnetic fields in general. While a Fe-Toa could, say, make iron or metals in general, they couldn't alter the magnetic properties of said metal. A Fa-Toa could, however, do so. They cannot alter the structure of metal, but they can magnetize it, or even magnetize non-ferrous objects (Given enough power, that is; it's not exactly easy to do that.) They can also simply create magnetic fields with no metallic source as well.If you get creative enough (Not in the "how far can i stretch the feasibility of what magnetism can do", or "Let me exploit physics concepts my character couldn't possibly understand), you can do a lot of things a Fe-Toa can't.Like, say, stick to walls using magnetism (A lot of ele power would be needed to hold so much mas, though), or stealing money from someone without them noticing by just drawing it out (Again, magnetizing a not-wholly-ferrous anything isn't the easiest thing in the world to do), or...not even magnetizing a non-ferrous material, but just putting a magnetic field near it that could function like it was a magnetized substance could work...not sure if that would be wholly okay with the staff, but it's possible I guess?But yeah, Fe-Toa do have a lot of abilities, but it only lies within the manipulation of metals which they would have to know about, whereas Fa-Toa have control over magnetic fields in general, not control over magnetic substances, other than altering said substances using magnetism, like moving some iron by sticking a magnetic field near it. Steam name: Ehksidian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Quite Dead Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 To add to that, if a Fe-Toa can "shoot" a piece of metal like an arrow, it's still against the force of gravity. If that makes sense. Where as a Fa-Toa can utilize magnetism, which is waaaay stronger. So the same arrow is more like a high powered rifle. The real money is in a Fa/Fe-Toa duo. That would be fun. Fa and Vo could do some crazy stuff as well. ...but close to it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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